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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 3 @ 4:04 PM ET
And? Haven't we seen players do this for years?

Bogo is an average defenseman making top 2 money. He is what he is going to be

- sbroads24

Top 2 money is questionable. There are worse making more for longer out there I bet.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 3 @ 4:07 PM ET
Top 2 money is questionable. There are worse making more for longer out there I bet.
- cabin

He's in the top 35 I believe in terms of cap hit for D men. That's high end #2 money.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 3 @ 4:10 PM ET
He's in the top 35 I believe in terms of cap hit for D men. That's high end #2 money.
- sbroads24

I sit corrected . Many teams don't have a 5m D on the team.
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jun 3 @ 4:27 PM ET
Bogo isn't moving
- SABRES 89


question for 89-

some of the players that i have seen mentioned as linked to the sabres- fowler, brodin, eberle- these dont seem like murray type of players. do you think he would go off script to acquire one of these players, especially considering that the price is going to be very high?

edit- also if we stay at 8, does he consider a player like nylander or jost, or just draft chychrun?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 3 @ 5:07 PM ET
Who gives a (frank)? Bogosian does not cover forwards
- bluengold12


I was making joke people only want players that punch people in the face and hit
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 5:18 PM ET
Any update on the Malkin sweeps?
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 3 @ 5:20 PM ET
Any update on the Malkin sweeps?
- Canada Cup



Yeah. You're getting him for Horton, Cowen and the UFA rights for Torres
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 3 @ 5:20 PM ET
I was making joke people only want players that punch people in the face and hit
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Ahhh yes that get's annoying
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 3 @ 5:25 PM ET
question for 89-

some of the players that i have seen mentioned as linked to the sabres- fowler, brodin, eberle- these dont seem like murray type of players. do you think he would go off script to acquire one of these players, especially considering that the price is going to be very high?

edit- also if we stay at 8, does he consider a player like nylander or jost, or just draft chychrun?

- rover16


Keeping 8 and draft Chychrun isn't bad. Go sign an older UFA LhD for 3 seasons while he "seasons".
That said, I have been rattling the cage for trading into 4 to get Tkachuck...that is still my hope. 8 + Girgenson + a 2nd.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 3 @ 5:39 PM ET
Tried that peanut doughnut Yep I still hate donuts it was Sahara desert dry
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 3 @ 5:40 PM ET
Keeping 8 and draft Chychrun isn't bad. Go sign an older UFA LhD for 3 seasons while he "seasons".
That said, I have been rattling the cage for trading into 4 to get Tkachuck...that is still my hope. 8 + Girgenson + a 2nd.

- IonSabres


If only it was that easy to get Tk
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 3 @ 5:40 PM ET
Tried that peanut doughnut Yep I still hate donuts it was Sahara desert dry
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Well that's a bum doughnut to try. Lol
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 3 @ 5:43 PM ET
Well that's a bum doughnut to try. Lol
- chilliard77


Blueandgold said it was good .. I will never try a donut for the rest of my life they are truly disgusting I will take bagel with cream cheese and butter any day
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 3 @ 5:46 PM ET
Blueandgold said it was good .. I will never try a donut for the rest of my life they are truly disgusting I will take bagel with cream cheese and butter any day
- GERBE!!!75PTS

There are some very good doughnuts out there. I rarely have them but some are great, jelly filled, boston creme, even classic glazed. Damn now I want some doughnuts.
gipper0073
Joined: 02.03.2010

Jun 3 @ 5:52 PM ET
Sign Goligoski. Just friggin' sign Stamkos. Draft Clayton Keller...that kid is gonna be sick. The thing that always gets me are these behemoth's who barely (if even) produce at a point-a-game clip in juniors getting ranked so high...while the small players who produce at a ridiculous rate drop. Haven't guys like Gaudreau, T Johnson, Briere, Patty Kane, Kucherov, Skinner, etc proven that you don't need to be big to be effective. Especially with 3-on-3 ot where guys like Gaudreau thrive. Go check out Keller's highlight video's on youtube and try and tell me that this kid with Eichel wouldn't be absolutely dynamite for years to come.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 3 @ 6:04 PM ET
Sign Goligoski. Just friggin' sign Stamkos. Draft Clayton Keller...that kid is gonna be sick. The thing that always gets me are these behemoth's who barely (if even) produce at a point-a-game clip in juniors getting ranked so high...while the small players who produce at a ridiculous rate drop. Haven't guys like Gaudreau, T Johnson, Briere, Patty Kane, Kucherov, Skinner, etc proven that you don't need to be big to be effective. Especially with 3-on-3 ot where guys like Gaudreau thrive. Go check out Keller's highlight video's on youtube and try and tell me that this kid with Eichel wouldn't be absolutely dynamite for years to come.
- gipper0073


Agree with everything but people will hate that he's a center etc small etc and if we take him 8th
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jun 3 @ 6:07 PM ET
Keeping 8 and draft Chychrun isn't bad. Go sign an older UFA LhD for 3 seasons while he "seasons".
That said, I have been rattling the cage for trading into 4 to get Tkachuck...that is still my hope. 8 + Girgenson + a 2nd.

- IonSabres


I think we are overpaying, and its still not what the oilers would want. I was looking at 2 charts today- one said the 4th overall is worth 8 + 30, the other one said 8 + 2 3rd rounders. Girgensons is worth more than 30 overall. The problem of course is that the other team still has to play ball. My guess is 8 + bogosian is what edmonton would want, probably with salary retained. Not that we should do it, just saying girgensons or pysyk isnt what they want. Tkachuk would have to be pretty sweet compared to chychrun for this to make sense. I guess its just the difference between baiting a hook and hoping for a bite, and actually catching the fish.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 3 @ 6:08 PM ET
I think we are overpaying, and its still not what the oilers would want. I was looking at 2 charts today- one said the 4th overall is worth 8 + 30, the other one said 8 + 2 3rd rounders. Girgensons is worth more than 30 overall. The problem of course is that the other team still has to play ball. My guess is 8 + bogosian is what edmonton would want, probably with salary retained. Not that we should do it, just saying girgensons or pysyk isnt what they want. Tkachuk would have to be pretty sweet compared to chychrun for this to make sense. I guess its just the difference between baiting a hook and hoping for a bite, and actually catching the fish.
- rover16

Lots of people will say Gus is less then 30th
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 3 @ 6:14 PM ET
Well that's a bum doughnut to try. Lol
- chilliard77


Well I can't post a picture of it for some reason but Timmy Ho's peanut donuts are very good and definetly not dry Gerbe. I heat mine up for ten seconds as well so they taste fresh out of the oven
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 3 @ 6:18 PM ET
I think we are overpaying, and its still not what the oilers would want. I was looking at 2 charts today- one said the 4th overall is worth 8 + 30, the other one said 8 + 2 3rd rounders. Girgensons is worth more than 30 overall. The problem of course is that the other team still has to play ball. My guess is 8 + bogosian is what edmonton would want, probably with salary retained. Not that we should do it, just saying girgensons or pysyk isnt what they want. Tkachuk would have to be pretty sweet compared to chychrun for this to make sense. I guess its just the difference between baiting a hook and hoping for a bite, and actually catching the fish.
- rover16


Getting Ktachuk who will likely be 50x better than Girgensons isn't an over payment at all. Girgensons is not worth 30th overall. Probably much less then that.
That being said Edmonton wants a RHD. Yes I think 8 + Bogosian would get it done however Bogosian has a no trade and would never waive it to back up to Alberta
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 3 @ 6:25 PM ET
Getting Ktachuk who will likely be 50x better than Girgensons isn't an over payment at all. Girgensons is not worth 30th overall. Probably much less then that.
That being said Edmonton wants a RHD. Yes I think 8 + Bogosian would get it done however Bogosian has a no trade and would never waive it to back up to Alberta

- bluengold12


He doesn't, at least not yet. Murray confirmed as much on his interview with WGR a while back...and there's this


https://www.capfriendly.com/players/zach-bogosian

Doesn't kick in till the 17-18 season.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 3 @ 6:35 PM ET
He doesn't, at least not yet. Murray confirmed as much on his interview with WGR a while back...and there's this


https://www.capfriendly.com/players/zach-bogosian

Doesn't kick in till the 17-18 season.

- Sabresfan-365


Hm... That's interesting. On generfanger it has him with a NMC his whole contract.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 3 @ 6:37 PM ET
Hm... That's interesting. On generfanger it has him with a NMC his whole contract.
- bluengold12



General fanager just mentions he has one but not when it kicks in. If they were ever going to move him it would be between this draft and the next because after that he's got all the control.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 3 @ 6:49 PM ET
General fanager just mentions he has one but not when it kicks in. If they were ever going to move him it would be between this draft and the next because after that he's got all the control.
- Sabresfan-365

Get it done
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 3 @ 6:53 PM ET
General fanager just mentions he has one but not when it kicks in. If they were ever going to move him it would be between this draft and the next because after that he's got all the control.
- Sabresfan-365


The Capfriendly website also has O'Riley with NMC for his contract and he doesn't have one though so a bit conflicting info there
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