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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 4:50 PM ET
Which would be great if he was actually a top 4 d man.
- BINGO!


R the Canes on TV? Or just a rumour😂😂
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 26 @ 4:52 PM ET
15 points in 17 playoff games this year but, yeah, who wants that guy, right?
- BINGO!


Let's not start this again
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 4:52 PM ET
It makes me so mad that I shlt myself actually. Come on man, no need to waste characters on the literal meaning. I 'dislike' when people write off these kids is all I am saying. It is always as though the top 30 kids get a look, and if there is no generational talent, or 3 kids who were once given exceptional status, the draft is considered "weak" which doesn't make sense to me. I never sell draft picks short, and don't think you should sell these kids short either.
- Codes1087


Simple....

I don't get attached to prospects. I prefer proactivity foremost.
If JB sees no fit or future here for a prospect trade him is fine.
The hand he was dealt was a mess.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

May 26 @ 4:52 PM ET
Let's not start this again
- Makita



Don't tell me you got rid of Bingo
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 4:53 PM ET
After the top 12-15 there is very lil RHD to pick.
No impact C's or snipers. I don't see anything to be had that helps us.
JB has enough chances on the go as is & has a draft plan.
I'll wait to see what next years roster looks like when the dust settles.

- Nighthawk

everything is needed to help an organization with a shallow prospect pool, this train of thought is head shaking?

You draft and you draft and you draft some more until you hit a few gems and suddenly you have depth that can be traded to get you over the hump to that next level.

You know the worst thing that's happened to the Canucks is those God damned Sedin extensions, they're just ruining any chance the team has at rebuilding properly! The owner and the GM are just hanging on for dear life to squeeze every single frickin ounce out of those two.

The same old story still apply's, the Canucks have NO SECONDARY SCORING and they're still gonna suck next year. Which is fine by me, but they threw away a talented young player with two years of development and a second round pick, that may turn into something, to essentially roll out the same team. Which finished third last in 2015/16.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 26 @ 4:55 PM ET
I'm onboard with drafting and developing, I'm not onboard with spending assets to improve your team in one area and making it worse in another.

My vision for this team is three four five years down the road, that's the way I see things….not in the immediate like you're saying.

- LeftCoaster


I don't think management has 4 or 5 years but I understand where you are coming from. Hopefully Gundbranson will prove people wrong next year
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 26 @ 4:55 PM ET
Don't tell me you got rid of Bingo
- hankthetank


Still here.

Look I'm not trying to stir poop up, I just don't see any semblance of a plan and, if there is one, nobody has been able to explain it to me in a way that actually makes sense.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 26 @ 4:55 PM ET
Simple....

I don't get attached to lrospects. I prefer proactivity foremost.
If JB sees no fit or future here for a prospect trade him is fine.

- Nighthawk


no prospects equal no future though. Look at the last 5 teams to have won the stanley cup. All have drafted well, and have been patient with developing their prospects. I am not saying that trading isn't necassary, because it is, but those teams have all drafted well, and drafted well often, and have not given up on those prized prospects. There has to be a middle ground for keeping draft picks and developing those prospects, and trading for the right pieces that your organization needs. Drafter Jim should be focusing on doing what he does best, which is drafting and identifying young talent.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 26 @ 4:56 PM ET
Still here.

Look I'm not trying to stir poop up, I just don't see any semblance of a plan and, if there is one, nobody has been able to explain it to me in a way that actually makes sense.

- BINGO!


yes you are. The only time we see your smug posts are the day of or the day after Benning has made some sort of move.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 4:56 PM ET
Oilers say yes😜
- Nighthawk

The Canucks had the same amount of wins the Oilers had last year, 31, and they had a worse goal differential, -42 to -52.

The current Canucks are worse than the Edmonton Oilers, put that on for size and think about it for a moment.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 4:57 PM ET
everything is needed to help an organization with a shallow prospect pool, this train of thought is head shaking?

You draft and you draft and you draft some more until you hit a few gems and suddenly you have depth that can be traded to get you over the hump to that next level.

You know the worst thing that's happened to the Canucks is those God damned Sedin extensions, they're just ruining any chance the team has at rebuilding properly! The owner and the GM are just hanging on for dear life to squeeze every single frickin ounce out of those two.

The same old story still apply's, the Canucks have NO SECONDARY SCORING and they're still gonna suck next year. Which is fine by me, but they threw away a talented young player with two years of development and a second round pick, that may turn into something, to essentially roll out the same team. Which finished third last in 2015/16.

- LeftCoaster


Its no train of thought but is my opinion that idc much fir the later talent past the top 15. We added many pieces & i want to see who rises above. UFA's r stop gap or mey additions. Secondary scoring starts with poor offense from the D & JB has added some potential. The PP sucked & can also improve.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 26 @ 4:58 PM ET
The Canucks had the same amount of wins the Oilers had last year, 31, and they had a worse goal differential, -42 to -52.

The current Canucks are worse than the Edmonton Oilers, put that on for size and think about it for a moment.

- LeftCoaster



For some reason, this post makes me sad
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 26 @ 4:59 PM ET
Yost wouldn't know a puck if it bounced off his (frank)ing skull. Someone should tell that clown that coaches use players differently and some guys actually get used in their end zone face offs against the other teams best.

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
everything is needed to help an organization with a shallow prospect pool, this train of thought is head shaking?

You draft and you draft and you draft some more until you hit a few gems and suddenly you have depth that can be traded to get you over the hump to that next level.

You know the worst thing that's happened to the Canucks is those God damned Sedin extensions, they're just ruining any chance the team has at rebuilding properly! The owner and the GM are just hanging on for dear life to squeeze every single frickin ounce out of those two.

The same old story still apply's, the Canucks have NO SECONDARY SCORING and they're still gonna suck next year. Which is fine by me, but they threw away a talented young player with two years of development and a second round pick, that may turn into something, to essentially roll out the same team. Which finished third last in 2015/16.

- LeftCoaster


Nobody thought Justin Faulk was anything special when he was drafted in the 2nd round, the 9TH defenseman drafted in the 2010 draft, but here we are.

Where would the Canes be if they had traded that pick for Cam Barker in 2009?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
no prospects equal no future though. Look at the last 5 teams to have won the stanley cup. All have drafted well, and have been patient with developing their prospects. I am not saying that trading isn't necassary, because it is, but those teams have all drafted well, and drafted well often, and have not given up on those prized prospects. There has to be a middle ground for keeping draft picks and developing those prospects, and trading for the right pieces that your organization needs. Drafter Jim should be focusing on doing what he does best, which is drafting and identifying young talent.
- Codes1087


Yes well the Hawks sucked so bad & got Kane.
Its unfortunate we never had a 1OA.
There r no Doughtys or Keiths or OELs or Ekblads around.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
because we are far enough past the 2015 draft to be able to label it 'weak' after 1 year?
- Codes1087



I was ready to make that claim after McDavid had played a week...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
Brutal trade. Terrible asset managment by Benning. He almost paid as much as Calgary did to acquire Hamilton. 3 teams minimum have way to many Dman, Anaheim, Columbus & Minnesota at least that need to address before the expansion draft.

Gubranson has played 309 NHL regular season games. Putting up 11 goals 32 assists for 43 points & is -49. He has 5 full seasons of NHL experience & played as Florida's #4 last season based on TOI/GP. Was the #1 penalty killing Dman for a team that had the 24th best penalty killing!

In my 35 years of running hockey pools & being a hockey freak this is the most inept management I have ever seen. Linden & Benning have set the Canucks back close to a decade.

I have already cancelled my 2 8K+ tickets for next season

- striker777


Oh we remember you Stiker, the Canucks will be lost without your revenue/ hurt feelings
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 26 @ 5:01 PM ET
Biega is signed to a 1 way contract, which is unfortunate because I don't see him seeing much ice. I think Benning will make many more moves, and will try and acquire some picks in the process. (I hope)
- Codes1087


A one-way or two-way contract doesn't have any bearing on waiver eligibility, just whether or not the player receives the same salary in the AHL as in the NHL, or whether being demoted also results in a pay cut.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 26 @ 5:02 PM ET
yes you are. The only time we see your smug posts are the day of or the day after Benning has made some sort of move.
- Codes1087


Because they're usually awful.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 5:02 PM ET
The Canucks had the same amount of wins the Oilers had last year, 31, and they had a worse goal differential, -42 to -52.

The current Canucks are worse than the Edmonton Oilers, put that on for size and think about it for a moment.

- LeftCoaster



14 teams missed the playoffs.
We had massive injuries to a few key vets when not enough depth to overcome it.
When Sutter & Edler went down in the same game we were done.
At the TDL we were sitting in a playoff position.

Ok i thought about it for a moment.
Anyone can do a post mortem.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 26 @ 5:03 PM ET
yes you are. The only time we see your smug posts are the day of or the day after Benning has made some sort of move.
- Codes1087



This made me laugh for some reason
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 26 @ 5:03 PM ET
Still here.

Look I'm not trying to stir poop up, I just don't see any semblance of a plan and, if there is one, nobody has been able to explain it to me in a way that actually makes sense.

- BINGO!


The plan is pretty hard to see.

Basically, it's try to fill the seats at all costs.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 26 @ 5:03 PM ET
I bet that looks great on a resume!
- golfingsince

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
The plan is pretty hard to see.

Basically, it's try to fill the seats at all costs.

- golfingsince


That's what the Canes tried to do with Rutherford as GM and... well... now they might move. Okay, hopefully they move.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
Its no train of thought but is my opinion that idc much fir the later talent past the top 15. We added many pieces & i want to see who rises above. UFA's r stop gap or mey additions. Secondary scoring starts with poor offense from the D & JB has added some potential. The PP sucked & can also improve.
- Nighthawk

This antiquated thought that everything past the top picks is meaningless is why the Oilers sucked for the past ten years and why good teams like the Kings, Hawks, Sharks and Blues and have loads of depth.

All those teams drafted so many players outside the top 15 picks that have helped them get to where they are today. Hell even the Canucks management of past can be credited with drafting outside the top 15 picks and it helped them be successful.
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