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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 1 @ 11:35 AM ET

For those worried about who would play where if we signed Stamkos...


If we did sign Stamkos & there wasn't the chemistry there with him & Eichel together (with whichever one of them on the wing)...

Pittsburgh is showing how u can have your best 3 forwards split up on 3 different lines & they all get their icetime

Crosby, Malkin & Kessel all on different lines, all got over 18min of icetime
And their 4th line all got over 10min of icetime each as well

so there's multiple ways to make it work
No need to worry about that aspect of signing him IMO
LakesideBlues
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Chemical Valley, ON
Joined: 09.01.2010

May 1 @ 11:36 AM ET
I think Chychrun and Juolevi will be gone by #8. I'm putting our draft at 40% trade the pick for Risto's partner. 60% Nylander being there for us.

And, if we want to shut Toronto fans up, sign Stamkos. If we really want to be considered a legit contender with the big guys in this league, it's time for us to step up and take what we want.

- sskkoo1


We WILL NOT go silently into the night, AND we will have the brothers Nylander come puck drop next year. Book it.
You can have Stammer & his 10 milly contract, we won't need him.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 1 @ 11:41 AM ET
If that's the case, Buffalo is out of the running for it. The only "established player" the Oilers would want in that scenario is Ristolainen, and we both know that's not going to happen.
- buffalofan19

Pretty much my thoughts exactly

Risto isn't happening

Not interested in Bogos contract

Pysyk isn't at that level yet
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 1 @ 11:48 AM ET
"Agreed that Matthews is "certainly not Eichel". Eichel isn't a bad player, but we've already got a few of his caliber, and he's certainly not the kinda guy you're hoping for after finishing dead last.

Though, even if Matthews only tops out as an Eichel-like player, at least we didn't have to watch two historically bad rosters, built entirely for the purpose of getting someone else, to get him.

That would suck.
- Feeling Glucky?"


From Garths blog.... I guess the former mayor passed down some good stuff to some of the residents.

- gordong


I am not sure if Matthews will be better than Eichel. Selfishly, I hope not. And Eichel is definitely better than any other forward in the Leafs system. He is right about one thing: going through two historically bad seasons only to get the second best player in a targeted draft will always sting.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 1 @ 11:58 AM ET
I am not sure if Matthews will be better than Eichel. Selfishly, I hope not. And Eichel is definitely better than any other forward in the Leafs system. He is right about one thing: going through two historically bad seasons only to get the second best player in a targeted draft will always sting.
- buffalofan19


It's a good rivalry thing to talk about, well have to wait and see how it plays out....... But didn't Mathews put up nu,ber similar if not better numbers at each stage?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
Pretty much my thoughts exactly

Risto isn't happening

Not interested in Bogos contract

Pysyk isn't at that level yet

- HB77


That's fair, he would be a low end top 4 guy next year or at least be solid on the bottom pairing. I'm just not sure how much higher end than that you will get to only move back 4 spots. The deal may just not work, which is okay too.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
F the Laughs...

Anyways after looking at the hit I think Orpik ends up with a 1 game suspension
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 1 @ 12:12 PM ET
Am I the only one who's actually excited for this?

Toronto vs. Buffalo actually will mean something. We will probably down the road face each other in the playoffs


Eichel, O'Reilly, Reinhart, Risto, Kane
Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Reilly.

This will become an actual rivalry again
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 1 @ 12:16 PM ET
Am I the only one who's actually excited for this?

Toronto vs. Buffalo actually will mean something. We will probably down the road face each other in the playoffs


Eichel, O'Reilly, Reinhart, Risto, Kane
Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Reilly.

This will become an actual rivalry again

- sbroads24



Sounds fun.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 1 @ 12:18 PM ET
Sounds fun.
- burn



GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 1 @ 12:19 PM ET
Nylander Nylander Nylander Nylander

Nylander Vs Nylander
Matthews Vs jack

Sabres vs leafs rivalry back
c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

May 1 @ 12:20 PM ET
I know I'm beating a dead horse, but doesn't anybody find it interesting that Toronto won the lottery. Buffalo didn't win the lottery for two straight years. They only won the lottery twice in 46 years. Toronto gets it on the first chance. Brendan Shanahan is the president of the leafs and he also worked under Bettman as NHL's Vice President of hockey and business development, then NHL's senior Vice President. Coincidence?
Khymlev13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Jimbo83 is a steaming turd tha, NY
Joined: 07.22.2006

May 1 @ 12:20 PM ET
Seems like Stamkos, Vesey, and top 4 D are the pie in the sky Sabres wish list for this offseason.

Right now if you told me we could get Tkachuk, Caggiula and Fowler, I'd gladly take it. Granted this doesn't come free. So if Girgs/Ennis, Pysyk, picks and a prospect is the cost, I'm in. I'd even throw in Matt Ellis to sweeten the deal.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 1 @ 12:20 PM ET


That's fair, he would be a low end top 4 guy next year or at least be solid on the bottom pairing. I'm just not sure how much higher end than that you will get to only move back 4 spots. The deal may just not work, which is okay too.

- RhinoFan



You've gotta think of it from their point of view though

Would u move back 4 spots for a solid 3rd pair, maybe decent 2nd pair guy?
Those type defensemen aren't hard to find
They're way better off staying in that spot & taking Tkachuck or the defenseman of their choice
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 1 @ 12:22 PM ET
Seems like Stamkos, Vesey, and top 4 D are the pie in the sky Sabres wish list for this offseason.

Right now if you told me we could get Tkachuk, Caggiula and Fowler, I'd gladly take it. Granted this doesn't come free. So if Girgs/Ennis, Pysyk, picks and a prospect is the cost, I'm in. I'd even throw in Matt Ellis to sweeten the deal.

- Khymlev13


Let's not ruin a good rebuild by trading away our best assets...
Khymlev13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Jimbo83 is a steaming turd tha, NY
Joined: 07.22.2006

May 1 @ 12:22 PM ET
I know I'm beating a dead horse, but doesn't anybody find it interesting that Toronto won the lottery. Buffalo didn't win the lottery for two straight years. They only won the lottery twice in 46 years. Toronto gets it on the first chance. Brendan Shanahan is the president of the leafs and he also worked under Bettman as NHL's Vice President of hockey and business development, then NHL's senior Vice President. Coincidence?
- c1067


It's not rigged. It completely sucks but it's not rigged. Be more annoyed at how the Canadian media glorified Tor for the same thing they bashed the Sabres for.
Khymlev13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Jimbo83 is a steaming turd tha, NY
Joined: 07.22.2006

May 1 @ 12:23 PM ET


Let's not ruin a good rebuild by trading away our best assets...

- RhinoFan


Ya gotta give to get!
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
Seems like Stamkos, Vesey, and top 4 D are the pie in the sky Sabres wish list for this offseason.

Right now if you told me we could get Tkachuk, Caggiula and Fowler, I'd gladly take it. Granted this doesn't come free. So if Girgs/Ennis, Pysyk, picks and a prospect is the cost, I'm in. I'd even throw in Matt Ellis to sweeten the deal.

- Khymlev13


I do believe one of Stamkos or Vesey will be here.

Change the top 4 D to a top 2 D and you get the pie in the sky.

I think its pretty plausible a top 4 D will be added.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 1 @ 12:24 PM ET
Seems like Stamkos, Vesey, and top 4 D are the pie in the sky Sabres wish list for this offseason.

Right now if you told me we could get Tkachuk, Caggiula and Fowler, I'd gladly take it. Granted this doesn't come free. So if Girgs/Ennis, Pysyk, picks and a prospect is the cost, I'm in. I'd even throw in Matt Ellis to sweeten the deal.

- Khymlev13



If Stamkos & Eichel didn't fit on a line together for whatever reason...

_____ -Eichel- Reinhart
_____ -STAMKOS- Ennis
Kane -O'Reilly- _____
Foligno-Larsson-Gionta


Hell yes I'm alright with that
Think of all the guys we have coming up that could potentially fill in those blanks

Fasching, Bailey, Baptiste, Rodrigues, Hurley, Cornel, Olofsson, Possler, Carrier, Catenacci, Karabacek, Malone, Estephan...

All those guys rated as "top9" or better talents
So we only need a couple of them to work out

And that's keeping Foligno & Larsson on the 4th line & not accounting for Girgensons anywhere

And what if we signed Vesey &/or Caggiula?


YEAH...
I'm REALLY liking what I see here quite a bit
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 1 @ 12:25 PM ET


That's fair, he would be a low end top 4 guy next year or at least be solid on the bottom pairing. I'm just not sure how much higher end than that you will get to only move back 4 spots. The deal may just not work, which is okay too.

- RhinoFan

I'm not even sure you get player of pysyks quality to move back just 4 spots
I'm sure we'd have to add in this scenario.

But still, I think the focus would be on someone at a higher level, and if it was the 4th straight across, that still probably makes more sense for edm


Now that we're out of the top 3, I think chiarelli will move hard to entice the islanders on that pick for hamonic
Khymlev13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Jimbo83 is a steaming turd tha, NY
Joined: 07.22.2006

May 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
If Stamkos & Eichel didn't fit on a line together for whatever reason...

_____ -Eichel- Reinhart
_____ -STAMKOS- Ennis
Kane -O'Reilly- _____
Foligno-Larsson-Gionta


Hell yes I'm alright with that
Think of all the guys we have coming up that could potentially fill in those blanks

Fasching, Bailey, Baptiste, Rodrigues, Hurley, Cornel, Olofsson, Possler, Carrier, Catenacci, Karabacek, Malone, Estephan...

All those guys rated as "top9" or better talents
So we only need a couple of them to work out

And that's keeping Foligno & Larsson on the 4th line & not accounting for Girgensons anywhere

And what if we signed Vesey &/or Caggiula?


YEAH...
I'm REALLY liking what I see here quite a bit

- jdfitz77


I'm with you on this. I want any of stamkos/Vesey/Caggiula. All three by some miracle. And I like the 3 line idea if we get #91. But even if stamkos and Vesey go elsewhere there are still plenty of things we can do this offseason. As for the Leafs, huge win with Matthews but their D is very weak and they have zero goaltending. I think they'll likely be bottom 8 next year.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 1 @ 12:30 PM ET
I'm just hoping my boy Laine does not brainwash the leafs into taken him first it's a hard one I don't want Matthews to be miserable with the jets ..

I'm excited For the leafs
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 1 @ 12:31 PM ET
Seems like Stamkos, Vesey, and top 4 D are the pie in the sky Sabres wish list for this offseason.

Right now if you told me we could get Tkachuk, Caggiula and Fowler, I'd gladly take it. Granted this doesn't come free. So if Girgs/Ennis, Pysyk, picks and a prospect is the cost, I'm in. I'd even throw in Matt Ellis to sweeten the deal.

- Khymlev13




my hangover needed that laugh
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 1 @ 12:33 PM ET
If Stamkos & Eichel didn't fit on a line together for whatever reason...

_____ -Eichel- Reinhart
_____ -STAMKOS- Ennis
Kane -O'Reilly- _____
Foligno-Larsson-Gionta


Hell yes I'm alright with that
Think of all the guys we have coming up that could potentially fill in those blanks

Fasching, Bailey, Baptiste, Rodrigues, Hurley, Cornel, Olofsson, Possler, Carrier, Catenacci, Karabacek, Malone, Estephan...

All those guys rated as "top9" or better talents
So we only need a couple of them to work out

And that's keeping Foligno & Larsson on the 4th line & not accounting for Girgensons anywhere

And what if we signed Vesey &/or Caggiula?


YEAH...
I'm REALLY liking what I see here quite a bit

- jdfitz77

with what you outlined, you really need a speed player on each line to make the other teams d cringe whenever any of those 3 lines are out there


it really would be fun to watch
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 1 @ 12:45 PM ET
I know I'm beating a dead horse, but doesn't anybody find it interesting that Toronto won the lottery. Buffalo didn't win the lottery for two straight years. They only won the lottery twice in 46 years. Toronto gets it on the first chance. Brendan Shanahan is the president of the leafs and he also worked under Bettman as NHL's Vice President of hockey and business development, then NHL's senior Vice President. Coincidence?
- c1067

They did have the best chance though. It sucks for you guys to lose 2 straight. He'll even one. But they were the favourites to win, and they did. If they were 8th favourite I'd be on your side. But they were favourites. Although I said last year Shanny would threaten Betman with all the stuff he knew to get McDavid. Didn't happen.
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