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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
Bennng is an NHL dinasour and he'll be fired by the end of next season when they finish out of the playoffs in a bottom ten draft position.


- LeftCoaster


and aqulini will hire the next guy selling the snake oil of a rebuild on the fly and playoffs next year...
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

May 26 @ 2:27 PM ET
If Oilers made this trade..your thoughts?
- DDM-Coga


Who would be their McCann is my question?
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

May 26 @ 2:29 PM ET
go on...
- DDM-Coga


Itsjustarash
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 08.29.2013

May 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
I'm not saying that Gudbransen wasn't someone that you didn't need, he is still an NHL defenseman and won't go the path of Cam Barker for example but the price you paid for him was a mistake. Someone up top saw EG as a big top 4 shut down guy when he is only a tough 3rd pairing guy. Either that or undervalued McCann. You gave up a 3rd/4th line 19 year old center who could still develop into a top 6 forward PLUS a second round pick and 4th for 5th swap.

That was a steep price as EG is no longer even close to worth the 3rd overall pick he was drafted for. If McCann improves then you horribly lose the deal, if he doesn't you still lose but at least it was negligible.

I think this became a case of over valuing an asset you desperately wanted or undervaluing an asset you had a few of. Maybe this will turn out better for you but right now I don't see it.

- Steven_Dean


Agreed that it was a steep price to pay but it was soooooo painful watching teams steamroll us in our building night after night with no push back whatsoever.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 2:52 PM ET
Gudbranson is better than Sbisa for sure. But Benning is still in way over his head as a GM. Another trade where he overpays for a player he loves.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 2:53 PM ET
Agreed that it was a steep price to pay but it was soooooo painful watching teams steamroll us in our building night after night with no push back whatsoever.
- Itsjustarash

Then sign Luke Schenn or a similar dman as a UFA....keep McCann and 33rd
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 26 @ 2:55 PM ET
Then sign Luke Schenn or a similar dman as a UFA....keep McCann and 33rd
- Nucker101


Erik Gryba
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 2:59 PM ET
What do the stats say?
- twiztedmike

PepinoPamplemousse
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 01.18.2009

May 26 @ 3:00 PM ET
Gudbranson is better than Sbisa for sure. But Benning is still in way over his head as a GM. Another trade where he overpays for a player he loves.
- Nucker101


When it comes to the stuff he's supposed to be good at, their numbers are almost identical.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 3:00 PM ET
go on...
- DDM-Coga

I'm old, give me a break...
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 26 @ 3:00 PM ET
Then sign Luke Schenn or a similar dman as a UFA....keep McCann and 33rd
- Nucker101


Jared Cowen when hes bought out
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:01 PM ET
Jared Cowen when hes bought out
- DDM-Coga

Needs moar Tinordi
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 26 @ 3:01 PM ET
I'm old, give me a break...
- LeftCoaster



Dont tease me Bro
PepinoPamplemousse
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 01.18.2009

May 26 @ 3:01 PM ET
Then sign Luke Schenn or a similar dman as a UFA....keep McCann and 33rd
- Nucker101


Right?

Not like there are going to be dozens of teams knocking on the door to sign Schenn.

You can find big, physical D with mediocre at best hockey-sense all over the damn place. They're EVERYWHERE.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 3:02 PM ET
Gudbranson is better than Sbisa for sure. But Benning is still in way over his head as a GM. Another trade where he overpays for a player he loves.
- Nucker101

I've missed you
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 26 @ 3:03 PM ET
Needs moar Tinordi
- eichiefs9


Schenn Cowen
Tinordi Gudbranson
Sbisa Guenin

All Grit D Core
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

May 26 @ 3:03 PM ET
Nothing like the leafs ,the leafs had nothing when the cap was implemented.Yet they chose to keep going for it,by trading high picks .The Nucks have kept the best of their youth and are using their old core to develop their next one .

Them trying to keep a moderate team around the twins,while they salt the best of their youth .Is far better than trying to tank with these two ,and provides a winning culture for the kids to come into.Rather than throwing 18 and 19 year olds into the fire and hoping it works

- top shelf 15


The Nucks keep trading away prospects and youth trying to be better now instead of rebuilding the team. The only reason why the Sedins (the core) are still in VAN is because you can't move them. What team wants to take on those contracts? And yes, they'll have to be traded together.
Winning culture?? They were terrible last year! The same team that went 3 games in a row without scoring a goal.
I'm not sure your statement makes sense.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 26 @ 3:08 PM ET
Purely out of curiosity....why is he a d-bag?
- eichiefs9


Does it matter?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:09 PM ET
Does it matter?
- The-O-G

Does anything matter? Do we even really exist?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:09 PM ET
Schenn Cowen
Tinordi Gudbranson
Sbisa Guenin
Forbort

All Grit D Core

- DDM-Coga

fixed, Forbort can't even make a fake team.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 26 @ 3:10 PM ET
Does anything matter? Do we even really exist?
- eichiefs9



Cizikas manslaughter conviction during a game of rugby matters...
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 26 @ 3:10 PM ET
fixed, Forbort can't even make a fake team.
- eichiefs9


Do the blues beat the sharks with that grit core? My take...yes
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:11 PM ET
Cizikas manslaughter conviction during a game of rugby matters...
- DeflatedPucks

No, it was first degree murder. He literally took out a machete and hacked six people to death in the middle of the field in front of a crowd of stunned onlookers.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
Do the blues beat the sharks with that grit core? My take...yes
- DDM-Coga

The real questions are: how much heart do they have? and how much good locker room guy do they have?
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

May 26 @ 3:12 PM ET
Schenn Cowen
Tinordi Gudbranson
Sbisa Guenin

All Grit D Core

- DDM-Coga


Brian Burke just had an accident in his shorts.
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