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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 19 @ 2:38 PM ET
I will be at the draft so here is my wishful thinking that GMTM trades up to #2 for Laine. Can anyone imagine him on Eichel's wing with Reinhart? Sweet Lord...

Then again that offer would have to be 8th overall, 2017 1st just to have a conversation tho...

- Beezer33


For Laine?

Would cost 8th overall, 2nd round pick, 2017 1st, Sam Reinhart.
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

May 19 @ 2:39 PM ET
6-12 beers a evening
- cabin


lightweight
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 19 @ 2:40 PM ET
Titos, ice water, small splash of Arizona RX Stress tea.

Low calorie greatness.

- ImThatGuy


Or just have watermelon
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 19 @ 2:41 PM ET
Still not even close, IMO.

Buffalo gets the two best players in the deal by a long shot.

The original deal was Perry and Fowler.

What sense does it make to acquire Fowler with Bogosian?

- ImThatGuy


Fowler is LHD Bogosian is RHD They get Bogosian who could be a 4th/5th guy there and play PP doesn't have to be the man there and they can use him in offensive situations. Fowler bigger need for us then what Bogosian brings Perry for 8th overall as well would be fair considering what else we are giving up and what an 8th overall pick is worth...
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 19 @ 2:41 PM ET
For Laine?

Would cost 8th overall, 2nd round pick, 2017 1st, Sam Reinhart.

- bluengold12


It would just cost Sam
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

May 19 @ 2:41 PM ET
6-12 beers a evening
- cabin

bottle and half of whiskey a week
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

May 19 @ 2:42 PM ET
bottle and half of whiskey a week
- IndianaSabresFan


Sounds about right
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 19 @ 2:42 PM ET
Fowler is LHD Bogosian is RHD They get Bogosian who could be a 4th/5th guy there and play PP doesn't have to be the man there and they can use him in offensive situations. Fowler bigger need for us then what Bogosian brings Perry for 8th overall as well would be fair considering what else we are giving up and what an 8th overall pick is worth...
- bluengold12


But to acquire Fowler you create another hole on defense.

Bogo and McCabe played great down the stretch, keep that together to start.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

May 19 @ 2:42 PM ET
It would just cost Sam
- GERBE!!!75PTS

i think you both are ridiculous.. one too high and one too low.. but what do i know i am not a GM
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 19 @ 2:43 PM ET
It would just cost Sam
- GERBE!!!75PTS

No, it would cost more.

Sam and 8 most likely.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 19 @ 2:43 PM ET
I will be at the draft so here is my wishful thinking that GMTM trades up to #2 for Laine. Can anyone imagine him on Eichel's wing with Reinhart? Sweet Lord...

Then again that offer would have to be 8th overall, 2017 1st just to have a conversation tho...

- Beezer33


How do you know you're going to be at the draft already when tickets haven't even come out for season ticket holder or anything
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

May 19 @ 2:44 PM ET
The Duck dont do either of those trades, they ask for more.

Perry is an MVP type player, Folwer is a top 4 d-man.

It's going to take a lot to get both in one deal. Sam Reinhart a lot.


Also P.S. Ott is not going to STL.

- ImThatGuy


Reinhart is not going anywhere is any deal...You would hvae to think the new coach coming in wants to work w Perry not ship him out....still think the Sabres are focused on a Stamkos pitch first cause that can make the draft go many different directions...if they sign him or other FA forwards then they focus on obtaining a dman.. and if not then work on jumping up to get a high profile forward in the draft...


I wonder if GMTM entertains the idea of having Ott back from STL tho...he did say he wants those guys on his team when he left which was nice but also not needed..Ott would fit in where Legwand leaves or maybe on his wing on the 4th line..

Fowler is a top 4 dman but still signed for a bit...I am not sure they move him..Vatanen makes more sense being a RFA and yes he is a right handed d man but I still am under the belief that Guele makes the jump in 2-3 years and will match up with Risto...just need to find a short term solution even if his stick hand may be the wrong way Disco Dan said that doesnt matter to him as much when game planning
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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May 19 @ 2:44 PM ET
No, it would cost more.

Sam and 8 most likely.

- ImThatGuy


Did you not see Sam play this year i'm pretty sure it would just take Sam


Edit : I thought you were saying it would take that ridiculous amount
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

May 19 @ 2:45 PM ET
How do you know you're going to be at the draft already when tickets haven't even come out for season ticket holder or anything
- GERBE!!!75PTS


NHL Coaches Clinic
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

May 19 @ 2:46 PM ET
We have reps in from NYC here at work. Upper management said to wear "New york" gear.

So, of course I wore my Sabres jersey hahaha
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 19 @ 2:46 PM ET
Did you not see Sam play this year i'm pretty sure it would just take Sam
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Because you dont move the pick for nothing short of of an over payment.

You ask for Sam and the 8. If Buffalo says no, you draft Laine.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 19 @ 2:48 PM ET
NHL Coaches Clinic
- Beezer33



Oh
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 19 @ 2:49 PM ET
Because you dont move the pick for nothing short of of an over payment.

You ask for Sam and the 8. If Buffalo says no, you draft Laine.

- ImThatGuy



I thought you were agreeing it would take that ridiculous amount sorry
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 19 @ 2:50 PM ET
Reinhart is not going anywhere is any deal...You would hvae to think the new coach coming in wants to work w Perry not ship him out....still think the Sabres are focused on a Stamkos pitch first cause that can make the draft go many different directions...if they sign him or other FA forwards then they focus on obtaining a dman.. and if not then work on jumping up to get a high profile forward in the draft...


I wonder if GMTM entertains the idea of having Ott back from STL tho...he did say he wants those guys on his team when he left which was nice but also not needed..Ott would fit in where Legwand leaves or maybe on his wing on the 4th line..

Fowler is a top 4 dman but still signed for a bit...I am not sure they move him..Vatanen makes more sense being a RFA and yes he is a right handed d man but I still am under the belief that Guele makes the jump in 2-3 years and will match up with Risto...just need to find a short term solution even if his stick hand may be the wrong way Disco Dan said that doesnt matter to him as much when game planning

- Beezer33


No thank you on Ott... Unless he comes in under 2 million and realizes he'll play only half the games.... We've got a younger Ott in Deslauries and cheaper too. Enough 4th line agitators. We need speed and skill.

As for Vatanen if we get him I'm trading Bogosian if he accepts the deal no quesiton...

On the right side you'd have Ristolainen Vatanen Bogosian Pysyk Franson Nelson... That's far too deep and Bogosian with that term and dollar amount shouldn't be your bottom pairing guy. Risto doesn't seem like he'd move tot he left have to assume the same with Vatanen so it just doesn't make sense unless they can get rid of Bogosian which they probably need an upgrade over anyway...
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

May 19 @ 2:50 PM ET
Because you dont move the pick for nothing short of of an over payment.

You ask for Sam and the 8. If Buffalo says no, you draft Laine.

- ImThatGuy


2016 1st and 3rd (we have a bunch), 2017 1st, Girgensons

Z seems like the trading chip of choice i feel...he could be a top 6 or bottom 6 guy but he is great defensively just needs to round out his game again...

Larsson around for another year, Gio and Moulson are not tradeable right now, Foligno is coming along well and you cant trade on the D end because we are already so weak
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

May 19 @ 2:50 PM ET
It's not Hard he is Jigglypuff
- GERBE!!!75PTS




Phil Kessel is making 6.8 mil a year and is playing for the Pens and prolly going to the Stanley Cup Finals this year....

Uh yeah ill have what he's having.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
But how much do you drink? That's my problem. I eat fine, even exercise a little. Someone just has to hide the cooh from me.
- Khmylev


I usually remember the first 5 or 6.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
Phil Kessel is making 6.8 mil a year and is playing for the Pens and prolly going to the Stanley Cup Finals this year....

Uh yeah ill have what he's having.

- Havic3814



The point is he could be better than what he is and I believe he could be the best player in the NHL
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

May 19 @ 2:54 PM ET
I usually remember the first 5 or 6.
- Der Kaiser



Camping trip begins in 2 hours. My cabin (5 of us) has 360 beers. There will not be one beer that goes to waste.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 19 @ 2:54 PM ET
2016 1st and 3rd (we have a bunch), 2017 1st, Girgensons

Z seems like the trading chip of choice i feel...he could be a top 6 or bottom 6 guy but he is great defensively just needs to round out his game again...

Larsson around for another year, Gio and Moulson are not tradeable right now, Foligno is coming along well and you cant trade on the D end because we are already so weak

- Beezer33



If that's all it took for the 2ndoverall pick I would do it in a second

But that's probably not even close
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