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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
To be honest, my biggest concern is finding a young center who will pick up some of the slack when Giroux begins to decline. In a couple years, G may need to be moved to wing and will certainly be taking on fewer minutes. He'll still be a good player, but he won't be a guy you can lean on as heavily. Hell, they're already leaning on him too much.

Getting a young C who can play in the top 9 now and hopefully grow into a 60-70 point guy would be my top priority over the next couple of years. Maybe it's a guy they move up to draft or a straight up prospect exchange or they build a package around Schenn, Sanheim/Morin and a pick.

- PhillySportsGuy

Man, good luck finding a center through trade in this league. The wheel has spun from Goalies to Defensemen and onto Centers as the NHLs hottest commodity.

Id look to draft that guy.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 8 @ 12:55 PM ET
I agree with the gist of this. Move some bad contracts if he can is first priority and then see who steps up from within their own guys to fill in.

The only thing I would change is in the scenario where Hexy is able to move Streit and
Read, I would then make a move to sign a guy like Nielsen. With those two contracts off their books they would have to dollars to add a guy and he makes a lot of sense with their needs. It would be money much better spent then the ridiculous deals they used on VLC and Amac.

Also if both Streit and Read are gone that is a lot of veteran leadership missing. Asking rookies to fill both those roles would be tough and they would definitely take a step back next season unless they sign a vet to fill those holes created.

- Marc D


Fair enough. Though with Giroux, Simmonds, and Schultz still on the roster, I think they have enough vets. Heck, even though they are still pretty young, guys like Couturier, Schenn, Voracek, and MDZ have all been around long enough to help mentor younger players.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 8 @ 12:57 PM ET
Craig Button's latest rankings:

http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s...position-matters-1.503562

- Tomahawk


Wow he really has Chycrun falling. As much as they need forward help, if he's on the board at 18, he'd be damned hard to pass up.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 8 @ 12:58 PM ET
To be honest, my biggest concern is finding a young center who will pick up some of the slack when Giroux begins to decline. In a couple years, G may need to be moved to wing and will certainly be taking on fewer minutes. He'll still be a good player, but he won't be a guy you can lean on as heavily. Hell, they're already leaning on him too much.

Getting a young C who can play in the top 9 now and hopefully grow into a 60-70 point guy would be my top priority over the next couple of years. Maybe it's a guy they move up to draft or a straight up prospect exchange or they build a package around Schenn, Sanheim/Morin and a pick.

- PhillySportsGuy


Yup, it's why I'm not opposed to moving up and trying to land a guy like Brown or McLeod.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 8 @ 12:58 PM ET
To be honest, my biggest concern is finding a young center who will pick up some of the slack when Giroux begins to decline. In a couple years, G may need to be moved to wing and will certainly be taking on fewer minutes. He'll still be a good player, but he won't be a guy you can lean on as heavily. Hell, they're already leaning on him too much.

Getting a young C who can play in the top 9 now and hopefully grow into a 60-70 point guy would be my top priority over the next couple of years. Maybe it's a guy they move up to draft or a straight up prospect exchange or they build a package around Schenn, Sanheim/Morin and a pick.

- PhillySportsGuy


+1, and I'd wager that Hexy is probably accounting for that in his plan.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:02 PM ET
If you're still forced to play Raffl on the first line you're pretty much conceding that you've done very little to empower last season's offense and that has to be a priority this off season.
- mayorofangrytown


Or you are spreading your offensive skill throughout the top 9. Why do your best scorers have to be all on the same line? 3 legit scoring threats is how we should be looking to construct the lines. They will change throughout the season and will be moved around in game situations, but I hope they spend a good amount of time together
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:03 PM ET
Man, good luck finding a center through trade in this league. The wheel has spun from Goalies to Defensemen and onto Centers as the NHLs hottest commodity.

Id look to draft that guy.

- mayorofangrytown


Centers get traded but only if their name is Ryan
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 8 @ 1:05 PM ET
I'm talking about a guy who hasn't even entered his prime yet. Someone on their ELC. Someone like Hertl before the world realized he's actually very good.
- PhillySportsGuy

I know, just seemed funny.

I actually hope they get a center this draft who turns into another Giroux
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 8 @ 1:07 PM ET
Or you are spreading your offensive skill throughout the top 9. Why do your best scorers have to be all on the same line? 3 legit scoring threats is how we should be looking to construct the lines. They will change throughout the season and will be moved around in game situations, but I hope they spend a good amount of time together
- YuenglingJagr

That what I'm looking to do. Three lines that can score. I'm looking to add a "better" wing so I can move Raffl down in the lineup to help the scoring. If you end up with a winger who can put the puck in the net in FA then I want him with my best play maker.

I don't need my best three players on the top line. We all know it doesn't work that way.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 8 @ 1:07 PM ET
Centers get traded but only if their name is Ryan
- YuenglingJagr

True. Where's a young Ryan Smith when you need him?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 8 @ 1:08 PM ET
Wow he really has Chycrun falling. As much as they need forward help, if he's on the board at 18, he'd be damned hard to pass up.
- BiggE


Not a fan of that guy myself
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 8 @ 1:08 PM ET
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 1:11 PM ET
Howden and Asplund as future centers
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:13 PM ET
I'm talking about a guy who hasn't even entered his prime yet. Someone on their ELC. Someone like Hertl before the world realized he's actually very good.
- PhillySportsGuy


I still dont understand why everyone slobbers over Hertl. From a statistical output he is Brayden Schenn with less hype
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 8 @ 1:13 PM ET
Wow he really has Chycrun falling. As much as they need forward help, if he's on the board at 18, he'd be damned hard to pass up.
- BiggE

You can get Gauthier and Clague in the second round.

Take your center or wing at 18.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 8 @ 1:13 PM ET
Not a fan of that guy myself
- Tomahawk


I think he's one of those guys that doesn't dominate or isn't flashy, but he looks to me to be the type of all around top 4 guy with good size, wheels and skill that plays 15 years in the NHL. I'd be very happy with him at 18
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 8 @ 1:14 PM ET
I still dont understand why everyone slobbers over Hertl. From a statistical output he is Brayden Schenn with less hype
- YuenglingJagr

He had that big coming out party then got hurt. I don't think people are paying as much attention to what he's done since he came back.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 1:16 PM ET
I think he's one of those guys that doesn't dominate or isn't flashy, but he looks to me to be the type of all around top 4 guy with good size, wheels and skill that plays 15 years in the NHL. I'd be very happy with him at 18
- BiggE

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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:17 PM ET
He had that big coming out party then got hurt. I don't think people are paying as much attention to what he's done since he came back.
- mayorofangrytown


I like him and hes good (he was drafted in the first round so its not as though he came out of nowhere) but he has kind of become the posterchild for the "trade all of our players for their players" crowd
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 8 @ 1:19 PM ET
Jeff approves this message
- vejim

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 8 @ 1:28 PM ET
I still dont understand why everyone slobbers over Hertl. From a statistical output he is Brayden Schenn with less hype
- YuenglingJagr


He's more like Couturier.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...ort=PCTRelTM&sortdir=DESC
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 8 @ 1:31 PM ET
I still dont understand why everyone slobbers over Hertl. From a statistical output he is Brayden Schenn with less hype
- YuenglingJagr

Because he looked very very good until dustin brown shredded his knee since he came back his role on the team changed
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 8 @ 1:37 PM ET
I still dont understand why everyone slobbers over Hertl. From a statistical output he is Brayden Schenn with less hype
- YuenglingJagr


10/09/13 - the hype endures

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 8 @ 1:38 PM ET
10/09/13 - the hype endures


- Scoob


Yeah that started it all
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 8 @ 1:39 PM ET
Craig Button's latest rankings:

http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s...position-matters-1.503562

- Tomahawk


He has the same players in the top 20 as Hockey Prospect except Howden replaces Max Jones, who Button has 42nd.
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