Iggysbff
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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For the Leafs to even have "ANY" sort of Chance of landing the #2 pick (which would obviously be for Finnish Winger Patrik Laine) the trade would have to look something like this:
To Winnipeg:
o 2016 1st Rnd Pick (Previously Pittsburgh)
o 2016 2nd Round Pick (Toronto)
o James Van Reimsdyk LW 1989
o Jake Gardiner D 1990
To Toronto:
o 2nd Overall Pick 2016 (P.Laine)
but realistically speaking....I don't think Winnipeg Trades their #2 Pick. - Sandro
Come on you guys
Why are you even bothering to come up with anything? You really believe the Jets are going to take on over 10 mill in salary and extra contracts and players that will need protected in an expansion draft plus a couple of crappy picks for Laine?
Jesus Ek is reeling them in today... |
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Only team that makes sense for the Jets with on draft day is the Oilers. Oilers have lots young left handed shooting D, and Winnipeg has lots of right handed shooting D.
I suggested this trade previously:
To Edmonton: Jacob Trouba, Chicago's 2016 first round pick, and a A prospect
To Winnipeg: Darnell Nurse and Edmonton's 2016 first round pick
Trouba would slot into the number one role in Edmonton and Nurse would slot into the number 4 role in Winnipeg. |
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Daddichronic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: T. Joined: 01.13.2014
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So EK - Philly wouldn't have to give up their best prospect to get the #2 pick?? Just a guy on an expiring contract, their 2nd and 4th prospect and a late first?
No mention of Ghost or Provorov to get the deal done? You sir are magic at getting people to comment on your completely ridiculous "Roooomers", I at least have to give credit for that. |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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cant believe we have another month of these ridiculous over payment type trades to read for the top 1 or 2 picks!!!
Did anyone read the article on TSN about what the top pick is actually worth? - Ross77
Yeah, but it was garbage. Yost is usually smarter than that piece. |
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This article is why nobody should ever take Ek seriously. Is this a joke? Matthews is 10x the player Laine is. Plays a much more important position as well. You draft a Toews over a Kessel, 10x out of 10. |
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BuzzKiller
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Yeah, but it was garbage. Yost is usually smarter than that piece. - djamon
last year it would have amounted to trading mcdavid for
22 - ilya samsonov
36 - gabriel gagne
96 - nicolas roy
126 - luke stevens
or
48 - filip chlapik
52 - jeremy lauzon
78 - erik foley
81 - brendan warren
138 - spencer smallman
168 - mason appleton
or for a draft year that players have had a chance to develop lets look at 2009 with john taveres going first
22 - jordan schroeder
36 - chris brown
96 - linden vey
126 - david kolomatis
or
48 - brett ponich
52 - richard panik
78 - sergei andronov
81 - adam morrison
138 - wade megan
168 - david shields
I can guarantee that would not happen but according to yost article that was fair value... |
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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Wow, that has to be one of, if not the, worst hockey blogs I have ever read.
I think someone owes a lot of people some compensation for thier wasted time for this click bait nonsense. |
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Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.21.2013
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From the leafs perspective, anything with Rielly in it is insane. In fact, i would not trade Rielly, straight up for Laine. Now...
JVR - 1st line winger
Nylander - ready now, and eventually 2nd line C or W.
A bunch of other ready prospects or picks |
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Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.21.2013
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Not nearly enough going to Winnipeg. You are asking for OEL, two prime time prospects nd a bunch of picks for Matthews, this deal doesn't get it done for Laine. - Oneonta Penguin
I think it could be close but would have to add a prospect closer to ready instead of pick 30 or 31. Jvr is a first line winger. He will score more goals than laine. He's a valuable piece.
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Benning is so terrible, that the trade pieces would be as such.
Horvat, Virtanen, Hutton, Boeser & a 1st, 2nd
for
Winipegs pick.
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For the Leafs to even have "ANY" sort of Chance of landing the #2 pick (which would obviously be for Finnish Winger Patrik Laine) the trade would have to look something like this:
To Winnipeg:
o 2016 1st Rnd Pick (Previously Pittsburgh)
o 2016 2nd Round Pick (Toronto)
o James Van Reimsdyk LW 1989
o Jake Gardiner D 1990
To Toronto:
o 2nd Overall Pick 2016 (P.Laine)
but realistically speaking....I don't think Winnipeg Trades their #2 Pick. - Sandro
NOT EVEN CLOSE
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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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My comment was deleted for some reason |
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sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Canada Joined: 07.15.2006
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My comment was deleted for some reason - kaptaan
Guess no one was interested in reading it
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ehabs9
Florida Panthers |
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Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC Joined: 07.15.2009
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Granted Winnipeg has enough prospect depth to move some for pieces they feel they need, but I'd think it's much more likely they move one of the forwards already in the system and stick with Laine. Ehlers is another winger who could get them a huge return, and as good as he is, I'd take Laine over him. |
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Granted Winnipeg has enough prospect depth to move some for pieces they feel they need, but I'd think it's much more likely they move one of the forwards already in the system and stick with Laine. Ehlers is another winger who could get them a huge return, and as good as he is, I'd take Laine over him. - ehabs9
Jesus H Christ man... |
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figgs1979
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Welland, ON Joined: 04.23.2016
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WTF.....THIS thread has got to be a joke... really... leafs are going to give up huge assets for another winger.
Marner - Winger ...Will be an A+ Winger
JVR - is An A+ Winger
Connor Brown - Needs to make the show .. Will Be good 2-3 line winger
Komarov - Grinding Winger who can score moderatley
Soshnikov - Will be a another 2-3-4 Winger with Grit
Timashov- QMJHL - Another Skilled Winger, small but awesome
Leivo, Hyman, Kapanen.....shall I go on.....
Leafs need to let the kids play.
Never mind selling the farm to get laine. |
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WTF.....THIS thread has got to be a joke... really... leafs are going to give up huge assets for another winger.
Marner - Winger ...Will be an A+ Winger
JVR - is An A+ Winger
Connor Brown - Needs to make the show .. Will Be good 2-3 line winger
Komarov - Grinding Winger who can score moderatley
Soshnikov - Will be a another 2-3-4 Winger with Grit
Timashov- QMJHL - Another Skilled Winger, small but awesome
Leivo, Hyman, Kapanen.....shall I go on.....
Leafs need to let the kids play.
Never mind selling the farm to get laine. - figgs1979
oh....
Relax...
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: No, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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WTF.....THIS thread has got to be a joke... really... leafs are going to give up huge assets for another winger.
Marner - Winger ...Will be an A+ Winger
JVR - is An A+ Winger
Connor Brown - Needs to make the show .. Will Be good 2-3 line winger
Komarov - Grinding Winger who can score moderatley
Soshnikov - Will be a another 2-3-4 Winger with Grit
Timashov- QMJHL - Another Skilled Winger, small but awesome
Leivo, Hyman, Kapanen.....shall I go on.....
Leafs need to let the kids play.
Never mind selling the farm to get laine. - figgs1979
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Buggy166
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 08.01.2007
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If the Leafs were looking to add the 2nd overall pick to draft Laine, I think it would have to be a trade that looks something like this….
To TOR: 2nd Overall Pick
To WIN: JVR, 1st from Pitts, Tor 2nd, Kapanen and Brown - cdn_ginger
So JvR, a young 50-60 point player (without a #1 center, on the worse team in the league), already at the NHL level
A late 1st round pick + the #1 pick in the 2nd round (2nd-3rd liners @ NHL level in terms of potential)
A young projected top 6 prospect (previously 1st round pick, 22nd overall)- likely a 2nd line player
And Connor Brown, top OHL scorer in 2014, top franchise record scorer, top scoring right winger, the nominee for OHL's top Canadian player of the year, who currently has 8 points in 10 games in the AHL playoffs.
All those forrrrr..an 18 yr old with the potential to score around 60-70+ points per year.
Essentially trading a package of players potentially worth around 150-200 points at the NHL level for 1x potential 60-70+ point player
Yea, no, im good.
If you're trading JvR for Laine, you're essentially swapping players, and hoping Laine gets an extra 20 points to make it worth the extra package you're gonna send with JvR out the door.
Given's JvR's age, there's zero reason to do that.
And if you got Stamkos coming, maybe? I think he'd rather play with someone a bit more experienced at the NHL level, than not. Basically saying I dont expect Laine to help dictate play as much as he will 2-4 years from now, for example. Not knocking on his talent.
Also, if you're Winnipeg, you'd have to be stupid to trade this way, unless you're getting something like a young #1 Dman in return (good luck finding one for a trade).
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Quick question for you, Ek:
What would it take for the Leafs to get Matthews, Laine and Puljujarvi? - Atomic Wedgie
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So JvR, a young 50-60 point player (without a #1 center, on the worse team in the league), already at the NHL level
A late 1st round pick + the #1 pick in the 2nd round (2nd-3rd liners @ NHL level in terms of potential)
A young projected top 6 prospect (previously 1st round pick, 22nd overall)- likely a 2nd line player
And Connor Brown, top OHL scorer in 2014, top franchise record scorer, top scoring right winger, the nominee for OHL's top Canadian player of the year, who currently has 8 points in 10 games in the AHL playoffs.
All those forrrrr..an 18 yr old with the potential to score around 60-70+ points per year.
Essentially trading a package of players potentially worth around 150-200 points at the NHL level for 1x potential 60-70+ point player
Yea, no, im good.
If you're trading JvR for Laine, you're essentially swapping players, and hoping Laine gets an extra 20 points to make it worth the extra package you're gonna send with JvR out the door.
Given's JvR's age, there's zero reason to do that.
And if you got Stamkos coming, maybe? I think he'd rather play with someone a bit more experienced at the NHL level, than not. Basically saying I dont expect Laine to help dictate play as much as he will 2-4 years from now, for example. Not knocking on his talent.
Also, if you're Winnipeg, you'd have to be stupid to trade this way, unless you're getting something like a young #1 Dman in return (good luck finding one for a trade).
- Buggy166
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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I love all this talk about Laine and crazy trade proposals. For once the Leafs have a no-brainer luxury asset handed to them by the hockey gods, after their long, long history of bad drafting, throwing away picks entirely and having no centre since Sundin. The first pick is a formality. The speculation is just soothing white noise to enjoy. Wake me up for picks #30 and #31. |
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