Have to give to get. Find a way to shed Moulson and Bogosian's salary and term and I can stomach taking on Brown. Who knows, maybe a change of scenery will bring him back to his old form..
- bluengold12

Bogo isn't moving

On the Panthers new logo/jersey unveil:

"To celebrate the unveiling, the Panthers held a party for fans at their arena with players Aaron Ekblad, Vincent Trocheck, Shawn Thornton and Steven Kampfer, and alumni Ed Jovanovski, Radek Dvorak, Bill Lindsay and Olli Jokinen."
- Sabre_Tooth

Olli

Bogo isn't moving
- SABRES 89

Ask yourself this. Would you rather have Risto and Barrie or Risto and Bogosian. If Murray somehow got Barrie he would easily be happy to move out Bogosian and that dreadful contract.

Brown is poop now do not want let the kings deal with him

Tyson Barrie ?
5 ft 10 - 190 lb
RH shot
Not what I think GMTM is looking for, but he does have good numbers
- 22sabresQ

He's absolutely what TM is looking for. Top pp QB, can handle top 4 minutes. Not everyone needs to be a destroyer back there. You need at least one guy who can move the puck and score.

He's absolutely what TM is looking for. Top pp QB, can handle top 4 minutes. Not everyone needs to be a destroyer back there. You need at least one guy who can move the puck and score.
- TheSabresTaco

And sign a top UFA LH dman ...ok I'm in !

Ask yourself this. Would you rather have Risto and Barrie or Risto and Bogosian. If Murray somehow got Barrie he would easily be happy to move out Bogosian and that dreadful contract.
- bluengold12

Barrie does not hit

Barrie does not hit
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Who gives a (frank)? Bogosian does not cover forwards

Barrie does not hit
- GERBE!!!75PTS

he's gotta punch people in the face to b gud!!!

Who gives a (frank)? Bogosian does not cover forwards
- bluengold12

ha.

tbf.. he improved in the last quarter of the season, a lot.

ha.

tbf.. he improved in the last quarter of the season, a lot.
- TheSabresTaco

His offensive game improved. Yes. But I still watched him in the wrong place at the wrong time far too much. Or half ass poke his stick as a faster more skilled winger dangles by him to shoot.

I think Bylsma switched up his minutes so he was mainly taking offensive rushes towards the end of the year. His hockey IQ is dreadful

His offensive game improved. Yes. But I still watched him in the wrong place at the wrong time far too much. Or half ass poke his stick as a faster more skilled winger dangles by him to shoot.

I think Bylsma switched up his minutes so he was mainly taking offensive rushes towards the end of the year. His hockey IQ is dreadful
- bluengold12

I agree

Ask yourself this. Would you rather have Risto and Barrie or Risto and Bogosian. If Murray somehow got Barrie he would easily be happy to move out Bogosian and that dreadful contract.
- bluengold12

He isn't looking for a RHD and Bogo isn't a bad contract. He traded for him for a reason. I have no use for Barrie, horrible in his own end.

The Avs need a D man or 2 and Barrie is young, why are they moving him ? ask that question. They or another team can have him.

He isn't looking for a RHD and Bogo isn't a bad contract. He traded for him for a reason. I have no use for Barrie, horrible in his own end.
- SABRES 89

To be honest so is Bogosian. If we can trade 20 point, questionable defensively Bogosian for 50 point, questionable defensively Barrie sign me up.

He isn't looking for a RHD and Bogo isn't a bad contract. He traded for him for a reason. I have no use for Barrie, horrible in his own end.
- SABRES 89

How is 4 more years of mediocre 4th or 5th level play at a 5 million and over cap hit not a bad contract?

He isn't looking for a RHD and Bogo isn't a bad contract. He traded for him for a reason. I have no use for Barrie, horrible in his own end.
- SABRES 89

Bogosian's cap hit is 5.1, it's not that bad of a contract. If he hit the open market he would get more than 5.1 a year

The Avs need a D man or 2 and Barrie is young, why are they moving him ? ask that question. They or another team can have him.
- SABRES 89

I don't know. Why would they move a two way center, twenty goal scoring, leader and top line player in O'Riley?

Reason is because they are run by morons who don't like to pay their stars

To be honest so is Bogosian. If we can trade 20 point, questionable defensively Bogosian for 50 point, questionable defensively Barrie sign me up.
- chilliard77

This. Bogosian is awful in his own end. Anyone disagreeing must be clouded by the powerplay points he got...

Bogosian's cap hit is 5.1, it's not that bad of a contract. If he hit the open market he would get more than 5.1 a year
- mattmoulson

Disagree. His play warrants a 4 million a year deal. He got that contract and the ridiculous length based on where he was drafted.

I don't know. Why would they move a two way center, twenty goal scoring, leader and top line player in O'Riley?

Reason is because they are run by morons who don't like to pay their stars
- bluengold12

I wouldn't say moron, but they definitely make some questionable decisions.

Doughty is untouchable. No chance any team gets him. Muzzin is a perennial 40 point defenseman and was a point per game player in this years playoffs. I'd take Browns contract for sure for him. I think Murray could find a way to ditch some salary if that's the case.
- bluengold12

You'd basically be taking 10 mil in cap space for Muzzin. That's awful

I wouldn't say moron, but they definitely make some questionable decisions.
- chilliard77

Was exaggerating a bit based on how ridiculous the other comment was.

You'd basically be taking 10 mil in cap space for Muzzin. That's awful
- sbroads24

I guess that's a good way of looking at it but if you free up Moulson's 5 you'd only be taking on 5 million total

ha.

tbf.. he improved in the last quarter of the season, a lot.
- TheSabresTaco

And? Haven't we seen players do this for years?

Bogo is an average defenseman making top 2 money. He is what he is going to be