I'd go with

To Flyers - #2 overall pick + Trouba
To Winnipeg - #18 overall pick + MacDonald + Schenn + 2016 5th round pick + 2017 6th round pick + Read (as a sweetener)
- Streit2ThePoint

And they would go with

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

And they would go with

HAHAHAHAHAHAH
- jak521

And then I'd say







+ Umberger?

Because every time someone young is doing well, it's "trade him while his value is high" without consideration for what his value is TO YOU. If you trade everyone when his value is high, you are in perpetual rebuild. You hear it all the time and it never makes sense to me.
- bodiva88

I think it coincides with the contract. After his best season, he's due for a pretty sizable extension. Leaves you with 3 options.

1. Pay him sizable extension
2. Trade him
3. Negotiate bridge deal with player or through arbitration

This assumes we've seen the best of Schenn and it's all down hill from here. Um, I beg to differ.
- WhirlingDervish

Based on what? He is exactly the player he was last year. He will never be a first line player on a contending team. I'm not saying give him away for nothing.

This team needs wingers with the ability to score. Schenn is a support player, which is important, but we have too many of those on the team.

I'd go with

To Flyers - #2 overall pick + Trouba
To Winnipeg - #18 overall pick + MacDonald + Schenn + 2016 5th round pick + 2017 6th round pick + Read (as a sweetener)
- Streit2ThePoint

I think it coincides with the contract. After his best season, he's due for a pretty sizable extension. Leaves you with 3 options.

1. Pay him sizable extension
2. Trade him
3. Negotiate bridge deal with player or through arbitration
- PhillySportsGuy

We never sell high though. So her point is moot. We almost always sell low.

Schenn is heavily overrated and over valued by the hardcore orange tinted glasses portion of the fan base.

And then I'd say







+ Umberger?
- Streit2ThePoint

Would he be another sweetener or would that make it too sweet?

Based on what? He is exactly the player he was last year. He will never be a first line player on a contending team. I'm not saying give him away for nothing.

This team needs wingers with the ability to score. Schenn is a support player, which is important, but we have too many of those on the team.
- MikesPillBottle

Except for the 8 more goals and 12 more points in 2 less games at 24 years old. And the 8 point swing in +- to being a plus player. An increase in PP goals and PP points and shooting %.

Other than that, yeah, he is exactly the same player. Wears the same number and everything.

Anybody know of the last report from a GM that reported an "unsuccessful" surgery for a player?

Anybody know of the last report from a GM that reported an "unsuccessful" surgery for a player?
- flyguy12

nope...it has been a completely useless and irrelevant term for years now

I don't golf, but I would go to meet Ilkka.

Except for the 8 more goals and 12 more points in 2 less games at 24 years old. And the 8 point swing in +- to being a plus player. An increase in PP goals and PP points and shooting %.

Other than that, yeah, he is exactly the same player. Wears the same number and everything.
- MBFlyerfan

Well seems like he really took off once they stopped switching him from Forward to Defense and back

Would he be another sweetener or would that make it too sweet?
- Mononoke

You make a fair point here.

Maybe swap out Read in the initial proposal with Weal and then add Read as the backup power punch

Why would you trade a power forward in his prime on a cap friendly deal who is a core of the nucleus and is a top line winger and power play producer, for an unproven commodity? PF's tend to decline overnight? He just had his first 30 goal season, you dont want to see if he can maybe build off of that? he's 27 right now, 31 is a long way away. the window for us being a cup contender can be open as soon as 2017-18, thats only a full year and an offseason away.

Stay the course, draft good young talent, keep your core guys. we will be fine if we follow Hexy.
- sjk540

It's baffling how some folks overvalue draft picks. For every Crosby and Kane there are Yakupovs, Daigles, DiPietros etc.

This team does have a need in top talent, but not at that expense of core players and depth.

It's baffling how some folks overvalue draft picks. For every Crosby and Kane there are Yakupovs, Daigles, DiPietros etc.

This team does have a need in top talent, but not at that expense of core players and depth.
- missingmike

So they will not get top talent.

What would it take to bring Wides back...and would you be interested?
- iskatefast

Not interested in soft play Carter.

So Provorov will be a #1 defenseman by his 2nd season? Or maybe Gostisbehere will be a #1 defenseman by his 3rd season?

For context Doughty didn't win a cup until his 4th season. Keith in his 5th. Victor Hedman just dominating a few season ago 5-6th season. Expecting these guys to come in and revolutionize the defense right away is wishful thinking and setting yourself for a massive disappointment.
- psuhockey

So MDZ (26), Gudas (26) and Ghost (23) are all going to stop getting better?

That's a shame.

So they will not get top talent.
- Streit2ThePoint

Yep. If you don't draft in the top-5, you cannot get a good player.

Likewise, every player taken in the top-5 is a superstar.

Based on what? He is exactly the player he was last year. He will never be a first line player on a contending team. I'm not saying give him away for nothing.
- MikesPillBottle

Did you hit the pills, the bottle, or both before coming up with that statement?

Based on what? He is exactly the player he was last year. He will never be a first line player on a contending team. I'm not saying give him away for nothing.

This team needs wingers with the ability to score. Schenn is a support player, which is important, but we have too many of those on the team.
- MikesPillBottle

Schenn was the top forward for the Flyers down the stretch of the season getting into the playoffs and he was the best forward for the Flyers in the playoffs. I don't even think about moving him.

Did you hit the pills, the bottle, or both before coming up with that statement?
- Feanor

He hit Mike

So MDZ (26), Gudas (26) and Ghost (23) are all going to stop getting better?

That's a shame.
- Feanor

Do you consider anyone of them a #1 defenseman?

Schenn was the top forward for the Flyers down the stretch of the season getting into the playoffs and he was the best forward for the Flyers in the playoffs. I don't even think about moving him.
- Pixote Andolini

Really? He was awful in the playoffs. Only taking runs at people ≠ helping team win. He was essentially Tom Wilson in that series, with the offense to match.

Do you consider anyone of them a #1 defenseman?
- psuhockey

Being dominant and being successful/winning a cup are two different things. This team isnt built like the blackhawks or kings. I agree with you that it will take time to truly rely on any of the defenders to lead the team through on ice dominance (which is why ive stated the real core of this team isnt g and jake) But skilled play from the back end is going to help the Flyers compete more

Really? He was awful in the playoffs. Taking runs at people ≠ helping team win. He was essentially Tom Wilson in that series, with the offense to match.
- Mononoke

agreed