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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 3 @ 4:04 PM ET
unless benning signs him and he turns into a top 6 impact forward, benning should be fired.

#assetmanagement #prospectdevelopment #freakout #riot #we'realldoomed

- RealityChecker


Okay......
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 3 @ 4:08 PM ET
Okay......
- belcherbd

oh wait, did i forget the
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 3 @ 4:08 PM ET
True.

Remember when the top UFA NCAA prospects were Danny DeKeyser and Kellan Lain? Dekeysey has been a big part of the success in DET, so I think it is very much worth the risk.

- Codes1087


I agree, definitively worth signing these guys, look at how Tanev has done but I do think it is really hard to predict much success from these guys.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 3 @ 4:08 PM ET
oh wait, did i forget the
- RealityChecker


Much better, for a moment I thought it was Tuesday....
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

May 3 @ 4:17 PM ET
Langley Giants..

Would be nice if a different team (maybe AHL) played in the Pacific Coliseum.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 3 @ 4:23 PM ET
Langley Giants..

Would be nice if a different team (maybe AHL) played in the Pacific Coliseum.

- RonPielep


That's not a bad idea.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

May 3 @ 4:28 PM ET
There needs to be a 15,000 seat arena in the Surrey/ Langley area that would attract all kinds of entertainment acts. I'd suggest around the Surrey Central Skytrain station.
- kaptaan

theres no where to put it there tho....Im sure the area around the useless strip where they have that old hotel and strip bar right by the patullo bridge could be had for a cheap price and demolished.
and thats not far from scott road station
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 3 @ 4:31 PM ET
That's not a bad idea.
- dbot


Perhaps we see Utica get moved there once there initial 6 year deal is done....
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 3 @ 4:33 PM ET
Perhaps we see Utica get moved there once there initial 6 year deal is done....
- WhatTheNuck


Or sooner.
Break that lease and move the team to the backyard.
Give fans a chance to see some prospects and make call ups so much easier.
What is the AHL western division like? I suppose that would be the major stumbling block.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 3 @ 4:35 PM ET
theres no where to put it there tho....Im sure the area around the useless strip where they have that old hotel and strip bar right by the patullo bridge could be had for a cheap price and demolished.
and thats not far from scott road station

- SMBDragon


I just saw this a few minutes ago, but apparently they were working on one down Johnston hill towards the bridge: http://vancouversun.com/s...ving-to-langley-next-fall

It also gives some actual figures for what it was costing to operate there
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 3 @ 4:38 PM ET
Or sooner.
Break that lease and move the team to the backyard.
Give fans a chance to see some prospects and make call ups so much easier.
What is the AHL western division like? I suppose that would be the major stumbling block.

- dbot


I'm not sure the details of the deal but I was under the impression it would not happen before the end of the 6 years. I think it would be a smart move though.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 3 @ 4:38 PM ET
Or sooner.
Break that lease and move the team to the backyard.
Give fans a chance to see some prospects and make call ups so much easier.
What is the AHL western division like? I suppose that would be the major stumbling block.

- dbot


This is very unlikely. The AUD and fan support in Utica has been ridiculous since they arrived, this is likely a really good cash cow for the Aquillini's and moving to an area that failed previously for various reasons (Abbotsford, Calgary farm team, etc) seems like too risky of a move
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 3 @ 4:43 PM ET
Or sooner.
Break that lease and move the team to the backyard.
Give fans a chance to see some prospects and make call ups so much easier.
What is the AHL western division like? I suppose that would be the major stumbling block.

- dbot


The closest team to Vancouver is ~ 950 miles and Utica has 15 teams under 300 miles away.

Utica also has one of the strongest fan bases in the league and great GM who is from the area and likely would not move with team. I think there is way more reasons to keep the team where it is than to move it to the west.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 3 @ 4:44 PM ET
This is very unlikely. The AUD and fan support in Utica has been ridiculous since they arrived, this is likely a really good cash cow for the Aquillini's and moving to an area that failed previously for various reasons (Abbotsford, Calgary farm team, etc) seems like too risky of a move
- WhiteLie


Really?

I have nothing to base this on, but i find it hard to believe that money is the issue.
FA surely has much better money making ventures than a farm hockey team...
And although the fans have been great in Utica, the fans at the coliseum would pack it out for a chance to see Vancouver prospects like Demko, McCann, Subban, etc and for an affordable rate.

My guess is re alining the AHL would be a bigger issue.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 3 @ 4:47 PM ET
The closest team to Vancouver is ~ 950 miles and Utica has 15 teams under 300 miles away.

Utica also has one of the strongest fan bases in the league and great GM who is from the area and likely would not move with team. I think there is way more reasons to keep the team where it is than to move it to the west.

- belcherbd


the only negatives I have heard about Utica is the distance to Vancouver and Utica's closest airport.

I don't foresee myself ever being in Utica, but if I was there, it looks like a great place to take in an AHL game.

A bit of a pain in the ass that it is so far away but it looks like a good place for players to develop.
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 3 @ 4:50 PM ET
Really?

I have nothing to base this on, but i find it hard to believe that money is the issue.
FA surely has much better money making ventures than a farm hockey team...
And although the fans have been great in Utica, the fans at the coliseum would pack it out for a chance to see Vancouver prospects like Demko, McCann, Subban, etc and for an affordable rate.

My guess is re alining the AHL would be a bigger issue.

- dbot


From a recent article on the Comets season:
And, of course, the players paid tribute to the fans, which filled the Aud for each of the team's 38 home games this season. The Comets have sold out 55 consecutive games dating back to the 2014-15 season. Even after Thursday's loss, fans stayed to cheer for the team. Hensick, who has played in more than 500 AHL games, said the support is unlike anything he's experienced in his career.
“It's extremely fun and exciting to play in front of them,” he said. “It's something I'll always remember.”
http://www.uticaod.com/ar...9/NEWS/160429354/?Start=2

I'm not saying its the sole reason, but when you've got a team in a position to make money, I cant see them wanting to move. The support has been constant from day 1, whereas I can see it struggling if the prospect pool thins out like it was in 2010-2012 when the parent club was going for championships. Yes Utica is a pain to get to, but from a business standpoint it is really successful and creating a minor league team that players enjoy being a part of
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 3 @ 4:50 PM ET
Really?

I have nothing to base this on, but i find it hard to believe that money is the issue.
FA surely has much better money making ventures than a farm hockey team...
And although the fans have been great in Utica, the fans at the coliseum would pack it out for a chance to see Vancouver prospects like Demko, McCann, Subban, etc and for an affordable rate.

My guess is re alining the AHL would be a bigger issue.

- dbot

6 AHL teams have relocatedWest
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 3 @ 4:53 PM ET
From a recent article on the Comets season:
http://www.uticaod.com/ar...9/NEWS/160429354/?Start=2

I'm not saying its the sole reason, but when you've got a team in a position to make money, I cant see them wanting to move. The support has been constant from day 1, whereas I can see it struggling if the prospect pool thins out like it was in 2010-2012 when the parent club was going for championships. Yes Utica is a pain to get to, but from a business standpoint it is really successful and creating a minor league team that players enjoy being a part of

- WhiteLie


ya i heard that fans are great there, that's awesome and they should definitely keep a team there, but i want the farm team on the west coast and i'm sure JB and TL would too.

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 3 @ 4:54 PM ET
6 AHL teams have relocatedWest
- VANTEL


make it so Vantel.
Work your magic.
Start your rumors.

RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

May 3 @ 4:57 PM ET
ya i heard that fans are great there, that's awesome and they should definitely keep a team there, but i want the farm team on the west coast and i'm sure JB and TL would too.
- dbot


I'd be okay if it was someone else's farm team too. I just want good affordable hockey to be played in that arena. What else would they use it for besides the occasional concert?
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 3 @ 5:02 PM ET
ya i heard that fans are great there, that's awesome and they should definitely keep a team there, but i want the farm team on the west coast and i'm sure JB and TL would too.
- dbot


It definitely has its positives having them close. Winnipeg and Toronto both share cities and call ups are really easy to make. I just don't see a move to Vancouver because of the distance to other teams, like it was mentioned above. Edmonton has one down in Bakersfield which from what I have heard is a terrible place to be, so at least the players so far are happy being in Utica?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 3 @ 5:12 PM ET
make it so Vantel.
Work your magic.
Start your rumors.


- dbot

Nah they have it good in Utica
the end
Location: CA
Joined: 02.02.2009

May 3 @ 5:37 PM ET
It definitely has its positives having them close. Winnipeg and Toronto both share cities and call ups are really easy to make. I just don't see a move to Vancouver because of the distance to other teams, like it was mentioned above. Edmonton has one down in Bakersfield which from what I have heard is a terrible place to be, so at least the players so far are happy being in Utica?
- WhiteLie

... careful ... currently 90 degrees and will be until October ...
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 3 @ 5:40 PM ET
If anyone is interested the lines from today's 3-0 win over the Czechs.

Hall Brassard Reinhart
Domi McDavid Duchene
Jenner O'Reilly Gallagher
Hamilton Scheifele Stone

Rielly Tanev
Murray Ceci
Hutton Dumba
Matheson

Talbot
Pickard

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 3 @ 5:42 PM ET
If anyone is interested the lines from today's 3-0 win over the Czechs.

Hall Brassard Reinhart
Domi McDavid Duchene
Jenner O'Reilly Gallagher
Hamilton Scheifele Stone

Rielly Tanev
Murray Ceci
Hutton Dumba
Matheson

Talbot
Pickard

- belcherbd

How did Hutton look out there?
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