I would agree their play has been average so far, but there is potential that comes with youth that has me more interested by it (they also have 1st round pick pedigree, which leaves me hopeful). He has been at the helm for 2 years, so its relatively early to pass a lot of judgement, but just knowing there are younger players with untapped potential in the lineup that could get better, is much better than needing Gaunce and Jensen to pan out as a top 6 forwards (let alone NHLers), or having Higgins up there. Thats why in a vacuum, without knowing the costs to acquire, I would be happy knowing who JB has given the coach to work with moving forward - WhiteLie
Yup there is potential there, but I do have an issue looking at that potential of Etem, Vey, Sbisa, Granlund, Baertschi etc and ignore the potential of Jensen, Forsling, Shink as well of 2 2nds and 3 3rds or whatever it worked out to be.
It's not like Benning has acquired potential for older players, for the most part he has been moving the younger player or pick to get the more NHL ready prospect.
So I read day in and day out about JB and his drafting and trading, how he overpays to get the players he wants.
How and why does anyone know what the request was. Ye Old Timer says JB overpaid for Gudbranson, what is the information on this, to me it's purely speculative, does anyone know what was requested, same for Sutter, how the hell does anyone know what the asking price was.
What posters are alluding to is that team A requests this and that, but JB goes no, no, no you get this, that and the other thing. Maybe team A requested this, that and 2 other things, seriously what's the basis for over-payment, posters unqualified experience, hindsight a year or two later.
Love how everyone is a (frank)ing expert on everything hockey, and they would never over pay or make bad choices... - Makita
Speculative bullpoop and nonsense is the currency of this site.
No, I don't have transcripts of the phone calls between Benning and the other GM's. In my opinion, based on the circumstances of many other trades between other teams, Benning's parting with more assets than he should have to, to make the upgrades he's doing. It's an interpretation of market value. You're welcome to disagree.
Now I'll insert a bunch of stupid yellow things to further express superiority of some sort.
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May 31 @ 7:01 PM ET
Yup there is potential there, but I do have an issue looking at that potential of Etem, Vey, Sbisa, Granlund, Baertschi etc and ignore the potential of Jensen, Forsling, Shink as well of 2 2nds and 3 3rds or whatever it worked out to be.
It's not like Benning has acquired potential for older players, for the most part he has been moving the younger player or pick to get the more NHL ready prospect. - belcherbd
Big picture, he acquired young talent with potential for his aging lineup. Narrow the focus, and you see he traded for older prospects that are capable of playing NHL vs unproven prospects that have a lot of question marks. Etem for Jensen to me sums up his intentions, Jensen isnt more than a 3rd liner at best but might not even get there. Etem can and does play 3rd line occasionally and thats a good idea to get a sure thing. I like that strategy, just because the Canucks have drafted so poorly and you need young serviceable players to fill out your roster. Shink and Forsling are higher risk as they have shown flashes of skill, but they still might be a ways from being average NHLers which JB thought he was acquiring.
My opinion is that I like the payment of those prospects and the occasional draft picks, which yield a 5-10% chance of a good NHLer, for an actual NHL player regardless of how mediocre. Teams throw away picks on rentals all the time, these picks are at least bringing in longer term pieces
Speculative bullpoop and nonsense is the currency of this site.
No, I don't have transcripts of the phone calls between Benning and the other GM's. In my opinion, based on the circumstances of many other trades between other teams, Benning's parting with more assets than he should have to, to make the upgrades he's doing. It's an interpretation of market value. You're welcome to disagree.
Now I'll insert a bunch of stupid yellow things to further express superiority of some sort. - YeOldTimer
Yup there is potential there, but I do have an issue looking at that potential of Etem, Vey, Sbisa, Granlund, Baertschi etc and ignore the potential of Jensen, Forsling, Shink as well of 2 2nds and 3 3rds or whatever it worked out to be.
It's not like Benning has acquired potential for older players, for the most part he has been moving the younger player or pick to get the more NHL ready prospect. - belcherbd
it cant be said any better than this of the 5 players you named only sven has shown top 4 or top 6 potential. Where as the players and prospects moved all show much higher and the guys we got could have easily been replaced via free agency without loosing prospect depth
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
May 31 @ 7:10 PM ET
I think he is only a consolation if Stamkos doesn't sign. People would be totally retarded to want Lucic over Stamkos. - thundachunk
Obviously. But it's not and either or situation.
Lucic is just more practical or realistic option.
SS is a pipe dream. Or another thing for people to get their hopes up about and then get disappointed and angry when it doesn't work out.
Big picture, he acquired young talent with potential for his aging lineup. Narrow the focus, and you see he traded for older prospects that are capable of playing NHL vs unproven prospects that have a lot of question marks. Etem for Jensen to me sums up his intentions, Jensen isnt more than a 3rd liner at best but might not even get there. Etem can and does play 3rd line occasionally and thats a good idea to get a sure thing. I like that strategy, just because the Canucks have drafted so poorly and you need young serviceable players to fill out your roster. Shink and Forsling are higher risk as they have shown flashes of skill, but they still might be a ways from being average NHLers which JB thought he was acquiring.
My opinion is that I like the payment of those prospects and the occasional draft picks, which yield a 5-10% chance of a good NHLer, for an actual NHL player regardless of how mediocre. Teams throw away picks on rentals all the time, these picks are at least bringing in longer term pieces
