I would trade Simmonds for the 4th overall for Dubois let alone for Laine.

Power forwards tend to decline overnight leaving teams with a giant caphit and a mess on the ice. It will make no sense to resign Simmonds when his contract is over when he will be turning 31 since either he will have declined by then or his production will remain steady and he will be due a big raise with many years attached.

Since the Flyers probably won't be Stanley cup contenders over the remaining 3 season of his contract, unless you think prospect defensemen become #1 defenders overnight, it makes sense to move him while his value is high. Maybe not this season, but sooner than later.
- psuhockey

Why would you trade a power forward in his prime on a cap friendly deal who is a core of the nucleus and is a top line winger and power play producer, for an unproven commodity? PF's tend to decline overnight? He just had his first 30 goal season, you dont want to see if he can maybe build off of that? he's 27 right now, 31 is a long way away. the window for us being a cup contender can be open as soon as 2017-18, thats only a full year and an offseason away.

Stay the course, draft good young talent, keep your core guys. we will be fine if we follow Hexy.

I like the idea of picking at 18
- YuenglingJagr

me too. they seem to be drafting well wherever they are. laughton at 20, morin at 11, sanheim at 17, provy at 7 and konecny at 24. book is still out on Laughts tho.

In Hexy We Trust

Trade Schenn while his value is high.

Voracek Giroux Simmonds Coots
4 of the top 6. We need players better then Schenn in the top 6. Unless they think he can be the #2 Center once Giroux declines.

Id throw Umberger in the Delaware River, Trade Read for box of glazed donuts, and trade Schenn for a winger if anyone wants him.

Sign some players that can put the puck in the net. Erikson or Stamkos. If that is even possible.
- MikesPillBottle

How about just keeping Schenn and his 26 goals, rather than signing a 31 year old or the $11 million man?

What would it take to bring Wides back...and would you be interested?

Trade Schenn while his value is high.

Voracek Giroux Simmonds Coots
4 of the top 6. We need players better then Schenn in the top 6. Unless they think he can be the #2 Center once Giroux declines.

Id throw Umberger in the Delaware River, Trade Read for box of glazed donuts, and trade Schenn for a winger if anyone wants him.

Sign some players that can put the puck in the net. Erikson or Stamkos. If that is even possible.

If we are rebuilding we should be shedding salary like it is cancer. No point spending to the cap and barely being average.
- MikesPillBottle

This assumes we've seen the best of Schenn and it's all down hill from here. Um, I beg to differ.

Trade Schenn while his value is high.

Voracek Giroux Simmonds Coots
4 of the top 6. We need players better then Schenn in the top 6. Unless they think he can be the #2 Center once Giroux declines.

Id throw Umberger in the Delaware River, Trade Read for box of glazed donuts, and trade Schenn for a winger if anyone wants him.

Sign some players that can put the puck in the net. Erikson or Stamkos. If that is even possible.

If we are rebuilding we should be shedding salary like it is cancer. No point spending to the cap and barely being average.
- MikesPillBottle

Trade Schenn while his value is high.

Voracek Giroux Simmonds Coots
4 of the top 6. We need players better then Schenn in the top 6. Unless they think he can be the #2 Center once Giroux declines.

Id throw Umberger in the Delaware River, Trade Read for box of glazed donuts, and trade Schenn for a winger if anyone wants him.

Sign some players that can put the puck in the net. Erikson or Stamkos. If that is even possible.

If we are rebuilding we should be shedding salary like it is cancer. No point spending to the cap and barely being average.
- MikesPillBottle

Schenn scored 26 goals and added 33 assists, why is he not good enough for the top 6? He's 24 years old and just coming into his own. You shed older players, not young players in their prime.

How about just keeping Schenn and his 26 goals, rather than signing a 31 year old or the $11 million man?
- Feanor

100% this

What would it take to bring Wides back...and would you be interested?
- iskatefast

pardon? who?

Schenn scored 26 goals and added 33 assists, why is he not good enough for the top 6? He's 24 years old and just coming into his own. You shed older players, not young players in their prime.
- MJL

im not sure what it is with people wanting to trade schenn and simmer. makes zero sense to me. and then, not only that, but they want to sign a guy for 11 million, or a 31 year old coming off a contract year?

mind boggling to say the least

Why would you trade a power forward in his prime on a cap friendly deal who is a core of the nucleus and is a top line winger and power play producer, for an unproven commodity? PF's tend to decline overnight? He just had his first 30 goal season, you dont want to see if he can maybe build off of that? he's 27 right now, 31 is a long way away. the window for us being a cup contender can be open as soon as 2017-18, thats only a full year and an offseason away.

Stay the course, draft good young talent, keep your core guys. we will be fine if we follow Hexy.
- sjk540

From an asset management perspective...would be great to trade Simmonds for that, but I doubt he moves for that.

Locker room is a different story, and we dont know if he is necessary, but he at least seems to be helpful

pardon? who?
- YuenglingJagr

im gonna guess wideman? but he was never on our team so bringing him back wouldnt make sense. also hes a 33 year old defenseman with a 5mil+ cap hit. no thanks.

im gonna guess wideman? but he was never on our team so bringing him back wouldnt make sense. also hes a 33 year old defenseman with a 5mil+ cap hit. no thanks.
- sjk540

my guess was a made up nickname for Jeff Carter

im not sure what it is with people wanting to trade schenn and simmer. makes zero sense to me. and then, not only that, but they want to sign a guy for 11 million, or a 31 year old coming off a contract year?

mind boggling to say the least
- sjk540

truly is

From an asset management perspective...would be great to trade Simmonds for that, but I doubt he moves for that.

Locker room is a different story, and we dont know if he is necessary, but he at least seems to be helpful
- YuenglingJagr

trading simmonds for what exactly?

i can almost 100% say he is a necessary cog in the locker room, you hear it from everyone who says simmer's leadership and him being more vocal is huge for the players in the room. i dont think trading him can even be an option unless the offer is too, too good to refuse.

Out of pure curiosity/boredom what is Friedman worth in a trade right now? A 3rd maybe? Always hard to tell with these under the radar guys. All I know is scouts rave as about the kid.
- hereticpride

No idea what he's theoretically worth in a trade. Would be more of a sweetener to a trade package if some other team is high on him as opposed to dealing his rights for their own sake.

my guess was a made up nickname for Jeff Carter
- YuenglingJagr

didnt quite put 2+2 together there haha

my guess was a made up nickname for Jeff Carter
- YuenglingJagr

I didn't make up the name...but yes Jeff Carter..

What would it take to bring Wides back...and would you be interested?
- iskatefast

Young players with upside and picks. Not interested.

Why would you trade a power forward in his prime on a cap friendly deal who is a core of the nucleus and is a top line winger and power play producer, for an unproven commodity? PF's tend to decline overnight? He just had his first 30 goal season, you dont want to see if he can maybe build off of that? he's 27 right now, 31 is a long way away. the window for us being a cup contender can be open as soon as 2017-18, thats only a full year and an offseason away.

Stay the course, draft good young talent, keep your core guys. we will be fine if we follow Hexy.
- sjk540

Because every time someone young is doing well, it's "trade him while his value is high" without consideration for what his value is TO YOU. If you trade everyone when his value is high, you are in perpetual rebuild. You hear it all the time and it never makes sense to me.

If he was under contract he'd be worth more than that, but a team trading for him now would have no guarantee he would sign with them.
- Feanor

He is a nice little prospect but not someone who will have his choice of multiple offers if he opts to go UFA come Aug 15, 2018. He'd sign, whether here or elsewhere, when he is ready to turn pro.

trading simmonds for what exactly?

i can almost 100% say he is a necessary cog in the locker room, you hear it from everyone who says simmer's leadership and him being more vocal is huge for the players in the room. i dont think trading him can even be an option unless the offer is too, too good to refuse.
- sjk540

that really doesnt mean too much to me...because they would just say the same thing about the next guy who becomes vocal and is a leader. it is pretty clear that he has a unique set of skills that are an asset to the team. It is more of a theoretical question of when the true core should be set up to succeed. I am fairly confident that Laine in his prime (with the defense) is a better set up to win than Giroux/simmer/jake/mason in their primes right now.

Either way it is a win - win. It would be a coup to trade a veteran RW for a young cant miss prospect. Talking about it is kind of useless because it is so unlikely. Id make the trade and piss myself with excitement during the trade call if I was Hextall. Luckily, Simmonds is the least of the Flyers problems and keeping him is still a fantastic asset for the Flyers

the window for us being a cup contender can be open as soon as 2017-18, thats only a full year and an offseason away.
- sjk540

So Provorov will be a #1 defenseman by his 2nd season? Or maybe Gostisbehere will be a #1 defenseman by his 3rd season?

For context Doughty didn't win a cup until his 4th season. Keith in his 5th. Victor Hedman just dominating a few season ago 5-6th season. Expecting these guys to come in and revolutionize the defense right away is wishful thinking and setting yourself for a massive disappointment.

My goal would not be just for the number 2. I would try a bigger package where you got number 2 and trouba.

Simmonds, Schenn, #18 and Sanheim for #2 and Trouba.

Something like that would be my plan
- J35Bacher

I'd go with

To Flyers - #2 overall pick + Trouba
To Winnipeg - #18 overall pick + MacDonald + Schenn + 2016 5th round pick + 2017 6th round pick + Read (as a sweetener)

http://www.theplayerstrib...s-fort-mcmurray-wildfire/

Very touching read. Feel for all those affected.