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SABRES 89
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May 15 @ 1:15 PM ET
I don't think it is as much of a no-brainer as you seem to think.
- Der Kaiser

What that they won't go after Stamkos ? they are
Der Kaiser
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May 15 @ 1:18 PM ET
What that they won't go after Stamkos ? they are
- SABRES 89


I'm confident that the Sabres will be in the mix.

I'm not confident that it is a no brainer to sign him at any cost
sbroads24
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May 15 @ 1:19 PM ET
What that they won't go after Stamkos ? they are
- SABRES 89

You have to understand, we're at the point where people are going to say that Stamkos might not be a 1st liner anymore. Just wait for it, someone will say it between now and July
SABRES 89
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May 15 @ 1:19 PM ET
I'm confident that the Sabres will be in the mix.

I'm not confident that it is a no brainer to sign him at any cost

- Der Kaiser

No why would they
Der Kaiser
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May 15 @ 1:23 PM ET
No why would they
- SABRES 89


I thought you said Bucky was a fool for saying they should be careful about what the're willing to pay
SABRES 89
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May 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
I'm confident that the Sabres will be in the mix.

I'm not confident that it is a no brainer to sign him at any cost

- Der Kaiser

Worse case, they can sign 3 players if they don't get him. Good to have options.
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May 15 @ 1:36 PM ET
I'm confident that the Sabres will be in the mix.

I'm not confident that it is a no brainer to sign him at any cost

- Der Kaiser


I'm going to have to disagree and we have the opportunity to sign one of the top snipers To ov in the NHL I really don't want to miss out people thought ov was Decreasing but he proved everyone wrong and I think Stamkos will do the same and he's younger .

Just think about those beautiful passes That jack has been sending to his teammates but they miss every time with Stamkos there's no missing we have the opportunity to have a 50 to 60 goal scorer on the team that crazy to think about
Der Kaiser
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May 15 @ 1:38 PM ET
I'm going to have to disagree and we have the opportunity to sign one of the top snipers To ov in the NHL I really don't want to miss out people thought ov was Decreasing but he proved everyone wrong and I think Stamkos will do the same and he's younger .

Just think about those beautiful passes That jack has been sending to his teammates but they miss every time with Stamkos there's no missing we have the opportunity to have a 50 to 60 goal scorer on the team that crazy to think about

- GERBE!!!75PTS


I agree its exciting, but did you read bucky's article?
sbroads24
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May 15 @ 1:39 PM ET
I'm going to have to disagree and we have the opportunity to sign one of the top snipers To ov in the NHL I really don't want to miss out people thought ov was Decreasing but he proved everyone wrong and I think Stamkos will do the same and he's younger .

Just think about those beautiful passes That jack has been sending to his teammates but they miss every time with Stamkos there's no missing we have the opportunity to have a 50 to 60 goal scorer on the team that crazy to think about

- GERBE!!!75PTS

But he didn't even lead his team in scoring half the time..mmmhe only is second in the whole league in goals for the past what 8 years?
Der Kaiser
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May 15 @ 1:55 PM ET
But he didn't even lead his team in scoring half the time..mmmhe only is second in the whole league in goals for the past what 8 years?
- sbroads24


Messages typed by you in this very thread:

Ladd's down year is cause for questions about signing him.
Kane's injuries this year are cause for questions about the value of his contract.
Ignore Stamkos' injuries and down year, just sign him.
sbroads24
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May 15 @ 2:00 PM ET
Messages typed by you in this very thread:

Ladd's down year is cause for questions about signing him.
Kane's injuries this year are cause for questions about the value of his contract.
Ignore Stamkos' injuries and down year, just sign him.

- Der Kaiser

A. I don't question Kane's current deal. 5 mil is fine
B. I suggested signing Ladd over Staal.
C. I love that Kane prevents us from signing some FA because they hate him. Makes that trade look better and better everyday

D. For the love of god stop comparing Kane, Ladd, Bogo, etc to Steven Stamkos. Seriously it's so ridiculous. Stamkos scored what Kane dreams of on a "down year"
Der Kaiser
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May 15 @ 2:02 PM ET
A. I don't question Kane's current deal. 5 mil is fine
B. I suggested signing Ladd over Staal.
C. I love that Kane prevents us from signing some FA because they hate him. Makes that trade look better and better everyday

D. For the love of god stop comparing Kane, Ladd, Bogo, etc to Steven Stamkos. Seriously it's so ridiculous. Stamkos scored what Kane dreams of on a "down year"

- sbroads24


Im not comparing the players. You are.

I'm comparing your reasoning across different players.
DDM-Coga
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May 15 @ 2:03 PM ET
why dont GMTM call up the Sens again and try and get Cody Ceci from them.

He had a rough year in Ottawa, his stats on taht team are garbage based on how ottawa plays...put him with a good partner (or just away from Chris Phillips) and look at what happens. Stick it to the sens one last time

sbroads24
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May 15 @ 2:10 PM ET
Im not comparing the players. You are.

I'm comparing your reasoning across different players.

- Der Kaiser

I honestly don't think some people know how good Stamkos is. They cant, otherwise there would be no questions.

He's better than Eichel is right now. He's 2x the player Reinhart is and probably ever will be. He's a lot better than O'Reilly who we are all (not sarcastic) really impressed with.

Are people watching the teams that are left? Do they see how much talent they have?

Thornton
Pavelski
Burns
Couture
Vlasic
Marleau

And they were like the 5th favorite just out of the west

Kucherov
Hedman
Johnson
Palat
Killorn
Drouin

And they are missing 2 all stars.

How anyone in their right mind could question adding a 40 goal scorer at 26 years old without having to trade assets for is unreal


Der Kaiser
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May 15 @ 2:15 PM ET
I honestly don't think some people know how good Stamkos is. They cant, otherwise there would be no questions.

He's better than Eichel is right now. He's 2x the player Reinhart is and probably ever will be. He's a lot better than O'Reilly who we are all (not sarcastic) really impressed with.

Are people watching the teams that are left? Do they see how much talent they have?

Thornton
Pavelski
Burns
Couture
Vlasic
Marleau

And they were like the 5th favorite just out of the west

Kucherov
Hedman
Johnson
Palat
Killorn
Drouin

And they are missing 2 all stars.

How anyone in their right mind could question adding a 40 goal scorer at 26 years old without having to trade assets for is unreal

- sbroads24



If the question were this simple, then of course everyone would say yes lets sign him.

But it's not.

The question is how much will it take to sign him for how many years, and what opportunities will be foreclosed (especially in the later years) as a result.
turbo044
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May 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
I agree its exciting, but did you read bucky's article?
- Der Kaiser


Kaiser is right, Bucky's article argued fornand against signing Stamkos. Both sides provided valid points.
turbo044
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May 15 @ 2:23 PM ET
I dont see it either, but it wouldnt be shocking to see them talk. Avs were hot for Bogo before he was traded in the Kane deal.

Barrie, 10th + other crap for Bogo, 8th + other crap would be the deal I see happening if anything. Its more of a trade of getting players you want vs getting players to need to fill the void at the moment

- DDM-Coga

.
Coga - first of all it's nice to have a rational fan from another team on thses blogs. I think BUF would do this trade all day though, I think you're overvaluing Bogo/undervaluing Barrie? Hope I'm wrong though
Der Kaiser
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May 15 @ 2:23 PM ET
Kaiser is right, Bucky's article argued fornand against signing Stamkos. Both sides provided valid points.
- turbo044


Best suggestion i saw in the comments was to pay more $ and avoid the NMC or NTC. We want to be able to dump the contract if it gets Molson like.
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May 15 @ 2:27 PM ET
.
Coga - first of all it's nice to have a rational fan from another team on thses blogs. I think BUF would do this trade all day though, I think you're overvaluing Bogo/undervaluing Barrie? Hope I'm wrong though

- turbo044

He's not trading Bogo, why people seem to think he might is beyond me.
sbroads24
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May 15 @ 2:28 PM ET
.
Coga - first of all it's nice to have a rational fan from another team on thses blogs. I think BUF would do this trade all day though, I think you're overvaluing Bogo/undervaluing Barrie? Hope I'm wrong though

- turbo044

It wouldn't be 1 for 1 or close to it. Probably 8th plus Bogo.
DDM-Coga
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May 15 @ 2:38 PM ET
It wouldn't be 1 for 1 or close to it. Probably 8th plus Bogo.
- sbroads24


If the 2 teams are talking, It would be a larger deal. Especially if the Avs are really hot and bothered for a guy that they think they cant draft at 10.

8th overall, Bogo, Foligno(or someone similar) for Barrie and a draft pick, prob 2017 1st (dont think they give up the 10th this year). Something along those lines
jdfitz77
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May 15 @ 2:44 PM ET
If the question were this simple, then of course everyone would say yes lets sign him.

But it's not.

The question is how much will it take to sign him for how many years, and what opportunities will be foreclosed (especially in the later years) as a result.

- Der Kaiser



Idk what opportunities u think might come along that we'd miss out on...
But it's doubtful someone as good as Stamkos comes available

No one can see the future, so not signing a guy bc of what MIGHT happen to come along down the line doesn't make sense to me.
Not with a guy as good as Stamkos.
If u wanted to say that about Ladd, or Staal, etc that would make more sense to me
Der Kaiser
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May 15 @ 2:52 PM ET
Idk what opportunities u think might come along that we'd miss out on...
But it's doubtful someone as good as Stamkos comes available

No one can see the future, so not signing a guy bc of what MIGHT happen to come along down the line doesn't make sense to me.
Not with a guy as good as Stamkos.
If u wanted to say that about Ladd, or Staal, etc that would make more sense to me

- jdfitz77


Its not whether we would get anyone better at his role, its whether we would be foreclosed from getting others at other roles - IE 1st pair Dmen
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May 15 @ 2:57 PM ET
Cold and snowy out I love Buffalo but I can't wait to go back home tomorrow it's so depressing when it's like this
GERBE!!!75PTS
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May 15 @ 3:00 PM ET
I agree its exciting, but did you read bucky's article?
- Der Kaiser


I usually don't read his stuff because he would constantly shove down our throat
About Danny , drury I totally understand it was managements fault but you just had to let it go at some point and not bring it up every time ..
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