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golfingsince
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May 30 @ 10:29 PM ET
So you want 2 Gaunces, instead of a Horvat? That's what you're saying, think about it, do we really need more secondary players when we've got a huge glut of them? I'd prefer the top-5 talent who has the higher potential ceiling and skill myself.
- DariusKnight


Yes, only Gaunces are selected late in the draft.

Do you want 1 Nedved? or a Perry and a Getzlaf?

Holy (frank), it's not as simple as you make it.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

May 30 @ 10:30 PM ET
I can't believe they never took Pavelski 5th overall!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 30 @ 10:31 PM ET
Purpose for a team that's ready to contend.
- manvanfan

I like Benning respone. "I helped build a cup winner, how many have you built"?
thundachunk
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Joined: 12.31.2011

May 30 @ 10:32 PM ET
Yes, only Gaunces are selected late in the draft.

Do you want 1 Nedved? or a Perry and a Getzlaf?

Holy (frank), it's not as simple as you make it.

- golfingsince

Its not that simple but... Dubois.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
I like Beening respone. "I helped build a cup winner, how many have you built"?
- VANTEL


He gets it, feck the advanced stats.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
Speak of the devil and he shows up.
- thundachunk

I had another "outside" day today
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
I like Benning respone. "I helped build a cup winner, how many have you built"?
- VANTEL

JB responses are a field day for the media. He did say he's getting a new core, so I guess we get the core then they get the 5 years of top 5 picks.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
Its not that simple but... Dubois.
- thundachunk


If you can't get him, trade down for high risk/reward Brown
golfingsince
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May 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
Its not that simple but... Dubois.
- thundachunk


I like Dubois, but I trade the pick if a good deal is offered.

Look how much draft projections change over a year. Aside from a few can't miss guys, people slide up and down all the time. It wasn't that long ago people were calling for Gauthier top 5.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
Yes, only Gaunces are selected late in the draft.

Do you want 1 Nedved? or a Perry and a Getzlaf?

Holy (frank), it's not as simple as you make it.

- golfingsince


Do you see a Perry or Getzlaf in this draft after the top 5? That's Tkachuk and Dubois come to think about it. It is as simple as that, I'll say it again, I'd rather have one in the hand than two in the bush. Those two mythical picks in the 10-20 range (which is what I'm assuming you'd like us to trade 5OA for) MIGHT and I stress MIGHT be as good or better than 4-9 but it's rare and usually that's a combination of a) the right system, b) a player that found more talent than he showed previously c) the right coach and d) might have dropped due to injury/personal issues/bad chemistry with linemates. I don't see any of the 10-20 fitting that criteria and when you're in the spot we are, you can't take that chance. We're not the Oilers looking to take that next step, we need all the top talent we can get.
thundachunk
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May 30 @ 10:37 PM ET
I had another "outside" day today
- LeftCoaster

Me too and another tomorrow. Mens night.

This not working stuff is fun. I just wish I had the finances to maintain it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 30 @ 10:38 PM ET
JB responses are a field day for the media. He did say he's getting a new core, so I guess we get the core then they get the 5 years of top 5 picks.
- manvanfan

This looks like it is going to be a very painful series for the smaller more skilled Pens
thundachunk
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May 30 @ 10:38 PM ET
I like Dubois, but I trade the pick if a good deal is offered.

Look how much draft projections change over a year. Aside from a few can't miss guys, people slide up and down all the time. It wasn't that long ago people were calling for Gauthier top 5.

- golfingsince

So do you do it for Drouin?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 30 @ 10:38 PM ET
I had another "outside" day today
- LeftCoaster


We are awaiting our lessons grand master.
thundachunk
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Joined: 12.31.2011

May 30 @ 10:39 PM ET
If you can't get him, trade down for high risk/reward Brown
- VanHockeyGuy

I wouldn't be upset if he was taken at 5 if Dubois wasnt available.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 30 @ 10:39 PM ET
This looks like it is going to be a very painful series for the smaller more skilled Pens
- VANTEL


Bonino = Warrior
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 30 @ 10:43 PM ET
Bonino = Warrior
- VanHockeyGuy

Patty Smyth?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 30 @ 10:44 PM ET
Patty Smyth?
- VANTEL

golfingsince
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May 30 @ 10:44 PM ET
Do you see a Perry or Getzlaf in this draft after the top 5? That's Tkachuk and Dubois come to think about it. It is as simple as that, I'll say it again, I'd rather have one in the hand than two in the bush. Those two mythical picks in the 10-20 range (which is what I'm assuming you'd like us to trade 5OA for) MIGHT and I stress MIGHT be as good or better than 4-9 but it's rare and usually that's a combination of a) the right system, b) a player that found more talent than he showed previously c) the right coach and d) might have dropped due to injury/personal issues/bad chemistry with linemates. I don't see any of the 10-20 fitting that criteria and when you're in the spot we are, you can't take that chance. We're not the Oilers looking to take that next step, we need all the top talent we can get.
- DariusKnight


Oh, i'm pretty sure they would have gone higher in 2003 if they were easily visible then.

If you read, I was advocating for a possible trade with AZ for the 7th and 20th. Then I also advocated trading that 7th for the 14th and and 29th/30th. Of course, those aren't stand alone deals.

You keep talking about Dubois and or Tkachuk about being one in the hand, yet neither has played a game in the NHL. So tell us, which one is going to be better ?

Stop acting like the draft is an exact science, if it was we would have won a cup by now.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 30 @ 10:44 PM ET
Its not that simple but... Dubois.
- thundachunk

Dubois is an absolute monster as a 17 year old...nobody works harder off the ice. 6'3 220 in a years time
golfingsince
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May 30 @ 10:45 PM ET
So do you do it for Drouin?
- thundachunk


Easily.

That, as Darius puts it is one in the hand.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 30 @ 10:46 PM ET
Dubois is an absolute monster as a 17 year old...nobody works harder off the ice. 6'3 220 in a years time
- CanuckDon


Yep, but don't set yourself up for a big letdown.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 30 @ 10:49 PM ET
So do you do it for Drouin?
- thundachunk

Yes. I would . A ready now skilled third overall.


A previous third overall for a first round pick. That should go over well in this city.
golfingsince
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May 30 @ 10:50 PM ET
Yes. I would . A ready now skilled third overall.


A previous third overall for a first round pick. That should go over well in this city.

- VANTEL


Really?

You don't see the difference or are you just being facetious?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 30 @ 10:51 PM ET
Really?

You don't see the difference or are you just being facetious?

- golfingsince



I see them both as a good aquire.
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