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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 2 @ 1:20 PM ET
Ignore ignoramuses who question you. It's their fault, not yours.

I may not agree with your takes on things, but it's just dumb to insult people over it , and being bothered by people you have no value for gives them "power" in their own mind - don't give in clown!!

- stashu

the writer friend of mine, over 25 years, sent me this text

"want a laugh

girgens agent wants 4 mil per and mentioned all star

folignos agent is talking 3 per or more pending contract length

have fun on the golf course this weekend"

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:21 PM ET
I see a lot of fit bits in recent porn
- homiedclown


These fitbit things are kinda like watches, right? They go on your wrist???

I don't watch a lot of porn, but when I do, I'm focusing elsewhere.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:21 PM ET
I am done commenting on what I hear

when I get laughed at when 2 sources throw stupid high numbers players want, and get laughed at, I have no time for my character to be questioned

common sense an agent is going to ask for much more than what they will settle for in opening numbers

and one agent mentioned "he played in an NHL all star game"

- homiedclown


I've never doubted you when it comes to sharing what players may be asking for, it's just for me, I could really care less what they ask for as all that matters is what they will agree to, and if either of those two think they are getting anywhere near what they are asking, good luck to them as somebody else can make that mistake.

I'm not saying Girgensons won't eventually be worth $4M or Foligno, should he actually be consistent for an entire season, be worth $3M, but no way either is worth that now.

For me, $2.5M is about the max either is worth, and not on a long term deal either. I would say $5.5M total for both is about the most I would go.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 2 @ 1:22 PM ET
McCabe-Risto
Gorges-Bogo
Guhle-Franson

McCabe is playing too much in this scenario, but it's the only R/L scenario that makes sense to me. We need top-4 help badly

Edit: Forgot Pysyk. Franson would be the extra D
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 2 @ 1:22 PM ET
I've never doubted you when it comes to sharing what players may be asking for, it's just for me, I could really care less what they ask for as all that matters is what they will agree to, and if either of those two think they are getting anywhere near what they are asking, good luck to them as somebody else can make that mistake.

I'm not saying Girgensons won't eventually be worth $4M or Foligno, should he actually be consistent for an entire season, be worth $3M, but no way either is worth that now.

For me, $2.5M is about the max either is worth, and not on a long term deal either. I would say $5.5M total for both is about the most I would go.

- kingcong39

oh I agree

the agents are starting out with unrealistic numbers
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:22 PM ET
the writer friend of mine, over 25 years, sent me this text

"want a laugh

girgens agent wants 4 mil per and mentioned all star

folignos agent is talking 3 per or more pending contract length

have fun on the golf course this weekend"

- homiedclown


I think we all have a good laugh at what many, many players ask for when it comes time to negotiate a new deal.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 2 @ 1:23 PM ET
the writer friend of mine, over 25 years, sent me this text

"want a laugh

girgens agent wants 4 mil per and mentioned all star

folignos agent is talking 3 per or more pending contract length

have fun on the golf course this weekend"

- homiedclown


And like I said, I don't agree with what you say (or pass on) - I think that is ridiculous in regards to Girgensons - but I'm also not going to berate you or anyone who would post rumors

Those of us who don't know your friend can/should freely criticize the info, but going the lengths of insulting people for posting it is stupid.

And as a former basher of someone who poster rumors, I know what the posts are like (though to defend myself, my bashing wasn't so much of the rumors than the self-congratulations of said poster)
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:23 PM ET
oh I agree

the agents are starting out with unrealistic numbers

- homiedclown


Pretty much their job to ask for the moon, right?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:24 PM ET
And like I said, I don't agree with what you say (or pass on) - I think that is ridiculous in regards to Girgensons - but I'm also not going to berate you or anyone who would post rumors

Those of us who don't know your friend can/should freely criticize the info, but going the lengths of insulting people for posting it is stupid.

And as a former basher of someone who poster rumors, I know what the posts are like (though to defend myself, my bashing wasn't so much of the rumors than the self-congratulations of said poster)

- stashu


kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:25 PM ET
And like I said, I don't agree with what you say (or pass on) - I think that is ridiculous in regards to Girgensons - but I'm also not going to berate you or anyone who would post rumors

Those of us who don't know your friend can/should freely criticize the info, but going the lengths of insulting people for posting it is stupid.

And as a former basher of someone who poster rumors, I know what the posts are like (though to defend myself, my bashing wasn't so much of the rumors than the self-congratulations of said poster)

- stashu


I have a very, very difficult time seeing him getting any more than $2.5M per on a short term deal with the season he just had. His agent is reaching and he knows it. The team holds all the cards in this situation.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 2 @ 1:25 PM ET
And like I said, I don't agree with what you say (or pass on) - I think that is ridiculous in regards to Girgensons - but I'm also not going to berate you or anyone who would post rumors

Those of us who don't know your friend can/should freely criticize the info, but going the lengths of insulting people for posting it is stupid.

And as a former basher of someone who poster rumors, I know what the posts are like (though to defend myself, my bashing wasn't so much of the rumors than the self-congratulations of said poster)

- stashu

he has been in the presser since the early 80's

very trusted source
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:27 PM ET
he has been in the presser since the early 80's

very trusted source

- homiedclown

stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 2 @ 1:27 PM ET

- Der Kaiser


Well...that was a different kind of bashing...but that's not who I was referring to, and not going to mention anyone either (other than saying it's not 89 that I mean either).
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 2 @ 1:28 PM ET
the writer friend of mine, over 25 years, sent me this text

"want a laugh

girgens agent wants 4 mil per and mentioned all star

folignos agent is talking 3 per or more pending contract length

have fun on the golf course this weekend"

- homiedclown


Tell Bucky I said hi.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 2 @ 1:30 PM ET
he has been in the presser since the early 80's

very trusted source

- homiedclown


Not calling him into question, but pretty sure you've posted other info over time and not sure what any success ratio is. And that's not to say this person is full of crap either since rumors and negotiations are just that - conversations that may never end up coming to fruition.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 2 @ 1:30 PM ET
Tell Bucky I said hi.
- fastek

not him, nor garth

I said it before, he was on empire a lot, as a guest, and on the radio a lot as a guest

never played in the nhl


22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 2 @ 1:30 PM ET
kinky
- Der Kaiser

Oh my
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 2 @ 1:31 PM ET
not him, nor garth

I said it before, he was on empire a lot, as a guest, and on the radio a lot as a guest

never played in the nhl

- homiedclown


Tell Sully I said hi
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Jun 2 @ 1:31 PM ET
the writer friend of mine, over 25 years, sent me this text

"want a laugh

girgens agent wants 4 mil per and mentioned all star

folignos agent is talking 3 per or more pending contract length

have fun on the golf course this weekend"

- homiedclown


Goodbye to both, then.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 2 @ 1:33 PM ET
Tell Sully I said hi
- fastek



not him
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 2 @ 1:33 PM ET


not him

- homiedclown


In my William Shatner voice ...... "Damn it Man "!!!!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 2 @ 1:34 PM ET
Goodbye to both, then.
- Khmylev

player x wants 4 per, sabres want 1.7 per


ends up in the middle


player y wants 3 per, sabres want 1.8 per

ends up in middle



this puts girgens around 2.6 per on a bridge deal, which is a tad over what I expect and foligno around 2.4 per which is realistic
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 2 @ 1:37 PM ET
Razor
- 22sabresQ

Because .............. Razor never played in the NHL.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 2 @ 1:38 PM ET
Because .............. Razor never played in the NHL.
- fastek


Damn... musta missed that part.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 2 @ 1:39 PM ET
Because .............. Razor never played in the NHL.
- fastek

my wife has a super crush on him, when he touched her hand, she did not wash it for a month


not ray or razor though
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