Not gona happen. TB offerd 8.5 per Stamkos said no thanks.

Why would he sign in Toronto for less when he could have stayed in income tax free Tampa for more.
- ImThatGuy

Right. Probably would make the exact same in endorsements in Tampa vs. Toronto

Right. Probably would make the exact same in endorsements in Tampa vs. Toronto
- SameOld

Sure - would probably make the same endorsements playing for Columbus too. Give yourself a shake.

What the hell has either Harrington or Marancin done to warrant any optimism whatsoever?
- Atomic Wedgie

Hero charts bro

Hero charts bro
- sbroads24

(frank)ing heroes are the worst....

Hero charts bro
- sbroads24

Neither is on next year's team. Lamoriello has already said - at least 50% of the team will be different in 2016-17. There better stuff on the Marlies.

Neither is on next year's team. Lamoriello has already said - at least 50% of the team will be different in 2016-17. There better stuff on the Marlies.
- winsix

Nah, they don't limit shots like Marincin.

Limit shots=Good. End of story. No point discussing any further.

Josh Manson=Elite

I like advanced stats but holy hell some people just go overboard

Nah, they don't limit shots like Marincin.

Limit shots=Good. End of story. No point discussing any further.

Josh Manson=Elite

I like advanced stats but holy hell some people just go overboard
- sbroads24

It's a Leafs fan defence mechanism - latch on to one aspect of a Leafs player's game he does well, and fall in love with him.

Jay McClement was good at faceoffs, so he was awesome.

Leo Komarov speaks five languages - he must be fantastic!

Has there been talk or speculation about Stamkos taking a shorter deal? Sign for a small, 3 year deal for example, to stay in Tampa and try to win a cup with the core they have now while waiting for some of the youth to develop in Toronto and then jump ship? Everything I've read debates does Stamkos go to Toronto for 7 years X dollars or stay in Tampa for 8 years and X dollars. Just throwing that idea out there since Tampa is currently in a better position to win but it also leaves the door open for Stamkos to be a Leaf if he so desires in his career.

It's a Leafs fan defence mechanism - latch on to one aspect of a Leafs player's game he does well, and fall in love with him.

Jay McClement was good at faceoffs, so he was awesome.

Leo Komarov speaks five languages - he must be fantastic!
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm talking about Tanner. The guy that claimed Cody Franson was a borderline "Star" defenseman

I'm talking about Tanner. The guy that claimed Cody Franson was a borderline "Star" defenseman
- sbroads24

Tanner is a Leafs fan.

A huge one, actually.

He thinks Gardiner is one of the best defencemen in the league, and he has fancy-schmancy stats to back up his argument.

Right. Probably would make the exact same in endorsements in Tampa vs. Toronto
- SameOld

DOES. NOT. MATTER.

You are going to tell me if Team X offers 10.5 MM a year and Toronto offers 8

or 73.5MM to 56MM he is going to take that?

HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Hotstove: Should The Toronto Maple Leafs Still Pursue Steven Stamkos?
- ToddCordellVAN

Aboslutely. Can never have too much center depth and I think Nylander could move to the wing. The Leafs could start to quickly turn this rebuild around adding a bonafided 1st line player.

DOES. NOT. MATTER.

You are going to tell me if Team X offers 10.5 MM a year and Toronto offers 8

or 73.5MM to 56MM he is going to take that?
- ImThatGuy

Speaking on behalf of Leafs Nation, we are employing the endorsement argument strictly in defence of the Florida taxes argument.

The endorsement argument is not meant to be used as an attack weapon. It's a defence mechanism, like a shield or a condom.

I don't get why anyone would think Stamkos would be interested in going from a media irrelevant perennial playoff team to a media swamped bottom feeder at the very beginning of a massive rebuild, perhaps the biggest rebuild since the first lockout in the early 2000s.

There is little to attract a free agent in the prime years of his career to join a rebuilding bottom feeder. Stamkos could walk into the front office of 29 other teams and sign a max term contract, except Tampa.

Tanner is a Leafs fan.

A huge one, actually.

He thinks Gardiner is one of the best defencemen in the league, and he has fancy-schmancy stats to back up his argument.
- Atomic Wedgie

I know he is. He's entitled to his opinion but my lord this stuff gets old.

Tanner is a Leafs fan.

A huge one, actually.

He thinks Gardiner is one of the best defencemen in the league, and he has fancy-schmancy stats to back up his argument.
- Atomic Wedgie

He also thinks all NHL players have the same shooting percentage, NHL gms don't need to know anything about hockey, and that he's a writer

DOES. NOT. MATTER.

You are going to tell me if Team X offers 10.5 MM a year and Toronto offers 8

or 73.5MM to 56MM he is going to take that?
- ImThatGuy

Did not say that. I said it is possible that he will not necessarily take the highest dollar offer. When you are fortunate enough to make enough $ - where you want to play, and other factors count. Pronger did not want to stay in Edmonton for any amount.

Speaking on behalf of Leafs Nation, we are employing the endorsement argument strictly in defence of the Florida taxes argument.

The endorsement argument is not meant to be used as an attack weapon. It's a defence mechanism, like a shield or a condom.
- Atomic Wedgie

I will never understand why more players don't go play in Florid. You live in Florida, zero state income tax.

I don't get why anyone would think Stamkos would be interested in going from a media irrelevant perennial playoff team to a media swamped bottom feeder at the very beginning of a massive rebuild, perhaps the biggest rebuild since the first lockout in the early 2000s.

There is little to attract a free agent in the prime years of his career to join a rebuilding bottom feeder. Stamkos could walk into the front office of 29 other teams and sign a max term contract, except Tampa.
- dan_77

Unless you ask him. Maybe he would rather play for a lunatic coach like Roy instead of Babcock. Maybe he would like to be an assistant captain on Colorado. Bottom feeder eh? Like the scum, cheating crap eating Nordiques that finished DEAD LAST OVERALL three straight years (on purpose) and picked up Sundin, Nolan and Lindross (first overall picks pre lottery). You should know about bottom feeders.

I will never understand why more players don't go play in Florid. You live in Florida, zero state income tax.
- ImThatGuy

Lots of people don't want to live in Florida - just check out real estate prices. The zero state taxes come with a price. - they have to bribe people to stay there.

Uh, YES!

Gotta find a trade for Lupul.

Lots of people don't want to live in Florida - just check out real estate prices. The zero state taxes come with a price. - they have to bribe people to stay there.
- winsix

Real estate prices dictate the desire to live? How about Florida has the 3rd most people living there and is one of the 10 fastest growing populations in the US.

I will never understand why more players don't go play in Florid. You live in Florida, zero state income tax.
- ImThatGuy

Nashville...

Real estate prices dictate the desire to live? How about Florida has the 3rd most people living there and is one of the 10 fastest growing populations in the US.
- Kucherovski

But all those people are moving down there to die...

jk

I don't get why anyone would think Stamkos would be interested in going from a media irrelevant perennial playoff team to a media swamped bottom feeder at the very beginning of a massive rebuild, perhaps the biggest rebuild since the first lockout in the early 2000s.

There is little to attract a free agent in the prime years of his career to join a rebuilding bottom feeder. Stamkos could walk into the front office of 29 other teams and sign a max term contract, except Tampa.
- dan_77

How far off do you feel the Leafs are from serious contention? This is the same argument my cousin-in-law (Isles fan but Leafs hater first) always tries to draw up.

Even if the Leafs are starting from absolute zero there is no indication they could not be a contender within the lifetime of Stamkos's potential 7 year term.

If the Leafs can land a true stud #1 defenseman and an above average goalie they're in solid shape what with Nylander, Marner, Matthews, Soshnikov, Zaitsev, et al.

Short answer: in no way are the Leafs not a legitimate option for Stamkos.