To get rid of Lupul we would need an opposing GM who:

1) Is really desperate for some offense
2) Has not been on the internet or read a paper for 2 years
3) Has no pro scouts
4) Owes Uncle Lou a big favour
- Rang

Lupul to Detroit for Pavel and a good pick?
If Pavel leaves for Russia, his 7 million dollar contract is still on the books for Detroit for one more year.
We take on a little more cap hit for only one year?

Now, could a team needing to hit the cap floor offer more or better? Maybe.
But its just an idea

If Zaitsev is in your top 4 you're (frank)ed.
- PepinoPamplemousse

ok.
explain.

considering we just finished last and cant get worse.

Did I read this right?

Did the Leafs trade Phaneuf and took back no long term contracts, AND retained no salary?

I can't believe they did this.
- Aetherial

We did take on dead weight in Michalek and Cowan. Greening looks like a decent 4th liner and Lindberg is in tough to be in the Marlies lineup. Hopefully the second rounder turns into a decent player because otherwise it's a fairly even deal in my view.

We did take on dead weight in Michalek and Cowan. Greening looks like a decent 4th liner and Lindberg is in tough to be in the Marlies lineup. Hopefully the second rounder turns into a decent player because otherwise it's a fairly even deal in my view.
- Rang

I think you're underestimating the cap flexibility this trade gave the Leafs. He has a 7M cap hit through 2021.

ok.
explain.

considering we just finished last and cant get worse.
- Fakepartofme

It's not that you'll be worse, just that it's more of a treading water thing than anything.

I think you're underestimating the cap flexibility this trade gave the Leafs. He has a 7M cap hit through 2021.
- RickJames77

(frank)ing Sens...

(frank)ing Sens...
- Steven_Seagull

Having money to spend is a difficult concept for them

I think you're underestimating the cap flexibility this trade gave the Leafs. He has a 7M cap hit through 2021.
- RickJames77

Yeah, the cap space is huge.

It's not that you'll be worse, just that it's more of a treading water thing than anything.
- PepinoPamplemousse

Meh...it was a one year deal.

There is really no downside to it.

Meh...it was a one year deal.

There is really no downside to it.
- stormey

Goddamn it stop being reasonable

We did take on dead weight in Michalek and Cowan. Greening looks like a decent 4th liner and Lindberg is in tough to be in the Marlies lineup. Hopefully the second rounder turns into a decent player because otherwise it's a fairly even deal in my view.
- Rang

The "bad" salaries coming back occur at a time when the Leafs have the cap space.

Getting rid of that contract is a win.

A budget team like Ottawa paying that kind of money for that term for Phaneuf is a lose.

It's not that you'll be worse, just that it's more of a treading water thing than anything.
- PepinoPamplemousse

Treading water is a much better place than the leafs have been in years.

I think you're underestimating the cap flexibility this trade gave the Leafs. He has a 7M cap hit through 2021.
- RickJames77

Fair enough, but in the short term we considerably weaken an already weak defense.

I get that it's all about tanking but I really think fans in Toronto underestimate Phaneuf. Certainly not a #1 d-man but a decent #2 on a middle of the pack team and #3 on a good team. Not his fault Nonis overpaid him.

Back to TV Buzz... anybody watch "The Ranch"

The "bad" salaries coming back occur at a time when the Leafs have the cap space.

Getting rid of that contract is a win.

A budget team like Ottawa paying that kind of money for that term for Phaneuf is a lose.
- Aetherial

Agreed from a salary perspective. From a hockey perspective, not so great a deal.

Treading water is a much better place than the leafs have been in years.
- Fakepartofme

Oh I dunno. That's all they were doing up until, well, last year, really.

Agreed from a salary perspective. From a hockey perspective, not so great a deal.
- Rang

You can't separate the two anymore. Everything MUST be done in the context of the current and future salary structure.

Holly fk b'ys...Gord Downie of the Hip has terminal brain cancer...fksake..
- Fruitcakenipple

NOOOOO!!



Thats so awful!!

They're talking about west point on Leafs Lunch

We all know that if Leafs want to get better.. they need to get a goalie. Bernier is a lost cause. Sparks & Bibeau can't even be consistant in the AHL and it's pretty much their fault right now they're down 0-2 in the 3rd round.

Lupul to Detroit for Pavel and a good pick?
If Pavel leaves for Russia, his 7 million dollar contract is still on the books for Detroit for one more year.
We take on a little more cap hit for only one year?

Now, could a team needing to hit the cap floor offer more or better? Maybe.
But its just an idea
- Fakepartofme

Then watch Lupul be healthy all season and put up 60 pts

Fair enough, but in the short term we considerably weaken an already weak defense.

I get that it's all about tanking but I really think fans in Toronto underestimate Phaneuf. Certainly not a #1 d-man but a decent #2 on a middle of the pack team and #3 on a good team. Not his fault Nonis overpaid him.
- Rang

I agree, but at the same time shipping out a contract like that for a few short term contracts is a win. In the mean time, you will have some younger players come up and play bigger minutes along with the addition of Zaitsev.

I think when you look back at the Phaneuf trade in a few years it'll be huge due to all the contracts that may need to handed out/the possible addition of Stamkos.

Honestly, if Tampa makes the finals, I see them winning the cup. Not sure if that helps Stammers decision to stay or leave.
If he leaves, the leafs will be in the mix, but I feel he'll sign elsewhere for more money.
9-9.5 is the max I would offer Stammer.
- Fakepartofme

As long as stamkos is unsigned, it’s a possibility to come here. Who knows what impact a SC win has on that.

I think a trade like that for lupul could work.

In that trade, i imagine the pick is whatever lupul as a player (contract aside) is worth.

A team like AZ might be a better fit though. They have crappy expiring contracts in vermette and michalek to offer up and may want the caphit.

Then watch Lupul be healthy all season and put up 60 pts
- Arctic_AARDVARK

About as likely as Kate Upton being at my place when I get home tonight wearing heels and lingerie with a martini in hand...

About as likely as Kate Upton being at my place when I get home tonight wearing heels and lingerie with a martini in hand...
- Rang

*fires up the hub*