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The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 2 @ 3:17 PM ET
Depends on the asking but yeah, i'd be interested.
- tincup


Maybe if they ate some salary and gave us their first too.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

May 2 @ 3:18 PM ET
What's a proven link? WHY WOULD YOU ASK FOR ABSOLUTE FACTS ON A RUMOR SITE?? Am I the only one that finds that hilarious???

IT WAS RUMORED that he asked for 6 x 6 and the leafs said bye ... I didn't make that up and I can only go off of the rumors that are online.

Reimer has never played more the 40 games on horrible teams with horrible goaltending

Reimer has been hurt pretty much every year



Which he "angrily" denied. You see what I did there? I backed up a point I made with a source .

http://www.hockeyfeed.com...emands-after-being-traded

Is anyone on here calling Reimer an elite starter? No, but in our current situation he could be the best answer to our goaltending situation. With a looming expansion draft it doesn't make sense for us to waste assets on a starter since we would then put ourselves in a position to either lose said starter or lose our potential goalie of the future in Gillies.

You argue that we should resign Ramo and that Reimer is oft injured. Ramo blew out his damn knee, has missed significant time every season with us, probably won't be ready at the start of this season and there is no guarantee that he will ever be able to return to form. I like Ramo, but that is way to big of a risk to hinge a team's entire year on.
DinoRondelly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.03.2011

May 2 @ 3:23 PM ET


Nice to see you making friends again, Rhonda!

- The-O-G


Hey Suzy, I see you finally got rid of the bedazzled flames logo ... can't say I surprised at your new one seems to suit your personality ... Don't tell me you are on the Reimer bandwagon yourself?
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

May 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
I don't see the Flames being contenders next couple years so I would think a 2-3 year deal with Reimer would be the way forward.


DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

May 2 @ 3:27 PM ET
Hey Suzy, I see you finally got rid of the bedazzled flames logo ... can't say I surprised at your new one seems to suit your personality ... Don't tell me you are on the Reimer bandwagon yourself?
- DinoRondelly


Pumpkin! How have you been?
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 2 @ 3:29 PM ET
Depends on the asking but yeah, i'd be interested.
- tincup

I dont think they will be asking much. Not if they are serious about moving him.
DinoRondelly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.03.2011

May 2 @ 3:30 PM ET
Which he "angrily" denied. You see what I did there? I backed up a point I made with a source .

http://www.hockeyfeed.com...emands-after-being-traded

Is anyone on here calling Reimer an elite starter? No, but in our current situation he could be the best answer to our goaltending situation. With a looming expansion draft it doesn't make sense for us to waste assets on a starter since we would then put ourselves in a position to either lose said starter or lose our potential goalie of the future in Gillies.

You argue that we should resign Ramo and that Reimer is oft injured. Ramo blew out his damn knee, has missed significant time every season with us, probably won't be ready at the start of this season and there is no guarantee that he will ever be able to return to form. I like Ramo, but that is way to big of a risk to hinge a team's entire year on.

- Saskabush


Now hold on, I only suggested Ramo because him and Reimer and virtually a wash and Ramo's contract demands aren't going to be anywhere near Reimers.

So if Reimer happily denied the report does that make a difference? Do you think some reporter (Damien Cox) just made up the 6 x 6 thing? How many times has his potential contract demands been brought up on this site as well as on TV during games? The fact is given his age, injury history and track record this is Reimer's home run chance. If he signs a short term deal and has a bad year with expansion coming he is basically out of the league.

My argument is there are better options for a stop gap goalie for the next year or so then Reimer ... This is all assuming Gillies turns into a starter ..."

My vote pay the piper now get Matt Murray .. even if you have to use Gillies as a trade chip to the Pens to convince them to part with Murray by giving them a potential Fleury replacement in Gillies.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 2 @ 3:30 PM ET
Maybe if they ate some salary and gave us their first too.
- The-O-G

Flower is very much worth his current contract. I don't think the flames can be to picky if the opportunity arises.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 2 @ 3:31 PM ET
Hey Suzy, I see you finally got rid of the bedazzled flames logo ... can't say I surprised at your new one seems to suit your personality ... Don't tell me you are on the Reimer bandwagon yourself?
- DinoRondelly


Don't get upset at me because my avatar makes you feel something in your little wee wee....come to think of it you should thank me, I am sure it's been a while!!!

As far as Reimer is concerned it all depends on the money & term. IF they did want him I would rather them pay him 1 @ 6 or 2 @ 5 than go beyond a 2 year deal at less money. His track record isn't stellar...but I think he might have more in the tank than everyone currently thinks.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 2 @ 3:33 PM ET
Flower is very much worth his current contract. I don't think the flames can be to picky if the opportunity arises.
- Zac_O


Well he's getting old and he's conked now...I just don't really think the fit is there.

I think the Flames need a guy for max 2 years anyway, for when Gillies is ready.
DinoRondelly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.03.2011

May 2 @ 3:38 PM ET
Don't get upset at me because my avatar makes you feel something in your little wee wee....come to think of it you should thank me, I am sure it's been a while!!!

As far as Reimer is concerned it all depends on the money & term. IF they did want him I would rather them pay him 1 @ 6 or 2 @ 5 than go beyond a 2 year deal at less money. His track record isn't stellar...but I think he might have more in the tank than everyone currently thinks.

- The-O-G


I seem to be the only one who believes what he see's, I think his potential is well behind him. 2 years max doesn't hamper I suppose, this is of course all based on Gillies being a sure thing. I'll just be happy I don't sign his cheques ..

Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 2 @ 3:39 PM ET
Well he's getting old and he's conked now...I just don't really think the fit is there.

I think the Flames need a guy for max 2 years anyway, for when Gillies is ready.

- The-O-G

I understand. But Flower has been playing better several years in a row now. This was his best year in his career. Some goalies peak at 30-35 and hes signed till hes 35. Seems perfect IMO. But I wouldn't blame flames fans if they didn't want him.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

May 2 @ 3:39 PM ET
Reimer may be a good option in terms of not giving up assets to get him.

But buyer beware, he is not and never will be a star, just a solid goalie who gives up the odd stinker .

Super attitude, good team guy, very positive, works hard and competes hard.

But if you believe you need a star in net to win, he is not your guy.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 2 @ 3:42 PM ET
I seem to be the only one who believes what he see's, I think his potential is well behind him. 2 years max doesn't hamper I suppose, this is of course all based on Gillies being a sure thing. I'll just be happy I don't sign his cheques ..
- DinoRondelly


I can see your hesitation...but he's never really been in a stable situation either. Despite this, his numbers have ALWAYS been good. Can get be a #1 and play 65 games a year....I don't really know, but we have seen what Ramo is and I think there still might be some uncovered greatness in Reimer.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 2 @ 3:45 PM ET
I understand. But Flower has been playing better several years in a row now. This was his best year in his career. Some goalies peak at 30-35 and hes signed till hes 35. Seems perfect IMO. But I wouldn't blame flames fans if they didn't want him.
- Zac_O


Yeah...I hear ya...it's not the worst idea. Again, it all depends on the trade. I'd rather sign a guy like Reimer for 2 years if they have to give up an asset for Fluery. It's a buyers market as far as goalies are concerned right now.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

May 2 @ 3:49 PM ET
Now hold on, I only suggested Ramo because him and Reimer and virtually a wash and Ramo's contract demands aren't going to be anywhere near Reimers.

So if Reimer happily denied the report does that make a difference? Do you think some reporter (Damien Cox) just made up the 6 x 6 thing? How many times has his potential contract demands been brought up on this site as well as on TV during games? The fact is given his age, injury history and track record this is Reimer's home run chance. If he signs a short term deal and has a bad year with expansion coming he is basically out of the league.

My argument is there are better options for a stop gap goalie for the next year or so then Reimer ... This is all assuming Gillies turns into a starter ..."

My vote pay the piper now get Matt Murray .. even if you have to use Gillies as a trade chip to the Pens to convince them to part with Murray by giving them a potential Fleury replacement in Gillies.

- DinoRondelly


Yes, do you not know what the media in Toronto is like?

Your argument? You haven't suggested any other options for a "stop gap", all you have done is female dog about arguably the best FA option available to us that would cost us nothing but cash.

Matt Murray is the same age as Gillies. Who knows, if Gillies hadn't been injured at the start of the year we could have seen him up with us playing at the same level as Murray.

I just don't see why the Pens would deal Murray now. MAF is not an untradeable asset so if they think Murray's the real deal it would make much more sense for them to keep him rather than take a flyer on an unknown prospect.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 2 @ 3:50 PM ET
Flower is very much worth his current contract. I don't think the flames can be to picky if the opportunity arises.
- Zac_O

I think Fleury could be a decent option for next 3 years while we wait for Gillies to become our starter. He's got a year in the AHL (at least) & a year as back up. So the 3 years of Fleury can be handled. Return would be an issue. If you want the cap space of $5.75 mill moved, you need to take something from us. Prefer it's Wideman or maybe Stajan (2 years left at 3.1mill) & then I can see us adding a 2nd & a prospect. Murray looks like the real deal.
zipfel
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 04.24.2016

May 2 @ 3:56 PM ET
I don't mind Reimer and I like the upside he could have with the flames. He did well with the sharks ( 6 wins in 8 games with 3 shutouts ) and had a ton of quality starts for the Leafs. I like that it would only cost $$$ and no picks, however, I think Reimer is looking for more money and term than the Flames are interested/willing to give.

I have heard rumor that Treliving is working hard to see if he can get Bishop. Getting an extra 1st round pick from Dallas would really add to the trading chips that could help get us the goalie we need.

GO DALLAS!!

DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

May 2 @ 4:09 PM ET
I don't mind Reimer and I like the upside he could have with the flames. He did well with the sharks ( 6 wins in 8 games with 3 shutouts ) and had a ton of quality starts for the Leafs. I like that it would only cost $$$ and no picks, however, I think Reimer is looking for more money and term than the Flames are interested/willing to give.

I have heard rumor that Treliving is working hard to see if he can get Bishop. Getting an extra 1st round pick from Dallas would really add to the trading chips that could help get us the goalie we need.

GO DALLAS!!

- zipfel



Words I never thought I would hear myself say. Feels weird.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

May 2 @ 4:27 PM ET
How do you expect to have a mature conversation with anyone on these forums if you are going to spew garbage, not only to every response that is in opposition of your thoughts, but also to the creator of the blog. Get a grip bud and grow up.
- Codes1087

Not much point in trying. He likes to hide behind "hockey talk" his actual purpose. That being his pleasure of antagonizing people and trying to get them to throw a fit of rage, towards him. I'm pretty sure with every response he strokes himself juuuuust a little bit harder. You won't find any intelligent hockey talk here, just a child looking for attention.

Que Rhonda's come back in 3...2...1...
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

May 2 @ 4:33 PM ET
What's a proven link? WHY WOULD YOU ASK FOR ABSOLUTE FACTS ON A RUMOR SITE?? Am I the only one that finds that hilarious???

IT WAS RUMORED that he asked for 6 x 6 and the leafs said bye ... I didn't make that up and I can only go off of the rumors that are online.

Reimer has never played more the 40 games on horrible teams with horrible goaltending

Reimer has been hurt pretty much every year

- DinoRondelly

"Rumours" still get posted and on legitimate sites. I think he's asking for you to show something from a legitimate source of his rumoured asking price.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

May 2 @ 4:36 PM ET
Now hold on, I only suggested Ramo because him and Reimer and virtually a wash and Ramo's contract demands aren't going to be anywhere near Reimers.

So if Reimer happily denied the report does that make a difference? Do you think some reporter (Damien Cox) just made up the 6 x 6 thing? How many times has his potential contract demands been brought up on this site as well as on TV during games? The fact is given his age, injury history and track record this is Reimer's home run chance. If he signs a short term deal and has a bad year with expansion coming he is basically out of the league.

My argument is there are better options for a stop gap goalie for the next year or so then Reimer ... This is all assuming Gillies turns into a starter ..."

My vote pay the piper now get Matt Murray .. even if you have to use Gillies as a trade chip to the Pens to convince them to part with Murray by giving them a potential Fleury replacement in Gillies.

- DinoRondelly


As far as I'm concerned this is NOT the year to go out and sign a tendy, stop gap or not. I think the writing is on the wall with expansion and with that a list of protected assets. Each team with two "legitimate" starters will need to protect the one they deem their true #1. It allows us to negotiate from a position of relative strength so to speak. I may be in the minority here but re-sign Ramo have he and Ortio ride out the 2016-17 Season and work on a deal for (Anderson, Fluery, et al). If Reimer is willing to sign low and short term, why not but I doubt he'll ask for 6x6...

Our minor league guys get another year to mature and see what we truly have and we deal for a #1 next season and see what plays out.

Oh and no way the Pens trade Murray...
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 2 @ 4:55 PM ET
Now hold on, I only suggested Ramo because him and Reimer and virtually a wash and Ramo's contract demands aren't going to be anywhere near Reimers.

So if Reimer happily denied the report does that make a difference? Do you think some reporter (Damien Cox) just made up the 6 x 6 thing? How many times has his potential contract demands been brought up on this site as well as on TV during games? The fact is given his age, injury history and track record this is Reimer's home run chance. If he signs a short term deal and has a bad year with expansion coming he is basically out of the league.

My argument is there are better options for a stop gap goalie for the next year or so then Reimer ... This is all assuming Gillies turns into a starter ..."

My vote pay the piper now get Matt Murray .. even if you have to use Gillies as a trade chip to the Pens to convince them to part with Murray by giving them a potential Fleury replacement in Gillies.

- DinoRondelly

The price on Murray is far more than his worth. I'd want Sam Bennett + for Murray.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 2 @ 4:58 PM ET
I think Fleury could be a decent option for next 3 years while we wait for Gillies to become our starter. He's got a year in the AHL (at least) & a year as back up. So the 3 years of Fleury can be handled. Return would be an issue. If you want the cap space of $5.75 mill moved, you need to take something from us. Prefer it's Wideman or maybe Stajan (2 years left at 3.1mill) & then I can see us adding a 2nd & a prospect. Murray looks like the real deal.
- Kevin R

Murray is the slight sign of light in a dark tunnel that is the dark future for the pens after Crosby retires.
I don't think the pens will get crazy on how much they want for Fleury. They might lose him to expansion draft anyways. So they might take a deal they normally wouldn't.
DinoRondelly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.03.2011

May 2 @ 6:07 PM ET
The price on Murray is far more than his worth. I'd want Sam Bennett + for Murray.
- Zac_O


Would the #6 be an option for Pitts? I highly doubt Bennett is going anywhere anytime soon.

I even think the 6th would be an over payment, Gillies and maybe a 2nd. Give the Pens a couple more years to ride out Fleury.
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