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MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

May 27 @ 5:36 PM ET
Well McGuire just said the Canucks hit a homerun with this trade and doesn't understand what Florida is doing... Said Gudbranson is a 3rd D man only reason his toi was less was cuz no Pp time... And basically laughed at all the analytics guys... So there ya go discussion over lol
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 27 @ 5:39 PM ET
I agree, I think that this was sprung on him and he needed to act quick if he wanted to make it work.

Although I did read on HF, no proof though, that Edm and Toronto were rumoured to be involved with apparently Edm offering Yak and the 32nd.

Price is definitely reasonable, I'm still not sure that it is the best move going forward though.

- belcherbd


This, that's why we threw in the 4th in exchange for the 5th
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 27 @ 5:40 PM ET
I hope hansen gets a 1st. that means colborne could fetch the same being that he has similar numbers, he's younger and plays wing

....in other words. a 2nd is a stretch

- numbear


Problem being Colborne has never scored 20 goals, Hansen has.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 27 @ 5:40 PM ET
Well McGuire just said the Canucks hit a homerun with this trade and doesn't understand what Florida is doing... Said Gudbranson is a 3rd D man only reason his toi was less was cuz no Pp time... And basically laughed at all the analytics guys... So there ya go discussion over lol
- MaWLz

Don't forget he avergaed 26mins in playoffs, first 2 games were over 30mins played. a trash #6 dman(like some people call him) don't eat up those kind of minutes in playoffs. The fact that he was used on PK more than anyone else and in defensive situations more than anyone else. Stayed a +/- 0 after losing a series 4-2 says something about his ability to defend. Shot differential means very little. Look at how many garbage shots Vrbata took last season. Same with Higgins.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 27 @ 5:42 PM ET
I think it was done quickly so that Edmonton wouldn't get wind of it because they could have, obviously, out bid the Canucks.
- Marwood



I heard that the oil offered yak and their second and Florida valued Jared more, the fear was that the oil would offer RNH and JB want sure if Florida would value that more then Jared.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 27 @ 5:44 PM ET
Didn't we just pay a 1st and 2nd for a good 3rd pairing D
- belcherbd

I'm not sure what Gundbranson is...but I know this much, he is either our 2nd or 3rd best Dman. So that's makes him a top 2 or 3 on a good team?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 5:44 PM ET


Just listened to this, sorry if it has already been shared....

Benning on the 2nd round pick, that after talking about they realized that the players they were looking at in that position would be 5 or 6 years away from helping the team..... no poop

We owe it to our fans to field a competitive team right now.



I don't think it could be any clearer that there is no rebuild.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 27 @ 5:46 PM ET


Just listened to this, sorry if it has already been shared....

Benning on the 2nd round pick, that after talking about they realized that the players they were looking at in that position would be 5 or 6 years away from helping the team..... no poop




I don't think it could be any clearer that there is no rebuild.

- belcherbd

We always knew FA wouldn't allow one.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 5:47 PM ET
I'm not sure what Gundbranson is...but I know this much, he is either our 2nd or 3rd best Dman. So that's makes him a top 2 or 3 on a good team?
- CanuckDon


I would put him 3 or 4 in our current group.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 27 @ 5:47 PM ET
Problem being Colborne has never scored 20 goals, Hansen has.
- Scooby_Doo

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 27 @ 5:51 PM ET
I'm not saying those players a exact comparables of each other but I think it is a stretch to say Hansen is a better player than Hudler even if you take into account the age difference and Hansen will be a UFA after this season as well.

McGinn, Purcell and Versteeg IMO are the closest comparables off that list.

- belcherbd


Those are all Ufa trades, Hanson has 2 more years on a very cap friendly deal. If versteeg had another year left on his contract and was cap friendly then he would have gotten a first plus.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 27 @ 5:51 PM ET
I would put him 3 or 4 in our current group.
- belcherbd

overall a solid 4th best on Van IMO. 4th best that brings what the other 3 don't have though.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 27 @ 5:52 PM ET
Well McGuire just said the Canucks hit a homerun with this trade and doesn't understand what Florida is doing... Said Gudbranson is a 3rd D man only reason his toi was less was cuz no Pp time... And basically laughed at all the analytics guys... So there ya go discussion over lol
- MaWLz

LMAFO........ McGuire.........
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 5:54 PM ET
Those are all Ufa trades, Hanson has 2 more years on a very cap friendly deal. If versteeg had another year left on his contract and was cap friendly then he would have gotten a first plus.
- Pres.cup


I guess we will see what happens but I will be pleasantly surprised if we can get a first for him.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 27 @ 5:54 PM ET
I would put him 3 or 4 in our current group.
- belcherbd

At worst he is 3....you have Hutton ahead?

Or is it tanev-Edler-Sbisa-Gundbranson?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 5:57 PM ET
LMAFO........ McGuire.........
- manvanfan


MCGuire, Kyprios, MacLean and Button like it.

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 5:59 PM ET
At worst he is 3....you have Hutton ahead?

Or is it tanev-Edler-Sbisa-Gundbranson?

- CanuckDon


Like I said 3 or 4 yes Hutton would be one of those spots as well.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 6:00 PM ET
overall a solid 4th best on Van IMO. 4th best that brings what the other 3 don't have though.
- manvanfan


No doubt, very excited to have him on the team.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 27 @ 6:01 PM ET
Like I said 3 or 4 yes Hutton would be one of those spots as well.
- belcherbd


Hutton has one season under his belt. Gundbranson was playing 26 minutes a night for a playoff team with a much better D. You are underating him
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 27 @ 6:05 PM ET
If he can trade Hansen to the Capitals, Blues, Kings, Ducks or whomever for a 1st then I'm totally fine with giving up the 2nd round pick to get Gudbranson.

I agree that if we get Dubois, there is no need for McCann. Not sure why this trade couldn't wait until we found that out, but I guess he was pressured into it.

- Scooby_Doo


We needed to trade before the Oilers got involved
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

May 27 @ 6:07 PM ET
Well McGuire just said the Canucks hit a homerun with this trade and doesn't understand what Florida is doing... Said Gudbranson is a 3rd D man only reason his toi was less was cuz no Pp time... And basically laughed at all the analytics guys... So there ya go discussion over lol
- MaWLz


The real question is: Does he consider Gudbrandson a "Monster"??
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 27 @ 6:07 PM ET
I suspect Hansen is worth a 2nd...is it really worth moving him? I dont think it is
- CanuckDon


@TDL
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 27 @ 6:08 PM ET
@TDL
- VANTEL

Now...learn from the mistakes of not trading Vrbata when he was coming off 30 goals.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 6:09 PM ET
Hutton has one season under his belt. Gundbranson was playing 26 minutes a night for a playoff team with a much better D. You are underating him
- CanuckDon


I agree, basing it off one season would be silly and why I am saying that they both slot in the 3-4 spots. If I were to base it off one season of Hutton I would have no problem saying Gudbranson slots in as our 4th best D.



walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 27 @ 6:10 PM ET
Hutton has one season under his belt. Gundbranson was playing 26 minutes a night for a playoff team with a much better D. You are underating him
- CanuckDon

Is it not a case of you never watching the East the same way not one single person this way watches the West?
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