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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 3 @ 10:56 AM ET
I actually like the way the books and the series have diverged. It keeps both interesting.
- BiggE



jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 3 @ 10:56 AM ET
I actually like the way the books and the series have diverged. It keeps both interesting.
- BiggE


Nonsense. When I watch a movie/TV series of an adaptation, I expect them to be 100% in-sync, word-for-word, scene for scene, no matter how much sense it would make time-wise for it to happen.

I mean, they could have done Book 2 in eight, maybe 9 seasons, and done it just like it was in the book.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 3 @ 10:57 AM ET
Ghost owes it all to the Roids
- KINGKENZO


He needs a refund.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 3 @ 10:58 AM ET
GoTBuzz?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 3 @ 10:58 AM ET
Nonsense. When I watch a movie/TV series of an adaptation, I expect them to be 100% in-sync, word-for-word, scene for scene, no matter how much sense it would make time-wise for it to happen.

I mean, they could have done Book 2 in eight, maybe 9 seasons, and done it just like it was in the book.

- jmatchett383


I'm waiting for the 62 part film adaptation of Jordan's Wheel of Time series.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 3 @ 10:58 AM ET
I actually like the way the books and the series have diverged. It keeps both interesting.
- BiggE



Agreed..
Its sort of like two different stories , in some ways, with the same characters.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

May 3 @ 10:58 AM ET
Ghost owes it all to the Roids
- KINGKENZO



Those were not the Roids he was looking for.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 3 @ 10:59 AM ET
Nonsense. When I watch a movie/TV series of an adaptation, I expect them to be 100% in-sync, word-for-word, scene for scene, no matter how much sense it would make time-wise for it to happen.

I mean, they could have done Book 2 in eight, maybe 9 seasons, and done it just like it was in the book.

- jmatchett383



It doesnt have to be verbatim but there have been some pretty substantial changes between show and book.

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 3 @ 11:00 AM ET
Especially doing it from the back end.
- MBFlyerfan


/giggity
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

May 3 @ 11:00 AM ET
Ghost owes it all to the Roids
- KINGKENZO

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 3 @ 11:01 AM ET
It doesnt have to be verbatim but there have been some pretty substantial changes between show and book.
- opeth_pa


Yep. Which is wjhy, in the opening credits, it says, "Based on 'A Song of Ice and Fire' by George R R Martin'." They're based on them, not a verbatim adaptation.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 3 @ 11:02 AM ET

I'm waiting for the 62 part film adaptation of Jordan's Wheel of Time series.

- BiggE


I think they could do the Dark Tower in about 17,000 hours or so.

Seriously, a 28-part Silmarilion would be interesting.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 3 @ 11:04 AM ET
Agreed..
Its sort of like two different stories , in some ways, with the same characters.

- opeth_pa


I always thought Gilly was hotter in the books
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 3 @ 11:04 AM ET
GoTBuzz?
- dragonoffrost

GoTMilk?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
Anyone watch WWE Payback over the weekend and see Enzo get knocked out..
It's easy to forget that even with "sports entertainment" being scripted injuries are a huge part of it.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

May 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
Anyone watch WWE Payback over the weekend and see Enzo get knocked out..
It's easy to forget that even with "sports entertainment" being scripted injuries are a huge part of it.

- opeth_pa

And you can't teach that
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

May 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
Ghost is 23, so they're both "old" for rookies. McDavid being 19 is impressive, but even though the team as a whole stinks, Edmonton has a boatload of talent in the lineup for him to play with.
- wolfhounds



to me its not about the age but where they played. Ghost came from college (aka amateur) and played 7 pro games his rookie year and handful of AHL games before being called up. Panarin played yrs of pro hockey in Russia. to me that is different.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 3 @ 11:28 AM ET
And you can't teach that
- KINGKENZO


Only 1 word to describe that SAWFT.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 3 @ 11:29 AM ET
Re: Ghost and the Calder

I believe that Ghost deserves to win the award. First off, it's much harder to break into the league as a rookie on D than it is to break in as a forward. Secondly, he had a major impact on his team and was as instrumental as anyone in getting the Flyers into the playoffs. OTOH, while McD played very well, the Oilers were still one of the worst teams in the league and while Panarin had a great season, he is 24, has much more pro experience than the other finalists and was blessed to play on a very good team with Patrick Kane as a linemate.

When you factor everything in, and look at it all objectively, I believe the Calder should go to Ghost.

- BiggE


all things considered, i agree. (frank) those other guys. but he won't win. because flyers.

twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 3 @ 11:29 AM ET
lol okay this one was even better
- YuenglingJagr


Thanks, I make the funny once in awhile.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 3 @ 11:29 AM ET
to me its not about the age but where they played. Ghost came from college (aka amateur) and played 7 pro games his rookie year and handful of AHL games before being called up. Panarin played yrs of pro hockey in Russia. to me that is different.
- nastyflyergirl


so the whole rookie of the year thing...that is made up as an award because it is the person who plays the best as a rookie, which is notable because they "aren't supposed to be" as good as a veteran or someone with some experience. Similar to what you're saying where Panarin learned from playing pro hockey in Russia and is more seasoned, which makes his competence at the NHL level less outstanding, if you will.

Wouldn't that same logic sort of be applied in reverse for McDavid? Not only did he play in junior hockey last year, but he also missed time and was less seasoned and accustomed to life in the NHL. He was the best rookie when he was playing, but the whole theory of being a rookie should suggest that less games makes what he did even harder and more impressive.


To use an IRL analogy...if two nurses start their job at the same time and one goes on maternity leave halfway through the year. If they are on the same level once she returns from leave, isn't it more impressive?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

May 3 @ 11:30 AM ET
to me its not about the age but where they played. Ghost came from college (aka amateur) and played 7 pro games his rookie year and handful of AHL games before being called up. Panarin played yrs of pro hockey in Russia. to me that is different.
- nastyflyergirl

Meh, I don't hold that against him. As a whole, the AHL is a better league than the K. If Panarin was a NA kid that played hrs and spent a few years in the A, people would be raving about him.
He accomplished what he did on his own merits and he deserves the trophy
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 3 @ 11:32 AM ET

I'm waiting for the 62 part film adaptation of Jordan's Wheel of Time series.

- BiggE


I was just reminiscing over the weekend with an acquaintance of mine on the weiss/Hickman Dragonlance saga, that would be a nerds dream in tv/movie form.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

May 3 @ 11:32 AM ET
Only 1 word to describe that SAWFT.
- opeth_pa

I don't watch NXT, my boy will tell me what's going on, but when they debuted 3-4 weeks ago. BEST. ENTRANCE. EVER......they killed it and the arena was bananas
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 3 @ 11:33 AM ET
With everyone talking about upgrading the wings with skill would David Perron interest anyone? he played well in Anaheim after the trade and is 27. Can play both LW and RW.

Also with Anaheim looking to make some changes with another game 7 loss I wonder if Jakob Silfverberg would be available. Could something like Laughton and Read. Silfverberg is 6'1'', plays both LW and RW, kills penalties.

If Caggulia does sig with Philadelphia does that make someone like Laughton available to try and move and reshape the roster as it seems Caggulia could slide into a 3rd line role?
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