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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 7 @ 11:08 AM ET
Stamkos 10 million
O'Reilly 7.5
Offer sheet Kucherov 7.5
Ennis 5
Kane 5
Moulson 5
Bogo 5

That's 45 million right there and that's not counting the raises to Eichel and Reinhart which is another 15 million at least plus another 6-8 for Risto. That's $68 million right there.

- Stripes77


"Pegs will just drill another well."

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 7 @ 11:08 AM ET
Stamkos 10 million
O'Reilly 7.5
Offer sheet Kucherov 7.5
Ennis 5
Kane 5
Moulson 5
Bogo 5

That's 45 million right there and that's not counting the raises to Eichel and Reinhart which is another 15 million at least plus another 6-8 for Risto. That's $68 million right there.

- Stripes77

gionta, franson, moulson, gorges all off the books when the skunk and magic jack get paid

I doubt kane signs here when he hits free agency


get the best team possible and don't look back
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 7 @ 11:09 AM ET
"Pegs will just drill another well."


- Der Kaiser

he said cups, not cup
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 7 @ 12:10 PM ET
gionta, franson, moulson, gorges all off the books when the skunk and magic jack get paid

I doubt kane signs here when he hits free agency


get the best team possible and don't look back

- homiedclown


The only guy I had that will be off the books is Moulson so that brings you to $63 million between 9 guys. Take out Kane that $58 million between 8 guys. That's extremely top heavy. Not to mention Lehner gets around $4 million. $62 million and you have 9 guys signed. Even if the cap is $82 million you have $20 million to disperse between 14 guys and no first round draft picks to replenish the roster either.

I'm all for going to get great players and great players are difference makers especially in the post season but you can't play them with AHLers. To me it's all about balance. I want a great team not just one or two great players.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 7 @ 12:57 PM ET
The only guy I had that will be off the books is Moulson so that brings you to $63 million between 9 guys. Take out Kane that $58 million between 8 guys. That's extremely top heavy. Not to mention Lehner gets around $4 million. $62 million and you have 9 guys signed. Even if the cap is $82 million you have $20 million to disperse between 14 guys and no first round draft picks to replenish the roster either.

I'm all for going to get great players and great players are difference makers especially in the post season but you can't play them with AHLers. To me it's all about balance. I want a great team not just one or two great players.

- Stripes77



Moulson & Ennis are in the last year of their deals though
By then we should be able to move them off the roster

It would be tough to do, but...

Girgensons isn't getting much on this next deal
Same with Foligno, Larsson, Bailey, Fasching
Eichel, Reinhart, Stamkos, ROR, Kucherov
That's 10 forwards, so u could even move out Girgs as well to save about 1mil
Then you'd fill in with any number of forward prospects, some that are rated with top9 potential
Schaller, Karabacek, Baptiste, Oloffson, Possler, Carrier, Catenacci, Hurley, Cornel, Malone, Estephan...
I know I'm forgetting some guys too
And obviously not all those guys will work out,
But all we need in that case is for Bailey or Fasching to become a legit top6 guy and then we should be able to make up a solid bottom 6 out of all the rest of them

Where it probably limits us is on defense
So we'd need McCabe or Guhle to become a legit partner for Risto
Bogo prob has to be moved
And Pysyk &/or Nelson need to become legit top4 guys

As far as replenishing without 1st round picks go...
We'd have to hit on a couple of our 2nd & 3rd round picks
But also, we'd be presumably good enough that college UFAs would sign here, and solid vet UFAs would sign in the cheap...
And the returns we'd get from trading Kane, Ennis & Bogo & even Girgs could all help restock the shelves a bit
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 7 @ 1:24 PM ET
Moulson & Ennis are in the last year of their deals though
By then we should be able to move them off the roster

It would be tough to do, but...

Girgensons isn't getting much on this next deal
Same with Foligno, Larsson, Bailey, Fasching
Eichel, Reinhart, Stamkos, ROR, Kucherov
That's 10 forwards, so u could even move out Girgs as well to save about 1mil
Then you'd fill in with any number of forward prospects, some that are rated with top9 potential
Schaller, Karabacek, Baptiste, Oloffson, Possler, Carrier, Catenacci, Hurley, Cornel, Malone, Estephan...
I know I'm forgetting some guys too
And obviously not all those guys will work out,
But all we need in that case is for Bailey or Fasching to become a legit top6 guy and then we should be able to make up a solid bottom 6 out of all the rest of them

Where it probably limits us is on defense
So we'd need McCabe or Guhle to become a legit partner for Risto
Bogo prob has to be moved
And Pysyk &/or Nelson need to become legit top4 guys

As far as replenishing without 1st round picks go...
We'd have to hit on a couple of our 2nd & 3rd round picks
But also, we'd be presumably good enough that college UFAs would sign here, and solid vet UFAs would sign in the cheap...
And the returns we'd get from trading Kane, Ennis & Bogo & even Girgs could all help restock the shelves a bit

- jdfitz77


You're banking on an awful lot to happen to have a legit chance to have a complete team. Sign Stamkos or offer sheet Kucherov. I don't see a way for both.

I took Moulson off the only one I didn't take off is Ennis. So take Ennis away that's $25 million for 15 players. Again not a good plan.

Not to mention if McCabe and one of Pysyk or Nelson steps up to fill those rolls they are going to get paid for it. So take away 8-10 million for those two players and you're at $20 million for 14 players assuming you move Bogo IF the cap goes up to $82 million in 2-3 years.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 7 @ 1:56 PM ET
gionta, franson, moulson, gorges all off the books when the skunk and magic jack get paid

I doubt kane signs here when he hits free agency


get the best team possible and don't look back

- homiedclown



I bet if the numbers are there they'll overpay to keep him, its murrays guy.
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