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Please stop man. And stop pretending Toronto isn't a far superior city - MCGUIZZY
 Vancouver is a superior city too. Why doesn't he go play for them..... Stupid argument
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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GERBE!!!75PTS
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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Yeah I don't understand why every UFA discussion turns out into some city vs. city pissing matchup. Stamkos will make a choice, at some point, soon, and we have nothing to do with it. Maybe he'll choose the hometown highlights, maybe not. - Not_Yan
Just a question has a person that's from their hometown ever lived up to their potential ? It seems like they all fail |
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Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes. Joined: 04.19.2013
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He's probably reading this right now and scratching Buffalo off of his list. - Streit2ThePoint
Really? Whoa
BONJOUR STEVEN PLEASE COME TO MONTREAL |
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CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: on Bored, NY Joined: 12.26.2008
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Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Murray's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make an offseason move.
Eichel, Reinhart, O'Reilly, Ristolainen are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know O'Reilly's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Russ Brandon is a numbers guy, and 7 mil 7 years from now will be looking pretty good. Nobody's deal is a favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Girgensons into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness, even though he sucked donkey balls last season.
Pysyk, Ennis, and Franson are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA/RFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Pysyk sucking for the last 2 years, Franson getting a reputation of being slow, and (Tin-ler) Ennis being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Ennis jersey.
As far as young talent at forward goes, Kane, Fasching, McCabe are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Guhle, Bailey, Baptiste to get another team interested. Possible, though Guhle seems like he's got a future here.
Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Carlo Colaiacovo to temporarily fill the gap until Gorges and Franson are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.
We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Murray overpays for players he wants. In fact, who really doesn't anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 15 / 23 / 90 / 55. You can have Pysyk. Twice. |
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Streit2ThePoint
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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Really? Whoa
BONJOUR STEVEN PLEASE COME TO MONTREAL  - Not_Yan
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GERBE!!!75PTS
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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Vancouver is a superior city too. Why doesn't he go play for them..... Stupid argument - bluengold12
That would actually be a really beautiful place to go too bad they don't have a team though |
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.
Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.
Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.
As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.
Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.
We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice. - CaptainRivet
this needs a makeover
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You need to do your research . Buffalo was just named #1 vacation destination in America. Was in Toronto last weekend . The city has lost its charm . All the High rises blackout the sun in what used to be an amazing downtown . Met with old friends that all used to live there and we all agreed . No desire to move back there now. Just another big ugly metropolis with the urban blight. - Maximum Signal
Sillyness - you are talking about downtown core which is amazing place to have fun.....go to midtown or uptown and you have everything you want without the high sky rises.
Toronto is an amazing city and always listed as one of the top cities in the world. |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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Maybe keep JVR but Loupl is hurting you guys in the cap if you want to be big players. - bluengold12
I would rather have those two then the fossil and molasses |
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stashu
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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By playing in Pittsburgh or being Crosby?
So let's say Crosby gets endorsements from Primanti Brothers. I would think if he played for, lets say Philadelphia, he could get the same endorsements from a Gino's or Pats - Streit2ThePoint
There's no denying that Buffalo likely doesn't have a ton of high-end endorsement opportunities, but NYC does, all Canadian markets claim to, yet there are no Leafs or Canadiens on this list (from 2014)
http://sportschatplace.co...ement-earnings-in-the-nhl
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CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: on Bored, NY Joined: 12.26.2008
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this needs a makeover - homiedclown
I'll work on it |
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Sillyness - you are talking about downtown core which is amazing place to have fun.....go to midtown or uptown and you have everything you want without the high sky rises.
Toronto is an amazing city and always listed as one of the top cities in the world. - Cooshie
There's a lot to do in a lot of cities that won't matter. The chicks are hotter in Tampa then Buffalo and Toronto combined. Could use that argument. Or how about the gas prices? Or the Tim Hortons per capita? |
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Maybe keep JVR but Loupl is hurting you guys in the cap if you want to be big players. - bluengold12
Lupul sucks but he comes off the books in 2 yrs.....most teams have a bad contract or 2 or 3. |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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this needs a makeover - homiedclown
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MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Bay Area, CA Joined: 06.20.2012
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Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.
Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.
Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.
As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.
Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.
We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice. - CaptainRivet
Nolan Pratt had a tiny head
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Streit2ThePoint
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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There's no denying that Buffalo likely doesn't have a ton of high-end endorsement opportunities, but NYC does, all Canadian markets claim to, yet there are no Leafs or Canadiens on this list (from 2014)
http://sportschatplace.co...ement-earnings-in-the-nhl - stashu
But see most of their endorsements are national brands, not like city specific deals which is what I thought SameOld was referring to. That Stamkos would be getting millions off of Toronto specific endorsements... |
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Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.11.2008
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Eat snacky s'mores - Khmylev
East Side Marios could become East Side Stamkos . Maybe they will name the dome after him ! The Stamkos Centre. Shoeless Joe's Becomes Shoeless Steves . The possibilities are endless.
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There's a lot to do in a lot of cities that won't matter. The chicks are hotter in Tampa then Buffalo and Toronto combined. Could use that argument. Or how about the gas prices? Or the Tim Hortons per capita?  - bluengold12
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There's no denying that Buffalo likely doesn't have a ton of high-end endorsement opportunities, but NYC does, all Canadian markets claim to, yet there are no Leafs or Canadiens on this list (from 2014)
http://sportschatplace.co...ement-earnings-in-the-nhl - stashu
I bet you Eichel is on that list in a few years. All ready has solid endorsement deals in just his first season |
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Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.11.2008
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But see most of their endorsements are national brands, not like city specific deals which is what I thought SameOld was referring to. That Stamkos would be getting millions off of Toronto specific endorsements... - Streit2ThePoint
He could sing the jingle for Pizza Nova instead of Alfie Zappacosta!
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He could sing the jingle for Pizza Nova instead of Alfie Zappacosta! - Maximum Signal
Or that disgusting Boston Pizza I see every time I go to Canada... |
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Moulson.
O'Riley signed an extension here and Kane said he wanted to come here. - bluengold12
So 1 guy signed as UFA, exactly. And you can keep Moulson - BLAH!!
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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But see most of their endorsements are national brands, not like city specific deals which is what I thought SameOld was referring to. That Stamkos would be getting millions off of Toronto specific endorsements... - Streit2ThePoint
I'm agreeing with you - the endorsement angle is pretty nuts IMO. I've read arguments before how "Toronto businesses will open the wallets to endorse Stamkos to get him to play here!"
I dunno, I just don't see it.
And while their NHL salary is in American dollars, Toronto endorsements wouldn't be, so there's a 30% loss of value there. But, I'm sure the wallets would be opened to pay well over that loss, of course. |
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