Was more thinking in a way that they are on some sort of tax statement. That they contribute to society in some way other than leaching off it.
- cabin

i have a tough time with this idea. im leberal enough to believe in safety nets, but am tired of seeing them be used like a hammock.

not to go too far off topic, but i feel bad for kids in their 20s. the trend seems to be to force baby boomers out and hire kids for a pittance. if you go to college and graduate with 50k in debt (you might be one of the lucky ones from what i hear), you get to start making a dent in that with your entry level salary and most likely bloated insurance costs. wanna buy a house?- to buy a $140,000 house you need $28,000 plus another $7,000 or so for closing costs- just so you dont have to pay mortgage insurance ($130 a month for the life of the mortgage). so basically, you should have $50,000 in the bank and you actually have $50,000 in debt. and thats if you dont get in trouble with credit cards in college. im in my 40s now, but i remember going to the bursars to sign my prom notes with a sense of complete detachment- because i dont even wanna think about having to pay this back, i just have to get through and graduate. gotta be a better way. we need kids to gain skills (college or trade), and we need to not kill them for doing the right thing.
- rover16

I feel bad for me


I was forced at age 14 to pay into social security so I would get a check back at the age of 62


they always want to change the rules and I am sure in 20 years they will raise that to 70

i have a tough time with this idea. im leberal enough to believe in safety nets, but am tired of seeing them be used like a hammock.
- rover16

if your on welfare, to keep the checks coming your moving to alaska and working for that handout


"Survival of the fittest" is a phrase that originated from Darwinian evolutionary theory as a way of describing the mechanism of natural selection. The biological concept of fitness is defined as reproductive success.

My head hurts too much for these topics..

not to go too far off topic, but i feel bad for kids in their 20s. the trend seems to be to force baby boomers out and hire kids for a pittance. if you go to college and graduate with 50k in debt (you might be one of the lucky ones from what i hear), you get to start making a dent in that with your entry level salary and most likely bloated insurance costs. wanna buy a house?- to buy a $140,000 house you need $28,000 plus another $7,000 or so for closing costs- just so you dont have to pay mortgage insurance ($130 a month for the life of the mortgage). so basically, you should have $50,000 in the bank and you actually have $50,000 in debt. and thats if you dont get in trouble with credit cards in college. im in my 40s now, but i remember going to the bursars to sign my prom notes with a sense of complete detachment- because i dont even wanna think about having to pay this back, i just have to get through and graduate. gotta be a better way. we need kids to gain skills (college or trade), and we need to not kill them for doing the right thing.
- rover16

Join the military. I have used my VA mortgage twice and did not have to put any $ down except for closing costs.
Of course I joined when Reagan was Prez. Eveyone was joining and Muslim terrorists did not exist in the U.S.. Got trained to kill people, blow things up, drive a tractor trailer and rough terrain forklift, and certified to teach Army folks. Good Times.

Now I make eyeglasses for seniors and teach Muslim Americans.

back to hockey- goligoski 5x5, yes or no?

Did ban have anything to do w Leaf fans saying Matthews is God?

Sbroads had a couple good zingers in that one.
- LandlordTom

Ha. No was from some guy named mcnulty he got a much longer ban than me

back to hockey- goligoski 5x5, yes or no?
- rover16

I'd rather do yandle 5 for 6.5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1IQYD4Uew

back to hockey- goligoski 5x5, yes or no?
- rover16

I feel bad for me


I was forced at age 14 to pay into social security so I would get a check back at the age of 62


they always want to change the rules and I am sure in 20 years they will raise that to 70
- homiedclown

The only security we will see is the Peter Gabriel record...the one w/ Shock the Monkey.

The only security we will see is the Peter Gabriel record...the one w/ Shock the Monkey.
- LandlordTom

back to hockey- goligoski 5x5, yes or no?
- rover16

Not a bad player or bad cost, but term? Wrong side of thirty y.o.

Just finished my first year of law school..

...went out last night....

....got so lost i had to get a cop to walk me in the right direction...expressed my undying love to a girl i've never talked to....and woke up with the lights on, my socks on, and pizza scattered around my apartment
- feetontheair22

341 State Street. Just off Lark.

First floor apt. 1987.

back to hockey- goligoski 5x5, yes or no?
- rover16

I'd do it.

So randomly fell across a winners / losers from 2016 NHL Trade Deadline, just looking though the deals that happened...

Penguins, only added D Daley
Tampa Bay, only traded a backup goalie (were considered losers due to holding onto Drouin)
Sharks, added a couple guys, but not top 6 forward or top 4 D
Blues, only added a backup goalie

So not sure it "proves" anything, but making a big trade at deadline rarely works out well for that team (from my recent knowledge). Just interesting is all.

I would LOVE to get Muzzin but I just can't see any situation to justify LA trading him.

- homiedclown

conjugate the verb

So randomly fell across a winners / losers from 2016 NHL Trade Deadline, just looking though the deals that happened...

Penguins, only added D Daley
Tampa Bay, only traded a backup goalie (were considered losers due to holding onto Drouin)
Sharks, added a couple guys, but not top 6 forward or top 4 D
Blues, only added a backup goalie

So not sure it "proves" anything, but making a big trade at deadline rarely works out well for that team (from my recent knowledge). Just interesting is all.
- Lilroot9

the carter trade is the first one that comes to mind

My head hurts too much for these topics..
- feetontheair22

A life in being plus 100 years.

A life in being plus 100 years.
- Der Kaiser

If that was supposed to be a rule against perpetuities joke i hate you

So randomly fell across a winners / losers from 2016 NHL Trade Deadline, just looking though the deals that happened...

Penguins, only added D Daley
Tampa Bay, only traded a backup goalie (were considered losers due to holding onto Drouin)
Sharks, added a couple guys, but not top 6 forward or top 4 D
Blues, only added a backup goalie

So not sure it "proves" anything, but making a big trade at deadline rarely works out well for that team (from my recent knowledge). Just interesting is all.
- Lilroot9

Daley has been superb for Pittsburgh.

If that was supposed to be a rule against perpetuities joke i hate you
- feetontheair22

Expresivo unis est exclusivo alterius.

- homiedclown

Always loved Moribund the Burgermeister! PG is huge Mancrush for me.

Expresivo unis est exclusivo alterius.
- Der Kaiser

sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas