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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 4:05 PM ET
I'm onboard with drafting and developing, I'm not onboard with spending assets to improve your team in one area and making it worse in another.

My vision for this team is three four five years down the road, that's the way I see things….not in the immediate like you're saying.

- LeftCoaster


This one area u speak of is needed to be addressed.
U want the Oiler rebuild plan of all youth?
Idk if i want to watch losing ad nauseum for 5+ yrs.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 26 @ 4:08 PM ET
Anf yet all the JB critics think any deal traded future HOFers or top 6 players.
Overreaction about nothing much.

- Nighthawk


No, they think that he's made a bunch of trades that don't add any value.

He's overpaying for mediocre at best talent. That's what we're saying, and it's going to hurt in the long term.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

May 26 @ 4:08 PM ET
I give up. Good luck next couple years boys. Everything is cool with the 'Nucks.
- Deeps27


No everything is not cool. The team sucks and Benning has made some mistakes. He has also done a lot in the 2 years that he has been here and he inherited a mess from the previous management groups. poopty contracts and a ton of NTC's. I am giving Benning some time to try and build something here. You can't turn over an entire roster in 2 years. It takes time. If we are still in the draft lottery in 3 years then I will be the first to slam Benning but for now I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt as he trys to reshape things.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 26 @ 4:09 PM ET
This one area u speak of is needed to be addressed.
U want the Oiler rebuild plan of all youth?
Idk if i want to watch losing ad nauseum for 5+ yrs.

- Nighthawk



Nobody wants to, but sometimes it's necessary.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 4:09 PM ET
Haha - I cut and pasted. They are all quick to point out the guys the Canucks traded flaws, but seem to forget about who they got back.

For the record -I'd be very happy to have a guy like Gudbranson on the Leafs 3rd pairing, but not at the price that was paid.

- Deeps27


Well they have the picks so why not.
12 picks in one draft is overkill.
An excuse to call it a teardown is all when its a TANK.
Excuses hide lies enough said.

JB stated his plan & is executing it. Its nothing surprising either.
Least the man doesn't min e words & wants to win & I'll take that any day.
I say WD is going to be scrutinized heavily.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

May 26 @ 4:11 PM ET
Nobody wants to, but sometimes it's necessary.
- BINGO!



And sometimes it's not. No sure fire way to becoming a good NHL team these days. If it were as simple as tanking for 5 years then becoming a contender then everyone would do it.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
No, they think that he's made a bunch of trades that don't add any value.

He's overpaying for mediocre at best talent. That's what we're saying, and it's going to hurt in the long term.

- BINGO!


IMO he traded players & picks he sees no prospects of being the future.
He busts his ass burning the midnight oil & signed many UFA's already.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
We could have paid our first rounder and 33 OA for Griffin Reinhart.....
- Codes1087


neither would be the right answer
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 26 @ 4:13 PM ET
Well they have the picks so why not.
12 picks in one draft is overkill.
An excuse to call it a teardown is all when its a TANK.
Excuses hide lies enough said.

JB stated bis llan & is ex cuting it. Its nothing ng surprising either.
Least the man doesn't min e words & wants to win & I'll take that any day.
I say WD is going to be scrutinized heavily.

- Nighthawk


I feel bad for Willie. Pretty hard to win when your handed a monstrous pile of turds to work with.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

May 26 @ 4:14 PM ET
I feel bad for Willie. Pretty hard to win when your handed a monstrous pile of turds to work with.
- BINGO!



I'm amazed they even managed to win a single game this season.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 4:16 PM ET
This one area u speak of is needed to be addressed.
U want the Oiler rebuild plan of all youth?
Idk if i want to watch losing ad nauseum for 5+ yrs.

- Nighthawk

No I've repeatedly said I don't want to rid the lineup of all veteran players, where do you see that I said trade anyone and everyone?

I want Benning to stop trading away second round picks that may turn into something in the future. To me having Gudbranson now is simply meaningless, the team may be slightly better but they still suck, this is not a very good team!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 4:16 PM ET
Nobody wants to, but sometimes it's necessary.
- BINGO!


We r not a bottom 5 team year in & year out.
No reason to change stripes & throw in the towel now.
We need depth as in 1-2 UFA's. Send the mids to Utica & keep hunting down more parts to find some answers. Idc tbh cuz its a hit n miss style & what we try doing.
Nothing has happened to say we mortgaged our future.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 26 @ 4:16 PM ET
Cup rings are Cup rings man; a guy who gets laid once when he's 18 but never again isn't a virgin, but a 40 year old who's never been laid is. Care to share your franchise success?
- Deeps27



Toronto cups when you only had to win 2 rounds are more comparable to a handjob than actual sex.....
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

May 26 @ 4:17 PM ET
Brutal trade. Terrible asset managment by Benning. He almost paid as much as Calgary did to acquire Hamilton. 3 teams minimum have way to many Dman, Anaheim, Columbus & Minnesota at least that need to address before the expansion draft.

Gubranson has played 309 NHL regular season games. Putting up 11 goals 32 assists for 43 points & is -49. He has 5 full seasons of NHL experience & played as Florida's #4 last season based on TOI/GP. Was the #1 penalty killing Dman for a team that had the 24th best penalty killing!

In my 35 years of running hockey pools & being a hockey freak this is the most inept management I have ever seen. Linden & Benning have set the Canucks back close to a decade.

I have already cancelled my 2 8K+ tickets for next season
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 4:17 PM ET
No, they think that he's made a bunch of trades that don't add any value.

He's overpaying for mediocre at best talent. That's what we're saying, and it's going to hurt in the long term.

- BINGO!

Exactly….that's my entire point with this whole thing. When I look at where the team is now and where I want it to be down the road, this is a senseless move.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 4:18 PM ET
I'm amazed they even managed to win a single game this season.
- hankthetank


At least 1 more than Atlanta😜
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

May 26 @ 4:21 PM ET



Sedin Sedin Virtanen
Boeser Horvat Baertschi
Hansen Sutter Granlund
Etem Gaunce Dorsett

+Tkachuk or Dubois

Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Tryamkin Sbisa
Larsen

The future is bright! That lineup could win a Cup and that doesn't even include the huge free agent signings Benning will pull off in the coming years!!
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 26 @ 4:22 PM ET
Exactly….that's my entire point with this whole thing. When I look at where the team is now and where I want it to be down the road, this is a senseless move.
- LeftCoaster


Yep. He's adding pieces that have little to no chance of being worth more than what he traded to acquire them, at a time when the team is nowhere lose to being a contender.

You can afford to spend when you're in a position to make a run, but they're not. They're not even close, but he keeps acting like they are.
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

May 26 @ 4:24 PM ET
Some of the big comments coming from these posts over the year was

Top four Dmen don't grow on trees

We don't have the parts to trade for a top 4 Dman

Florida would never trade Gadbrundson

McCann needs to be sent down , he is not ready.


It doesn't matter what JB does. There are a group that hate everything he does and a group that love everything he does. .

- VANTEL

Preachhhhh
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 26 @ 4:24 PM ET
We r not a bottom 5 team year in & year out.
No reason to change stripes & throw in the towel now.
We need depth as in 1-2 UFA's. Send the mids to Utica & keep hunting down more parts to find some answers. Idc tbh cuz its a hit n miss style & what we try doing.
Nothing has happened to say we mortgaged our future.

- Nighthawk


This is where people are divided, they see a team that finished 27th in the league, whereas us that followed them know the ridiculous amount of injuries to key players. The team is too good to bottom out without a fire sale, and that isnt going to work with the owners or bandwagon fanbase. They are trying to improve with younger players which is hard.

Without these moves, they finished 10th in the west and an old roster, or they make these trades and finish 10th with young players. Honestly, with a plug or two up front like an Eriksson or Bouwer on shorter contracts and it buys time for Boeser, the 5th pick and other young guys to develop. The team is too good to be bad, and not a true contender, its unfortunate but at least they are getting younger and can improve
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 4:24 PM ET
Cup rings are Cup rings man; a guy who gets laid once when he's 18 but never again isn't a virgin, but a 40 year old who's never been laid is. Care to share your franchise success?
- Deeps27


48yrs of disgusting futility & counting.
U were not alive when 4/6 teams made the playoffs.
Since hockey came outta the stone age u still wanna go back there.
No cup finals & 2 1OA to 3 cup finals & no 1OA ever.
Hmm idk i think its a no brainer that success in TO is how full the owners bank account is. Thats the only stat that makes the Leafs relevant.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

May 26 @ 4:25 PM ET
Yep. He's adding pieces that have little to no chance of being worth more than what he traded to acquire them, at a time when the team is nowhere lose to being a contender.

You can afford to spend when you're in a position to make a run, but they're not. They're not even close, but he keeps acting like they are.

- BINGO!



It's not clear if you, a Hurricanes fan from Saksatchewan, thinks Benning is doing a good job. Could you please let us know how you feel and how bad the Canucks are? Thanks.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 26 @ 4:25 PM ET
You couldn't have just quoted mine?



- BINGO!


Quit being such a quote slut.
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

May 26 @ 4:26 PM ET
Sedin Sedin Virtanen
Boeser Horvat Baertschi
Hansen Sutter Granlund
Etem Gaunce Dorsett

+Tkachuk or Dubois

Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Tryamkin Sbisa
Larsen

The future is bright! That lineup could win a Cup and that doesn't even include the huge free agent signings Benning will pull off in the coming years!!

- hankthetank

Except Sven plays left and boeser right. Hansen plays right.. Granlund will play center over Gaunce. And I think management is banking on Larsen being a puck mover on the 3rd pair
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 4:26 PM ET
Brutal trade. Terrible asset managment by Benning. He almost paid as much as Calgary did to acquire Hamilton. 3 teams minimum have way to many Dman, Anaheim, Columbus & Minnesota at least that need to address before the expansion draft.

Gubranson has played 309 NHL regular season games. Putting up 11 goals 32 assists for 43 points & is -49. He has 5 full seasons of NHL experience & played as Florida's #4 last season based on TOI/GP. Was the #1 penalty killing Dman for a team that had the 24th best penalty killing!

In my 35 years of running hockey pools & being a hockey freak this is the most inept management I have ever seen. Linden & Benning have set the Canucks back close to a decade.

I have already cancelled my 2 8K+ tickets for next season

- striker777


No need to rush into helping 3 cap crunch teams.
Salary cap space allows us to wait & squeeze deals.
Prime position. RHD r scarce.
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