whenever I read this in a scouting report, I cringe

"His skating could use some improvement"
- homiedclown

only knock on him i can see but yea

if thats the cost to move up to #4 i do it
- MCGUIZZY

It's a slight overpayment but Tk is worth it I do this every day

if thats the cost to move up to #4 i do it
- MCGUIZZY

Bogo for Griffin is a huge step back though.


I'd be nice to shed the salary but is G Reinhart and Tkachuk overwhelmingly > than Bogo and one of the 3 dmen?

Let's go back in history


The pick The Sabres traded away to the jets became Keith Tkachuck

Now the Sabres have the chance to trade up and draft his son

It doesn't sound like destiny to you
- GERBE!!!75PTS

No and they traded the pick that became Tkachuk.

They still had a chance to draft him at 14 but instead took Brad May.

They did however trade the pick away that did become Danny Briere with the same franchise.........

Like Sam he has a very high hockey IQ.

IMO no better than a 3 for a few years but is really just a 4.

Doesn't do anything great but doesn't make many mistakes.

Skates like a chevette in an inch of snow.
- dadeadhead

D
John Tavares was just absolutely terrible at skating and then he got help from this Olympics skating person and he's been improving every year I have no worries that Sam will do the same and go the same route

Bogo for Griffin is a huge step back though.


I'd be nice to shed the salary but is G Reinhart and Tkachuk overwhelmingly > than Bogo and one of the 3 dmen?
- dadeadhead

Maybe...especially if 2 of them are gone by 8 and those were the two you wanted. Or if you believe Tkachuk is all that. I mean there's a very good chance he'll be the best player in that deal but by how much?

Let's go back in history


The pick The Sabres traded away to the jets became Keith Tkachuck

Now the Sabres have the chance to trade up and draft his son

It doesn't sound like destiny to you
- GERBE!!!75PTS

no, we are picking 8th as of now, and he won't be on the board

D
John Tavares was just absolutely terrible at skating and then he got help from this Olympics skating person and he's been improving every year I have no worries that Sam will do the same and go the same route
- GERBE!!!75PTS

But we aren't really talking about Sam though.

No and they traded the pick that became Tkachuk.

They still had a chance to draft him at 14 but instead took Brad May.

They did however trade the pick away that did become Danny Briere with the same franchise.........
- dadeadhead

Well it's time to make history right and take his son and make up for not taking his dad

Bogo for Griffin is a huge step back though.


I'd be nice to shed the salary but is G Reinhart and Tkachuk overwhelmingly > than Bogo and one of the 3 dmen?
- dadeadhead

Its bogo for tkachuk. Griffin is a decent throw in that still has upside. Bogo has plenty of concerns and they may not like or think any of those d-men will make it to them

Maybe...especially if 2 of them are gone by 8 and those were the two you wanted. Or if you believe Tkachuk is all that. I mean there's a very good chance he'll be the best player in that deal but by how much?
- Sabresfan-365

That's kinda my point.

But we aren't really talking about Sam though.
- dadeadhead

Sorry then

Its bogo for tkachuk. Griffin is a decent throw in that still has upside. Bogo has plenty of concerns and they may not like or think any of those d-men will make it to them
- MCGUIZZY

doesn't bogo have a NMC now?

Griffin sucks donkey boners though.


More than Bogo.
- dadeadhead

If they could move Bogo and 8 for Reinhart and 4th, I think they'd do it.

Better prospect(or at least they get the prospect they want) and it clears the cap to go after yandle.

Bogo for Griffin is a huge step back though.


I'd be nice to shed the salary but is G Reinhart and Tkachuk overwhelmingly > than Bogo and one of the 3 dmen?
- dadeadhead

Bogo can be replaced internally. Let's be honest, he's going to miss 20 games, and be brutal for 20-30 more. It's been his whole career.

Just give McCabe, Pysyk, more minutes and add a FA or trade.

If Tkachuk is the real deal, you get the best player

Its bogo for tkachuk. Griffin is a decent throw in that still has upside. Bogo has plenty of concerns and they may not like or think any of those d-men will make it to them
- MCGUIZZY

If it's Bogo for Tkachuk then it's 8 for Reinhart and that's where I kinda wanna vomit.

Well it's time to make history right and take his son and make up for not taking his dad
- GERBE!!!75PTS

how is history working for the sabres drafting marcus foligno for trading away his dad?

I think it's in the Sabres destiny to draft TK

Everything is pointing towards it
- GERBE!!!75PTS

In a perfect world id be trading it for Sami or Cam

no, we are picking 8th as of now, and he won't be on the board
- homiedclown

With the draft in Buffalo I can guarantee we are not going to sit there at 8th IMO

That's kinda my point.
- dadeadhead

I should have finished that thought...does it matter by how much though? I mean if you're getting the best player in the deal, someone who will likely be part of the core for a long time, and you're not switching out any core roster players is that not a deal you'd take?

Bogo can be replaced internally. Let's be honest, he's going to miss 20 games, and be brutal for 20-30 more. It's been his whole career.

Just give McCabe, Pysyk, more minutes and add a FA or trade.

If Tkachuk is the real deal, you get the best player
- sbroads24

Bogo getting moved isn't the issue.

I guess I'd rather it be Bogo and #8 for #4 and something else.

Bogo can be replaced internally. Let's be honest, he's going to miss 20 games, and be brutal for 20-30 more. It's been his whole career.

Just give McCabe, Pysyk, more minutes and add a FA or trade.

If Tkachuk is the real deal, you get the best player
- sbroads24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orYcAiFqknU

how is history working for the sabres drafting marcus foligno for trading away his dad?
- homiedclown

We drafted the wrong foligno we got the underachiever one

I should have finished that thought...does it matter by how much though? I mean if you're getting the best player in the deal, someone who will likely be part of the core for a long time, and you're not switching out any core roster players is that not a deal you'd take?
- Sabresfan-365

But you are because IMO Murray coveted Bogo and Kane.

Bogo getting moved isn't the issue.

I guess I'd rather it be Bogo and #8 for #4 and something else.
- dadeadhead

I'd rather keep bogo and move pysyk plus