We have a GM who's pedigree is supposedly in drafting. If we can land additional first round picks for our 5OA i'd trade down in a heartbeat.

The AHL team you mention is the exact reason. We'll also need 2nd line, 2nd pairing guys down the road which we are void of. We will have plenty of opportunity to get top line/pairing talent as we continue to suck.
- golfingsince

I'd argue that we won't suck as bad next year as we did this year, so if we're going to go for top-end talent, now is the time to get it. Next year we're going to be in that marginal spot of being 9/10 in the West which doesn't bode well for moving up in the draft lottery and the next couple of drafts aren't supposedly very strong with high end talent.

SMBDragon will coach him into putting himself into better positions offensively. Have no fears.
- golfingsince

Screw coaching, how about a Surrey 3some

Do you guys remember when Nucker was very, very vocal about us trading up for Reinhart ?I'm pretty sure he wanted us to trade up to #1OA.

I'm also pretty sure Thunda was saying Draisaitl would be better, I was saying Bennett would be better, DCT was saying Ehlers would be better. I wanted Nylander at our draft position.

Anyways, the point is that there are very few can't miss prospects in any given draft. It's not like he have the 1st or 2nd pick. We have the 5th, and a GM who's strength is apparently drafting. I'd rather him have more than 1 first rounder.

By the way, All-Star Dylan Larkin went 15th.
- golfingsince

Well you can play this game with any draft year. We need to draft whoever our GM believes is the closest to a 1st line guarantee. We all do t have extraordinary hindsight like many Canucks fans

Clearly. I don't have a coaching background or anything.
- golfingsince

youve coached good nhl teams have you

Screw coaching, how about a Surrey 3some
- CanuckDon

that was new west....not surrey

I'd argue that we won't suck as bad next year as we did this year, so if we're going to go for top-end talent, now is the time to get it. Next year we're going to be in that marginal spot of being 9/10 in the West which doesn't bode well for moving up in the draft lottery and the next couple of drafts aren't supposedly very strong with high end talent.
- DariusKnight

Once the Sedins retire, we'll have a couple of rough years. Even if Dubois turns into an eventual 1C, it will take years IMO. We're pretty void of talent coming up, and pretty reliant on goaltending to win games.

At this stage, we're counting on all of our top prospects to make an impact at the NHL level.....it's not very realistic.

youve coached good nhl teams have you
- SMBDragon

As many as you have, which is less than WD by the way.

You saying we need to have coached at the NHL level to discuss it?

You should start cheering the Jets


I see nothing but disappointment here for years to come.
- VANTEL

I thought you said we'd be pushing for a playoff spot next year???

Well you can play this game with any draft year. We need to draft whoever our GM believes is the closest to a 1st line guarantee. We all do t have extraordinary hindsight like many Canucks fans
- CanuckDon

My point exactly.

If you're going hunting, do you want 1 bullet or 3?

Once the Sedins retire, we'll have a couple of rough years. Even if Dubois turns into an eventual 1C, it will take years IMO. We're pretty void of talent coming up, and pretty reliant on goaltending to win games.

At this stage, we're counting on all of our top prospects to make an impact at the NHL level.....it's not very realistic.
- golfingsince

So start now. Pull the band aid this year . If this team is as horrible as everyone is predicting why not move Edler and the Twins. Honestly what is the difference between finishing 28 or 30 . Three extra first round draft picks?

4 first round draft picks.


I think you guys are going to eat you words . Take our fifth , make a trade to get you other Dman required and we will be fine.

Once the Sedins retire, we'll have a couple of rough years. Even if Dubois turns into an eventual 1C, it will take years IMO. We're pretty void of talent coming up, and pretty reliant on goaltending to win games.

At this stage, we're counting on all of our top prospects to make an impact at the NHL level.....it's not very realistic.
- golfingsince

Actually, it is realistic, that's why you draft them, you aren't drafting someone in the 1st round not to make an impact. Seriously dude, you don't draft someone without the expectation that they're going to minimum reach their floor with the hope that they end up reaching their ceiling. You draft players in the first round that at least have a floor of 3L/2L and if you're lucky to be top 10/top 5 you expect that player to be a star in the league and if they aren't, then you obviously didn't do enough homework on them. We need stars, not the Hansens or Baertchi's of the world.

So start now. Pull the band aid this year . If this team is as horrible as everyone is predicting why not move Edler and the Twins. Honestly what is the difference between finishing 28 or 30 . Three extra first round draft picks?

4 first round draft picks.


I think you guys are going to eat you words . Take our fifth , make a trade to get you other Dman required and we will be fine.
- VANTEL

I'd rather move the 5th plus for OEL than try this band aid poop we've been doing.

As many as you have, which is less than WD by the way.

You saying we need to have coached at the NHL level to discuss it?
- golfingsince

not at all... but In what I originally said was "good nhl teams", then you said you had coaching experience. Made it sound like you know how to coach nhl teams. Obviously not.

dude please dont drag me into your conversations. I dont reference you ...ok?

Off topic but how much do you think itll cost to pry Nicushkin out of dallas? doesnt seem like their coach is high on him?

Actually, it is realistic, that's why you draft them, you aren't drafting someone in the 1st round not to make an impact. Seriously dude, you don't draft someone without the expectation that they're going to minimum reach their floor with the hope that they end up reaching their ceiling. You draft players in the first round that at least have a floor of 3L/2L and if you're lucky to be top 10/top 5 you expect that player to be a star in the league and if they aren't, then you obviously didn't do enough homework on them. We need stars, not the Hansens or Baertchi's of the world.
- DariusKnight

Actually, it isn't.

Here you can find all of our first round picks.....ever.

You could make a pretty good team if you used all of them.....ever.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00008756.html

Off topic but how much do you think itll cost to pry Nicushkin out of dallas? doesnt seem like their coach is high on him?
- phyllee

probably Virtanen

I thought you said we'd be pushing for a playoff spot next year???
- dbot

I do.

I meant he is going to be pissed with Benning's move.

So start now. Pull the band aid this year . If this team is as horrible as everyone is predicting why not move Edler and the Twins. Honestly what is the difference between finishing 28 or 30 . Three extra first round draft picks?

4 first round draft picks.


I think you guys are going to eat you words . Take our fifth , make a trade to get you other Dman required and we will be fine.
- VANTEL

I hope we take Dubois and am hoping he turns into a Monahan situation. Its a reach yes but its happened before. Would defiently soften the blow for Henrik leaving

not at all... but In what I originally said was "good nhl teams", then you said you had coaching experience. Made it sound like you know how to coach nhl teams. Obviously not.

dude please dont drag me into your conversations. I dont reference you ...ok?
- SMBDragon

No, what you implied ( once again) is that you knew more about coaching then other posters.(me) That's why you were dragged into it in the first place. If you don't want to get laughed at, then maybe tone down the attitude.

I hope we take Dubois and am hoping he turns into a Monahan situation. Its a reach yes but its happened before. Would defiently soften the blow for Henrik leaving
- phyllee

I sure as hell hope so.

I hope we take Dubois and am hoping he turns into a Monahan situation. Its a reach yes but its happened before. Would defiently soften the blow for Henrik leaving
- phyllee

Yeah.


Lots of doom and gloom on here these days. Dog Days

Holy shlt, we traded Dane Fox? God damn it, Benning.

Holy shlt, we traded Dane Fox? God damn it, Benning.
- CubanBuffet

Time to stop penciling him into lineups.

Yeah.


Lots of doom and gloom on here these days. Dog Days
- VANTEL

Im just excited for the season, two free agents who are likely going to be 2/3 of Eriksson/Lucic/Brouwer. With that being said Hansen should get traded.

I hope we take Dubois and am hoping he turns into a Monahan situation. Its a reach yes but its happened before. Would defiently soften the blow for Henrik leaving
- phyllee

Isn't Dubois' experience at C pretty limited? I still like the pick, but he probably won't be filling Henrik's skates.