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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Buffalo's free agent list. Re-sign or not re-sign? If so, how much? Pt.2
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SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 10 @ 11:28 AM ET
AD's on NHL jerseys, what a joke.
- SABRES 89


If the NHL ever does this for the regular season games, I am going to puke. I watched Auston Matthews hilights from Switzerland and I gagged when I saw the jersey he was wearing. This is the NHL, not English Premier League soccer.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 10 @ 11:31 AM ET
Girgs is expendable with our center depth, but don't you remember how good the Larsson, Gionta, Foligno line was the last 20 games of the season? It could be argued that they were our best line. We could do much worse for a 3rd/4th line.

Would love to see Girgs sent to CLB with our #8 and #38 for #3 overall.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 11:33 AM ET
When is the Arbitration filing deadline ? Foligno is eligible.
- cabin


Good they will give him his 1.8 that he earned with all that hard work
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 11:34 AM ET
Im still bitter about them not considering moving #8 for a player. (per the clown)
- Sabresfan-365


Because the draft is in buffalo
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 11:35 AM ET
We don't need Girgensons or Foligno on this team.
- SABRES 89


I would send them both in a package for the third pick
siket71
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Gamehendge
Joined: 07.26.2006

Jun 10 @ 11:35 AM ET
Foligno was down right dominant more often than not the last 1/3 of last season.
Of course this reeks of his overall career inconsistency.
But if it's the dominating on the puck, heavy-playing Foligno that the Sabres get moving forward, then i think that is worth ~2-3 mil/yr.
If it's the inconsistent Foligno...well then adios hometown.

Girgs is an enigma. Inconsistency again (common theme with the Sabres).
I can't believe all the negative female wanking he gets from the posters on here.
He's way young and still could turn out to be that Latvian locomotive.
I'd prefer Girgs over Larsson moving forward but I'd like to see Murray resign him for a hopefully reasonable contract. Reasonable> a word seldom found when referring to nhl contracts lol.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 10 @ 11:36 AM ET
Because the draft is in buffalo
- GERBE!!!75PTS

New Jersey didn't care
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 11:37 AM ET
I read that Czikas deal d affect the bottom six market like people think.

I also don't feel comfortable wasting six million per on two guys who had a combined seventeen goals last season... If they are stubborn and want three million each then trade them for what you can get and sign more proven commodities for three million that actually deserve it.

I think fair deals for both if they were both to resign would be Girgensons 2 years 2.5 per and Foligno 2 years 2.3ish per

- bluengold12



That's not true players are going to look at the deal and compare them to get more money
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 11:38 AM ET
New Jersey didn't care
- CaptainRivet



This is Buffalo we don't win championships
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:40 AM ET
With the exception of Foligno, every one of these guys can be qualified for an offer of just around $1M (or less). Like Pach, I would take every one of these guys at their qualifying number, and nothing about qualifying them requires that the Sabres match an offer sheet.

So here's what GMTM should do: bring every one of them in with their agents, one by one. Look them straight in the eye

"The Franchise considers you an important element of our future. We have appreciated all you have contributed to our success and we hope that you will partner with us as we move forward to achieve even higher and bigger things. On July 1, we hope to be very very active in bringing other VERY significant contributors to our franchise, and we need to maintain as much flexibility as we can - and preserve as many resources as possible - in order to optimize those possibilities.

We are committing to you with this qualifying offer: we hope you'll commit your patience to us through mid July so we can determine exactly what resources we'll have available over and above this qualifying offer. Hang with us (Player X) and we hope that we can all move forward as a big happy successful as hell family, and we'll know exactly how much we can pay you for your happiness in a month or six weeks."

BOOM.

Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 10 @ 11:40 AM ET
The negativity on this board sometimes is so refreshing
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:45 AM ET
This is Buffalo we don't win championships
- GERBE!!!75PTS


My wife wants to know where you live.

She says she's going to lift you over her head by your shoulders and your hips, and snap your spine over her knee.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 11:45 AM ET
The negativity on this board sometimes is so refreshing
- Havic3814


what negativity
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 10 @ 11:45 AM ET
My wife wants to know where you live.

She says she's going to lift you over her head by your shoulders and your hips, and snap your spine over her knee.

- Der Kaiser




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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
Michael Pachla: Buffalo's free agent list. Re-sign or not re-sign? If so, how much? Pt.2
- Michael Pachla

nice read (reed/reid)

I am not sold on risto being a top pair d man yet though
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
I approve of this message
- Havic3814

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 10 @ 11:49 AM ET
The negativity on this board sometimes is so refreshing
- Havic3814

player x stinks
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 10 @ 11:49 AM ET
player x stinks
- homiedclown



bum
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 10 @ 11:51 AM ET
My wife wants to know where you live.

She says she's going to lift you over her head by your shoulders and your hips, and snap your spine over her knee.

- Der Kaiser





After the comment last night...

This is great
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San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
My wife wants to know where you live.

She says she's going to lift you over her head by your shoulders and your hips, and snap your spine over her knee.

- Der Kaiser


http://youtu.be/VpsZi3d4UCk
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
Because the draft is in buffalo
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I think most fans would like to hear. "There has been a trade. The Buffalo Sabres trade pick 8 (insert more if needed) to the St. Louis Blues for Kevin Shattenkirk."
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 10 @ 11:55 AM ET
Michael Pachla: Buffalo's free agent list. Re-sign or not re-sign? If so, how much? Pt.2
- Michael Pachla


What about the Rochester RFA's?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:57 AM ET

- Der Kaiser

Vanilla Ice !
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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Jun 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
I think most fans would like to hear. "There has been a trade. The Buffalo Sabres trade pick 8 (insert more if needed) to the St. Louis Blues for Kevin Shattenkirk."
- Mentalorgasm5


then you have those fans I have who have no clue who they are and they female dog about it happens all the time you have to make everyone happy
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
With the exception of Foligno, every one of these guys can be qualified for an offer of just around $1M (or less). Like Pach, I would take every one of these guys at their qualifying number, and nothing about qualifying them requires that the Sabres match an offer sheet.

So here's what GMTM should do: bring every one of them in with their agents, one by one. Look them straight in the eye

"The Franchise considers you an important element of our future. We have appreciated all you have contributed to our success and we hope that you will partner with us as we move forward to achieve even higher and bigger things. On July 1, we hope to be very very active in bringing other VERY significant contributors to our franchise, and we need to maintain as much flexibility as we can - and preserve as many resources as possible - in order to optimize those possibilities.

We are committing to you with this qualifying offer: we hope you'll commit your patience to us through mid July so we can determine exactly what resources we'll have available over and above this qualifying offer. Hang with us (Player X) and we hope that we can all move forward as a big happy successful as hell family, and we'll know exactly how much we can pay you for your happiness in a month or six weeks."

BOOM.

- Der Kaiser

Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.
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