Apperently Kyprios or someone else, can't remember said that if Datsyuk plays in KHL next year his Detroit hit is eliminated
- bluengold12

That does not sound fair.

Don't remember, but what about the Kovalchuck situation? Was it different? I know they took a big hit.

Edit: and I think there is something in the CBA about this.

Double edit: yes, according to CBA, the contract stands because it was after he was 35

That does not sound fair.

Don't remember, but what about the Kovalchuck situation? Was it different? I know they took a big hit.
- rmiethaner

He retired, but he was also under 35.

Datsyuk is over, so they can't ditch the contract. Especially since he didn't "retire"

He retired, but he was also under 35.

Datsyuk is over, so they can't ditch the contract. Especially since he didn't "retire"
- TheSabresTaco

This is correct.

He retired, but he was also under 35.

Datsyuk is over, so they can't ditch the contract. Especially since he didn't "retire"
- TheSabresTaco

Exactly. I keep hearing that they will have no problem trading the contract and wiping their hands clean. I don't get that. Who would trade for a dead contract? If you're in danger of missing the floor, you are a budget team that would want an active player eating up that money.

Am I missing something?

That does not sound fair.

Don't remember, but what about the Kovalchuck situation? Was it different? I know they took a big hit.

Edit: and I think there is something in the CBA about this.

Double edit: yes, according to CBA, the contract stands because it was after he was 35
- rmiethaner

I forgot the exact quote but it seems like there's a loophole where they can suspend him

I forgot the exact quote but it seems like there's a loophole where they can suspend him
- bluengold12

Dan Milstein, Datsyuk's agent, told the Detroit Free Press the Wings have said they would not try to trade Datsyuk's contract. Yet that is the only scenario that makes sense for the Wings. There are no loopholes in the CBA. It's trade the contract, or take the hit.

www.freep.com/story/sport...atsyuk-contract/82867770/

And DeKeyser is one of those steady guys who does a lot more than people ever notice. I really think there is something worth looking at here.

Dan Milstein, Datsyuk's agent, told the Detroit Free Press the Wings have said they would not try to trade Datsyuk's contract. Yet that is the only scenario that makes sense for the Wings. There are no loopholes in the CBA. It's trade the contract, or take the hit.

www.freep.com/story/sport...atsyuk-contract/82867770/

And DeKeyser is one of those steady guys who does a lot more than people ever notice. I really think there is something worth looking at here.
- Der Kaiser

Guess the guy, it was Renaud Lavoie I believe it was is wrong. Which is surprising because he's usually pretty reliable

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- Michael Pachla

Who?

Guess the guy, it was Renaud Lavoie I believe it was is wrong. Which is surprising because he's usually pretty reliable
- bluengold12

I heard that. Thought he said if detroit suspends him they dont have to worry about it. Didnt make sense, when i heard it, still doesnt.

I heard that. Thought he said if detroit suspends him they dont have to worry about it. Didnt make sense, when i heard it, still doesnt.
- rover16

I think, and I could definitely be wrong, that if they suspend him it's like LTIR type situation where the cap hit stands but they're allowed to go over the cap for the amount his contract is.

Say it ain't so!! Some players are just smarter/have better PR than others when it comes to their vices and getting caught.
- Wetbandit1

That's not what I mean

So how big a deal is Barr leaving for FLA? Expected?

So how big a deal is Barr leaving for FLA? Expected?
- riptheguard

I'm not too worried about it. Rumor has it Todd Richards and Brad Shaw are possible candidates to replace him and I'd say they are both equal or better.

That's not what I mean
- SABRES 89

How did you mean it?

I think, and I could definitely be wrong, that if they suspend him it's like LTIR type situation where the cap hit stands but they're allowed to go over the cap for the amount his contract is.
- Wetbandit1

This cap nonsense teams that are in cap trouble are beginning to execute needs to be stopped and fast.

Between the baloney Richards contract being voided because the Kings GM was too dumb to use a compliance buyout on him when anybody with a brain could see that was needed to this potential joke of suspending a player that leaves to avoid his cap hit, it's becoming a joke to get out of trouble GM's put themselves in.

This cap nonsense teams that are in cap trouble are beginning to execute needs to be stopped and fast.

Between the baloney Richards contract being voided because the Kings GM was too dumb to use a compliance buyout on him when anybody with a brain could see that was needed to this potential joke of suspending a player that leaves to avoid his cap hit, it's becoming a joke to get out of trouble GM's put themselves in.
- kingcong39

It has to do with the language of the CBA, which says the amount a 35+ player EARNS in any year counts against the cap. So some are saying if Datsyuk plays in Russia then he breaches the agreement and can be suspended, so he EARNS nothing.

But that's way too simple. A guy who plays in Russia doesn't EARN his NHL pay any more than a guy who retires during his contract, and retiring in the late years of the contract to avoid the cap hit is exactly what the +35 rule was written to avoid. It can't be that the rules use of the word EARNED has to do with trying to play in the NHL (especially in a league where nearly all contracts are guaranteed) or it wouldn't work at all

Apperently Kyprios or someone else, can't remember said that if Datsyuk plays in KHL next year his Detroit hit is eliminated
- bluengold12

If the wings get away with trading his cap hit NHL teams need the step in that's total horses after that Mike Richards bullpoop too

LeBron will see you in Miami soon you got to do your recruiting and get Kevin Durant to come

If the wings get away with trading his cap hit NHL teams need the step in that's total horses after that Mike Richards bullpoop too
- GERBE!!!75PTS

The Flyers traded Pronger's contract and he works for the (frank)ing league! Also the Bruins traded Savard's to Florida.

I would be on The bandwagon trading for PK He would get Stamkos also

Sign me up

I would be on The bandwagon trading for PK He would get Stamkos also

Sign me up
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Subban? I don't think we have to assets, unless we're talking Risto, Reinhart, 8th.

Subban? I don't think we have to assets, unless we're talking Risto, Reinhart, 8th.
- chilliard77

Oh I know.. I was thinking something crazy like the whole draft plus next years first

But I honestly think everyone in Buffalo would hate it lol

The Flyers traded Pronger's contract and he works for the (frank)ing league! Also the Bruins traded Savard's to Florida.
- Wetbandit1

Those players were injured I give those a pass

Oh I know.. I was thinking something crazy like the whole draft plus next years first

But I honestly think everyone in Buffalo would hate it lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS

If that was a possibility, sign me up. I think it takes at least two of Reinhart, Risto, and 8th to even start talks though.

Should I just sell my Gus Jersey now since it sounds like he's going to get traded I'm done asking for jerseys now but if we sign Stamkos that might be a different story




It's mind blowing what I'm hearing about him now I thought he was going to be the captain of this team at one time