Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Nick Bonino Inspires Seller's Remorse, Jared McCann Former Vancouver Canuck Nick Bonino was the hero in Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final thanks to his game-winning goal for the Pittsburgh Penguins, and Andrey Pedan calls Jared McCann's character into question.

Another good read Carol, thanks.

Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Nick Bonino Inspires Seller's Remorse, Jared McCann
Former Vancouver Canuck Nick Bonino was the hero in Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final thanks to his game-winning goal for the Pittsburgh Penguins, and Andrey Pedan calls Jared McCann's character into question.
- Carol Schram

Thanks Carol

Bonino could play on a peg leg as long as he can pass the puck as fast as his line mates skate.

"Sellers remorse" I think not, however, considering the Canucks as a team are not much better with Sutter at 4.375 million in the lineup as oppose to Bonino at 1.9 million, not to mention Benning gave up Forsling and dropped nine spots in the draft...IMO it was a dumb trade.

"I liked Mario Lemieux better than Gretzky"

You're dead to me

(ok ok, I still love thee )

"I liked Mario Lemieux better than Gretzky"

You're dead to me

(ok ok, I still love thee )
- Zogg

I hope we can still be friends!

To me, it seemed like everything came so easily for Gretzky. Mario had many more obstacles to overcome...

"Sellers remorse" I think not, however, considering the Canucks as a team are not much better with Sutter at 4.375 million in the lineup as oppose to Bonino at 1.9 million, not to mention Benning gave up Forsling and dropped nine spots in the draft...IMO it was a dumb trade.
- LeftCoaster

Two different trades. Best to evaluate them independently. Forsling was traded for Clendenning which didn't workout (but was popular at the time). The fact Clendenning was dumped later is irrelevant when analyzing the Sutter trade. I still think it's a solid trade as Bonino wasn't strong in Vancouver. His current success doesn't change the fact that people wanted him gone in this town

Well done Carol.

I'm with you got to go with the Pens. I had them over the Sharks in 7. Could care les about the Sharks as technically they are a Bettman team and part of that whole 'selling hockey in the States' crap that took place after the Gretzky trade.

I'm happy for Bonino and Kessel. Plus how about Justin Schultz? From the doghouse in EDM to the cup final...and actually contributing.

Hype machine is reaching here on Bonino. No doubt, he is a good story bringing some depth the the Pens lineup after many years and contributing at both ends but it really started to get to me after the game. They showed a list of GWG leaders in the playoffs and were talking about how "clutch" Bonino was. Which is great except the list showed him tied with 11 others with 2 GWG's

http://www.cbc.ca/news/ca...ing-mississauga-1.3607965

Hype machine is reaching here on Bonino. No doubt, he is a good story bringing some depth the the Pens lineup after many years and contributing at both ends but it really started to get to me after the game. They showed a list of GWG leaders in the playoffs and were talking about how "clutch" Bonino was. Which is great except the list showed him tied with 11 others with 2 GWG's
- WhiteLie

feckin analytics

"Sellers remorse" I think not, however, considering the Canucks as a team are not much better with Sutter at 4.375 million in the lineup as oppose to Bonino at 1.9 million, not to mention Benning gave up Forsling and dropped nine spots in the draft...IMO it was a dumb trade.
- LeftCoaster

Keep in mind that Bonino isn't a top 6 center and when put in that role, couldn't produce. The trade is fine, it's stupid to judge when Sutter was out for 3/4 of the season and Bonino is on a team that's stacked with talent, enough so that even on the 3rd line, he gets to play with Kessel who admittedly is one of the best pure goal scorers in the game and Hagelin who has speed to burn and is really good at retrieving the puck in the offensive zone. Who in Vancouver would be able to approach that level of skill on his wing? Virtanen? Hansen? Baertschi? Vrbata sure couldn't.

@LordHumungous:

We're a team of misfits and right offs from past skapegoats like Bonino, Kessel, Hagelin, Daley, and Schultz, to the guys people didn't think had anything left in the tank like Cullen, Fehr, and Kunitz, to the Wilkse Barre 5 who no one thought would be contributing NHLers ever. Yet somehow everyone's found a niche here and formed a cohesive group now three wins away from a Stanley Cup.

From the Pens perspective, the Sutter trade was an astronomical success. For us it was a win just by salary cap standards. No way in hell we could afford to retain Sutter for the contract you guys gave him. So we traded him for Bonino, which all things being equal didn't seem like a huge downgrade at 3C at the time and opened up enough space to sign Fehr at a really cheap deal. Even if Bonino sucked for us, we could have just flipped him (at 1.8 mil there will always be takers) and I still would have been fine with the Sutter trade. The pick swap included in the deal and Clendening was icing on the cake.

Then something no one saw coming happened and HBK was born. The Sutter trade in hind sight was one of the most important points of this season.

I hope we can still be friends!

To me, it seemed like everything came so easily for Gretzky. Mario had many more obstacles to overcome...
- Carol Schram

ok, but I'm never lending you my pink Gretzky onesie again

And you do have a valid point, Mario did have more adversity to overcome. I guess I was looking at it from a strictly dispassionate view

We've seen both the good and bad of Bonino. First part of the season was awful....when playing with slower wings. Give him wingers that can skate and open up space and you'll see Bones is a pretty slick player. Gifted passer and tremendous positionally.

He's been great at winning key FO's too.

Keep in mind that Bonino isn't a top 6 center and when put in that role, couldn't produce. The trade is fine, it's stupid to judge when Sutter was out for 3/4 of the season and Bonino is on a team that's stacked with talent, enough so that even on the 3rd line, he gets to play with Kessel who admittedly is one of the best pure goal scorers in the game and Hagelin who has speed to burn and is really good at retrieving the puck in the offensive zone. Who in Vancouver would be able to approach that level of skill on his wing? Virtanen? Hansen? Baertschi? Vrbata sure couldn't.
- DariusKnight

For all the poop he got for being in Toronto, the absurd trade that sent him there, he actually is a really good player capable of producing with very little (aka how he managed to be in the top 10 scorer several times on a lousy Leaf team). I dont know if Bonino/Bozak are that different, but I cant believe how little credit Phil is getting for the production on this line

Two different trades. Best to evaluate them independently. Forsling was traded for Clendenning which didn't workout (but was popular at the time). The fact Clendenning was dumped later is irrelevant when analyzing the Sutter trade. I still think it's a solid trade as Bonino wasn't strong in Vancouver. His current success doesn't change the fact that people wanted him gone in this town
- CanuckDon

I agree that it is two seperate trades and should be viewed that way. Clendening and Bonino being dealt is more an indication that Benning isn't as great as a pro scout as he is a junior scout.

I was happy with the Sutter trade from day one, and still prefer Sutter over Bonino for what our team needs but that contract is bad.

ok, but I'm never lending you my pink Gretzky onesie again

And you do have a valid point, Mario did have more adversity to overcome. I guess I was looking at it from a strictly dispassionate view
- Zogg

Of course Mario had to overcome more adversity, he was born French Canadian.

Hype machine is reaching here on Bonino. No doubt, he is a good story bringing some depth the the Pens lineup after many years and contributing at both ends but it really started to get to me after the game. They showed a list of GWG leaders in the playoffs and were talking about how "clutch" Bonino was. Which is great except the list showed him tied with 11 others with 2 GWG's
- WhiteLie

I generally don't buy into the "clutch" stereotype but to judge Bonino's "clutchness" based upon only his NHL playoff career isn't fair either.

As Carol showed he came up big for the americans in the Bronze medal game and I do recall that he played a large role in the NCAA championship game as well, scoring the tieing goal with a few seconds to go in regulation and assisting on the game winner as well I think.

Bonino get's lots of 2nd and 3rd dman pairings to go up against night after night. And playing with guys who can really move helps quite a bit too.

geez boninos FO success was terrible when he was here. That was a key reason for trade

I hope we can still be friends!

To me, it seemed like everything came so easily for Gretzky. Mario had many more obstacles to overcome...
- Carol Schram

Thats why he was the great one.

I generally don't buy into the "clutch" stereotype but to judge Bonino's "clutchness" based upon only his NHL playoff career isn't fair either.

As Carol showed he came up big for the americans in the Bronze medal game and I do recall that he played a large role in the NCAA championship game as well, scoring the tieing goal with a few seconds to go in regulation and assisting on the game winner as well I think.
- belcherbd

I feel the same way about the term clutch, I didnt like it for "Mr. Game 7" and dont like it here. I tolerate it when guys have big moments and in this case he got a big goal, but IMO calling him clutch "this playoff" given his stats was unnecessary by the postgame show. Pavelski has 4 GWG's this playoff, out of SJ's 12 wins, I would say thats more impressive if they wanted to focus on individual scoring

To his credit though, he is pretty humble about the whole thing, I do like seeing that from him

geez boninos FO success was terrible when he was here. That was a key reason for trade
- SMBDragon

So this is the same Bonino that took the 2nd most draws on the canucks (1245) and had the 3rd highest FO win% (47.4%) over those taking more than 500 draws (and the highest for those taking >1,000 draws)?
(and, Bonino a career 47.8% FO success rate vs. Sutter a 48.3% FO success rate)

So this is the same Bonino that took the 2nd most draws on the canucks (1245) and had the 3rd highest FO win% (47.4%) over those taking more than 500 draws (and the highest for those taking >1,000 draws)?
(and, Bonino a career 47.8% FO success rate vs. Sutter a 48.3% FO success rate)
- DeflatedPucks

Sometimes, people just know more about things.........