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Ya except for maybe 100 games or so of NHL experience and proven ability to defend - neem55
Can't really argue with the first part, but I disagree on the latter with what I've seen of him. Sure he's hard in corners and aggressive, but his shot suppression and contribution is lackluster and his puck-moving ability is average at absolute best. Maybe a switch to the West will help his cause (grindier game and whatnot) and he could prove me and many others wrong with a hard-working summer, but I'm just saying that there's cause for a fair deal of skepticism. At least (most of) you aren't banking on him being a top pairing guy. |
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yes a top 4 d who is just coming into his own for a 5goal prospect and some picks that may never pan out....we dealt from strength for our area of weakness much better than a first for a Ballard type player - onesmallleap
You can paint it that way, too, but McCann is a legit blue-chip prospect who performed commendably as a 19yr old in the NHL. Yeah, he's still very much a prospect, but he's a sort of higher-end offensive talent severely lacking in both Vancouver's team and farm system. |
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i guess you can always find the negative if you look , but to me this is alot like the jovo trade , a hard nosed young d-man we can build around - onesmallleap
I don't know exactly how you mean that. To me, building around refers to core pieces that are invaluable to a team (Toews, Kane, and Keith for example). What are you expecting out of him? |
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Everyone gets so obsessed with our prospects because we never have any
Love this trade - CanuckDon
Me too, another building block at the right age. |
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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I ain't reading through all the posts, so apologies if this has been covered.
I like the move.
We all knew D was the most glaring need. We get a big young rightie.
It is tough giving up JM and a 2nd.
There has got to be more moves coming though. As he is clearly not the puck moving pp Qb we need and seems similar in skillset to tanev, Sbisa, hamhuis; etc.
I like the top 4 much more now.
Elder tanev
Hutton guds
Tryamkin Sbisa
Larsen pedan
Biega
Wouldn't mind seeing Sbisa moved with Hansen for prospect and pick (2nd)
Overall. |
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I ain't reading through all the posts, so apologies if this has been covered.
I like the move.
We all knew D was the most glaring need. We get a big young rightie.
It is tough giving up JM and a 2nd.
There has got to be more moves coming though. As he is clearly not the one we need and seems similar in skillset to tanev, Sbisa, hamhuis; etc.
I like the top 4 much more now.
Elder tanev
Hutton guds
Tryamkin Sbisa
Larsen pedan
Biega
Wouldn't mind seeing Sbisa moved with Hansen for prospect and pick (2nd)
Overall. - dbot
No offense, but you guys are definitely stuck with him Absolutely awful player. |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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No offense, but you guys are definitely stuck with him Absolutely awful player. - MaximumBone
Meh. I thought he played well last year.
Can hit. Can move the puck and can skate.
He's a good to v good 5-6.
I'd just rather see Larsen and/or Pedan in the 6-7 spot |
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onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC Joined: 09.23.2015
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I don't know exactly how you mean that. To me, building around refers to core pieces that are invaluable to a team (Toews, Kane, and Keith for example). What are you expecting out of him? - MaximumBone
i am expecting hjarmasson or Seabrook of coarse with out ever seeing how he fits in with the team |
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onesmallleap
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Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC Joined: 09.23.2015
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i am expecting hjarmasson or Seabrook of coarse with out ever seeing how he fits in with the team - onesmallleap
afterwards Mcdonagh or Suter would be fine |
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Meh. I thought he played well last year.
Can hit. Can move the puck and can skate.
He's a good to v good 5-6.
I'd just rather see Larsen and/or Pedan in the 6-7 spot - dbot
But who's gonna take that contract on? 3mil for a guy that's (arguably) a 5-6 Dman. A bad team isn't going to give up good picks for him (even with Hansen) and a good team wouldn't want that much tied up in a depth Dman. Retaining half salary might help, but still, this is a bottom pairing Dman at best. Those usually don't get much (Gryba brought a 4th and sh!t prospect), but I guess there's always the possibility of one GM seeing him good enough to justify it. |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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But who's gonna take that contract on? 3mil for a guy that's (arguably) a 5-6 Dman. A bad team isn't going to give up good picks for him (even with Hansen) and a good team wouldn't want that much tied up in a depth Dman. Retaining half salary might help, but still, this is a bottom pairing Dman at best. Those usually don't get much (Gryba brought a 4th and sh!t prospect), but I guess there's always the possibility of one GM seeing him good enough to justify it. - MaximumBone
I dunno, Edmonton? |
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Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Benning fighting the good fight! |
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Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face. Joined: 01.09.2006
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This moves Sbisa out of the top 4.
This guy is a the new Juice. This guy is a guy we can build around.
Good Trade. |
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Good trade
Obviously were picking Dubois to replace mccann and probably signing a winger. With sutter horvat Dubois GranLund and hank why on earth wouldn't we trade from a position of potential strength to make our weakest position better with a huge strong 24 year old. I don't get why people are upset. Good deal. You cam trade Raymond foreveryone |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I love this , we have Leaf fans , Oiler fans and Colorado fans giving us tips on rebuilding - VANTEL
Now that is rich ππππ» |
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Feeling Glucky?
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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I couldn't think of a more deserving fan base.
I hope you guys continue to get what you deserve out of Benning. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I couldn't think of a more deserving fan base.
I hope you guys continue to get what you deserve out of Benning. - Feeling Glucky?
Well spoken. 48yrs u deserve everything. GL with another 1OA.
Hope u see a 4th rd playoff in your lifetime. |
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steve362
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Location: St. John's, NF Joined: 07.07.2010
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The trade makes sense to me although I think you may have overpaid a little. It all but confirms that you will be selecting Dubois in the draft, who I think can be a huge star in our league! Dubois's hockey IQ is through the roof.
Nucks seem to be good with prospects on the wing with Virtanen, Boesser, Gaunce and once Dubois gets drafted that will move Granlund to the wing where he belongs IMO.
You can look forward to a Center group of Dubois, Horvat and Sutter for years to come and there's nothing wrong with that! |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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The trade makes sense to me although I think you may have overpaid a little. It all but confirms that you will be selecting Dubois in the draft, who I think can be a huge star in our league! Dubois's hockey IQ is through the roof.
Nucks seem to be good with prospects on the wing with Virtanen, Boesser, Gaunce and once Dubois gets drafted that will move Granlund to the wing where he belongs IMO.
You can look forward to a Center group of Dubois, Horvat and Sutter for years to come and there's nothing wrong with that! - steve362
A saner outlook for sureππ»
Too much can be made about potential from picks but there is only 18 skaters & 2 goalies on a roster. Ppl sweat too much over a trade without looking into the design. |
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Location: Coral Springs, FL Joined: 08.21.2007
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I like this trade. 24 year old dman who's played 5 seasons/309 NHL games and has 346 PIMS.
That ain't easy to find. He paid too much but we have to expect that from JB & Co. just going to have to live with it as long as JB is our GM. - bloatedmosquito
Will you like it at 5mil per, because after next season that's what he wants. I like the deal for us.
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Will you like it at 5mil per, because after next season that's what he wants. I like the deal for us. - PanthersGoal
What he wants & what he gets r differnt stories.
Up to him to play well to get paid well.
Its called incentive.
We don't face cap issues.
The deal for you is simple...
Salary cap room & a prospect & picks. No guarantees but makes sense also. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Well my take on trading down is done for.
Adding EG means we will see prolly 1-2 UFA F's signed.
5OA BPA looks a certainty. Dubois or Tkachuk look like our future.
I see JB mining the draft in later rounds for a sleeper.
In JB We Trustππ»π |
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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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Seriously? I know we need more offense but trading our best Dman sounds asinine to me. Especially for an underachieving Russian who on most night looks like he doesnt give two shyts. - vancity787
(instead of trading McCann we'd need to move our first (5OA) and a 2nd for Drouin, Tanev straight up for Yak)
Then with Yak and Drouin we have lines of
Sedin Sedin Sutter
Drouin Bo Yak
Baertschi Vey Hansen
Gaunce Granlund Etem
Dorsett
Edler Gudbranson
Hutton Hamhuis/ ufa
Tryamkin Bartkowski
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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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The trade makes sense to me although I think you may have overpaid a little. It all but confirms that you will be selecting Dubois in the draft, who I think can be a huge star in our league! Dubois's hockey IQ is through the roof.
Nucks seem to be good with prospects on the wing with Virtanen, Boesser, Gaunce and once Dubois gets drafted that will move Granlund to the wing where he belongs IMO.
You can look forward to a Center group of Dubois, Horvat and Sutter for years to come and there's nothing wrong with that! - steve362
why isn't this guy like the other leafs fans?? i don't think i've come across a leaf fan like steve362 on here before.
he actually posted non troll material. and complimented the Nux. Is this some kind of joke?
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kaptaan
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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Kassian, Clendening, Jensen... Gimme a break. A bunch of AHLers, a couple B level prospects and a handful of draft picks which have a 0.5% chance of becoming NHLers for a potential top line centre in Sutter, a top pairing d-man and solid NHL depth players. All while being able to draft some great prospects including a franchise goalie. Future is bright out here on the west coast in the best city in the world. - hankthetank
I beg to differ...
Have you been to San Diego? |
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