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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 6:28 PM ET
He said it's not a big deal, but for a dude who had Tommy John already...
- Jsaquella

Yeah and they said Ali's hospitalization wasn't a big deal at first.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 6:28 PM ET
He's not off mine, but he slid down. The talent is there, but there's concerns.
- Jsaquella


As much as I want a sniper or goal scorer, I'd like one who is still capable of playing in all zones.

They don't have to be the best in all zones but I'd like to at least see the effort.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 6:55 PM ET
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 8 @ 7:00 PM ET
As much as I want a sniper or goal scorer, I'd like one who is still capable of playing in all zones.

They don't have to be the best in all zones but I'd like to at least see the effort.

- ob18


That's paramount, but for a guy whose calling card was scoring goals, he wasn't Alex Ovechkin out there. Kunin's a better shooter and all around player. Gauthier's got the tools, not sure he's willing to use them all the time
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 8 @ 7:04 PM ET
5foot 11. 192.

For Kunin? Not bad I guess, would prefer touch more size.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 8 @ 7:07 PM ET
I want the Sharks to lose, but honestly Pittsburgh to me has had an easy run. In terms of physically punishing.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:08 PM ET
5foot 11. 192.

For Kunin? Not bad I guess, would prefer touch more size.

- flyer_nutter


ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
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Jun 8 @ 7:12 PM ET
That's paramount, but for a guy whose calling card was scoring goals, he wasn't Alex Ovechkin out there. Kunin's a better shooter and all around player. Gauthier's got the tools, not sure he's willing to use them all the time
- Jsaquella


Agreed, add it to the list for why he's not on my list.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:12 PM ET
Not to be nitpicky, but I also see a lot of standing still and gliding in that video.

Seems like an aight player.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 8 @ 7:22 PM ET
He's intriguing. Maybe if they trade into the back end of the 1st round. I don't think I'd take him over my top 5-7 names at 18.

Abramov and Asplund have made their way into the mix, for me, as well

- Jsaquella


Abramov was one of my dark horses before I bought the BB. They rave about him...the scouts too. He is a player I would love to trade back up for or even down for if worst case scenarios play out. He just strikes me as the next dynamic Russian.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:23 PM ET
Not to be nitpicky, but I also see a lot of standing still and gliding in that video.

Seems like an aight player.

- flyer_nutter


The only times he's standing still is when he's in prime scoring areas.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:24 PM ET
Abramov was one of my dark horses before I bought the BB. They rave about him...the scouts too. He is a player I would love to trade back up for or even down for if worst case scenarios play out.
- Mononoke


He was a guy I would have considered as a dark horse, now, he might be in my top 3-4 names.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:24 PM ET
The only times he's standing still is when he's in prime scoring areas.
- Jsaquella


I only got to see Kunin in the prospects game. But he is just so smart as a scorer, and responsible defensively even if he is more a c/wing hybrid. Much to like. He always knows where to be to get that opportunities and is always working to get them.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:26 PM ET
I only got to see Kunin in the prospects game. But he is just so smart as a scorer, and responsible defensively even if he is more a c/wing hybrid. Much to like. He always knows where to be to get that opportunities and is always working to get them.
- Mononoke


There's some good videos out there that show the smarts. I see him more of a winger than C. He just finds the seams and that quick release is needed.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:26 PM ET
From the very little I have looked up on these guys.

Trade up for Bellows.

Stay away from Gauthier and Jones.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:27 PM ET
He was a guy I would have considered as a dark horse, now, he might be in my top 3-4 names.
- Jsaquella


I think there's a chance he could slip to ~28-30 range. I would be very very interested in trading up for him. He just has everything you want in a slippery smaller skill player: consistency, jaw dropping abilities, burning skating, and he even tries hard defensively, though size is an issue. 5th in Q scoring.

If he hits, he is everything the modern NHL is about.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:28 PM ET
From the very little I have looked up on these guys.

Trade up for Bellows.

Stay away from Gauthier and Jones.

- flyer_nutter


Bellows is my 2nd choice at 18. Kid's a player. Some scouts seem concerned he might not be able to fully translate his junior success to the NHL. But I like what I've seen.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:28 PM ET
He was a guy I would have considered as a dark horse, now, he might be in my top 3-4 names.
- Jsaquella


Debrincat is another of similar size and scoring ability if they wanted to consider moving up for either.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
I think there's a chance he could slip to ~28-30 range. I would be very very interested in trading up for him. He just has everything you want in a slippery smaller skill player: consistency, jaw dropping abilities, burning skating, and he even tries hard defensively, though size is an issue. 5th in Q scoring.

If he hits, he is everything the modern NHL is about.

- Mononoke


Yep. He's an exciting player. Absolute playmaker. If he was 6'2" they'd have to trade up to even consider
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
There's some good videos out there that show the smarts. I see him more of a winger than C. He just finds the seams and that quick release is needed.
- Jsaquella


I do too. I've seen all the highlights, but the prospects game watching him play 20 min of shifts (back in September though, so it is outdated) was so intriguing. Very very smart. 2-way too. The Wisconsin comparison is too easy, but he has a little Pavelski about his game.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
Debrincat is another of similar size and scoring ability if they wanted to consider moving up for either.
- ob18


I worry about the skating tbh. I prefer Abramov.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:30 PM ET
Bellows is my 2nd choice at 18. Kid's a player. Some scouts seem concerned he might not be able to fully translate his junior success to the NHL. But I like what I've seen.
- Jsaquella

You want the best player available and all that doo daa.

I get that. I just want something as close to top 6 talent with decent size as possible. Trade up to get it if need be.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:30 PM ET
Debrincat is another of similar size and scoring ability if they wanted to consider moving up for either.
- ob18


I'm not anti-DeBrincat, but even before reading up on him, I wouldn't have touched him before round 2. Little is fine. Little and slightly above average speed is worrisome to me.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:30 PM ET
I worry about the skating tbh. I prefer Abramov.
- Mononoke


Skating isn't bad, but if comparing the 2 Abramov is better.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 8 @ 7:31 PM ET
How about Dennis Cholowski?
- ob18


His report was fascinating. Literally checked off every single buzz word I look for in a dman. IF he fell to 48, which I'm questioning if he falls to even 30, he would be a great pick. He won't though.
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