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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 4 @ 12:53 PM ET
Demers is another one too, has all the right fancy stats. Maybe Schenn as well. Bet Campbell gets interest too on a short term deal if he goes to UFA.
- Sabresfan-365



Campbell is 37 and will be in the 1 year deal range from here on out.

Schenn is a stay at home and not a very good one really.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 4 @ 12:55 PM ET
Campbell is 37 and will be in the 1 year deal range from here on out.

Schenn is a stay at home and not a very good one really.

- dadeadhead


I think he'll get 6 or close to it but cant see it for more than 4 years.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 12:55 PM ET
Than these two? yea absolutely but not if the stay at home guy is an actual top pairing stay at home guy. Yandle to me only really works for this team if you can get Risto to tone down the offensive and become far less aggressive because having two of those on your top pair could wind up being disastrous unless your scoring like the Stars did this year.
- Sabresfan-365

I don't think it's 100% necessary that the D man we bring in absolutely has to be Risto's partner. I think we just really need another guy that can drive some production at even strength and the PP. Yandle does.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 4 @ 12:55 PM ET
Hell yes I will take the softest player ever they never win or improve never has it happened
- GERBE!!!75PTS



Murray is way to smart to draft a softy like him
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 4 @ 12:55 PM ET
I agree Yandle is the best, but I don't see him as a major FA prize like Suter was. I think it will be a small number of teams trying to get him.

He's obviously going to get good money, I just don't see a team having to make him a top 20 paid defenseman

- sbroads24



There's always one and honestly hope it isn't Buffalo.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 4 @ 12:57 PM ET
Tyson Jost or michael Mcloed could be big time steals imo
- MCGUIZZY


Jost is going late top ten would not shock me if he was our pick at 8
Gms are not going to make the same mistake they did with benn

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 12:57 PM ET
There's always one and honestly hope it isn't Buffalo.
- dadeadhead

I don't want him for 6 to 7 years. 3-4 absolutely.

Frankly he's better than Bogosian, and getting Gorges off the books makes it easier to fit
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 4 @ 12:59 PM ET
I don't want him for 6 to 7 years. 3-4 absolutely.

Frankly he's better than Bogosian, and getting Gorges off the books makes it easier to fit

- sbroads24



If it were a deal like Green then yes. Anything more than 3 years and no thanks.

Learn from Moulson.

Only guy on the market potentially worth anything more than 3 years is Stamkos IMO.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 4 @ 12:59 PM ET
I don't think it's 100% necessary that the D man we bring in absolutely has to be Risto's partner. I think we just really need another guy that can drive some production at even strength and the PP. Yandle does.
- sbroads24



Agree to disagree then. I think its got to be a top pairing guy and it has to be someone who's good at taking the puck back and moving it out of the zone as quickly as possible. Won't show up on the boxscore but definitely need that kind of guy to go up against other top lines, especially in the playoffs. We could use a guy who drives production at even strength too but i would place it as a lower priority.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 4 @ 1:00 PM ET
If it were a deal like Green then yes. Anything more than 3 years and no thanks.

Learn from Moulson.

Only guy on the market potentially worth anything more than 3 years is Stamkos IMO.

- dadeadhead


Id give Demers a long ish deal...as in more than 3 years not like a max deal or anything like that
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 4 @ 1:03 PM ET
Id give Demers a long ish deal...as in more than 3 years not like a max deal or anything like that
- Sabresfan-365



He's a ok player but not a player I'd give more than 3 years to.

And Stamkos IMO would be optimal to be in a 5 yr deal but we all know that isn't happening.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 1:04 PM ET
Agree to disagree then. I think its got to be a top pairing guy and it has to be someone who's good at taking the puck back and moving it out of the zone as quickly as possible. Won't show up on the boxscore but definitely need that kind of guy to go up against other top lines, especially in the playoffs. We could use a guy who drives production at even strength too but i would place it as a lower priority.
- Sabresfan-365

Wouldn't you call Hjalmarsson a top pairing guy? He doesn't always play with Keith.

Muzzin doesn't always play with Doughty, Shattenkirk doesn't play with Peitrangelo.

I think having 2 guys that can be effective on two different pairs is better than having a top pair.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 4 @ 1:05 PM ET
Jost is going late top ten would not shock me if he was our pick at 8
Gms are not going to make the same mistake they did with benn

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Depends how long he wants to stay in college. GM's gotta be smart about taking college bound players early. They can burn you later on. if hes a one and done id be ok with taking him at 8 potentially
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 4 @ 1:05 PM ET
Wouldn't you call Hjalmarsson a top pairing guy? He doesn't always play with Keith.

Muzzin doesn't always play with Doughty, Shattenkirk doesn't play with Peitrangelo.

I think having 2 guys that can be effective on two different pairs is better than having a top pair.

- sbroads24


Yea fair enough i see what you're saying. Might actually be better if it helps spread the ice time around a bit so that nobodys playing an insane amount.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 1:08 PM ET
Yea fair enough i see what you're saying. Might actually be better if it helps spread the ice time around a bit so that nobodys playing an insane amount.
- Sabresfan-365

Don't get me wrong, if you are able to land that prototypical partner for Risto, go for it. I just think Yandle is good enough to seriously consider. I think we can all agree he'd be our 2nd best D man by a decent margin
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 4 @ 1:10 PM ET
Don't get me wrong, if you are able to land that prototypical partner for Risto, go for it. I just think Yandle is good enough to seriously consider. I think we can all agree he'd be our 2nd best D man by a decent margin
- sbroads24



Agreed, I wonder what our chances are there though. I imagine the bruins will be after him too.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 4 @ 1:11 PM ET
Depends how long he wants to stay in college. GM's gotta be smart about taking college bound players early. They can burn you later on. if hes a one and done id be ok with taking him at 8 potentially
- MCGUIZZY


I would be fine drafting him who knows he pull a ROR and make the team his rookie year .. Who knows what the cards are for him in college I would just hate myself if we lost out on a benn type player
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

May 4 @ 1:13 PM ET
Don't get me wrong, if you are able to land that prototypical partner for Risto, go for it. I just think Yandle is good enough to seriously consider. I think we can all agree he'd be our 2nd best D man by a decent margin
- sbroads24


What are the pairs in your mind then?

I'm not sure which side these guys play, but I'd think it would setup as:

Gorges/McCabe-Ristolainen
Bogosian-Yandle
Gorges/McCabe-Pysyk

I'm with you though in thinking they'd be in good shape with splitting up to make 2 much better lines.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 4 @ 1:20 PM ET
I would be fine drafting him who knows he pull a ROR and make the team his rookie year .. Who knows what the cards are for him in college I would just hate myself if we lost out on a benn type player
- GERBE!!!75PTS



I dont see Jost as a Benn type player. Not really comparable but i like him alot
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
What are the pairs in your mind then?

I'm not sure which side these guys play, but I'd think it would setup as:

Gorges/McCabe-Ristolainen
Bogosian-Yandle
Gorges/McCabe-Pysyk

I'm with you though in thinking they'd be in good shape with splitting up to make 2 much better lines.

- stashu

IMO

McCabe/Risto
Bogo/Yandle
Pysyk/Gorges/Nelson/Franson

Can't rule out Guhle making an impression in camp either.

Bogo and Risto probably get the most even strength time. Yandle gets a majority of PP time, offensive zone starts
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 4 @ 1:22 PM ET
I would be fine drafting him who knows he pull a ROR and make the team his rookie year .. Who knows what the cards are for him in college I would just hate myself if we lost out on a benn type player
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Your comparisons are always top of line and a bit outlandish.

Pat Kane, Jamie Been etc etc. These players are few and far between.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
I dont see Jost as a Benn type player. Not really comparable but i like him alot
- MCGUIZZY


I'm saying more of the lines a hidden gem like benn was .. Gms won't make the same mistake twice
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
Campbell is 37 and will be in the 1 year deal range from here on out.

Schenn is a stay at home and not a very good one really.

- dadeadhead


I like Schenn as a 5-6 guy.

Better than Gorges or Franson.
Trade Both and hold salary on both to up value.
Get more 3rd round picks.
Sign Schenn.
Sign Yandle

Risto - Yandle
Bogo - McCabe
Pysyk - Schenn

GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
Your comparisons are always top of line and a bit outlandish.

Pat Kane, Jamie Been etc etc. These players are few and far between.

- ImThatGuy


I was not doing a comparisons .. Thanks move on
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
I like Schenn as a 5-6 guy.

Better than Gorges or Franson.
Trade Both and hold salary on both to up value.
Get more 3rd round picks.
Sign Schenn.
Sign Yandle

Risto - Yandle
Bogo - McCabe
Pysyk - Schenn

- ImThatGuy

I'd rather have Franson than Schenn to be honest. Both are slow as (frank), Franson is better offensively
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