Yes he did. They all do, if you think about it. (Hell, Cal Freaking O'Reilly made $700,000 last year - that's 10 years of income for most families.)

I made that post to respond to your suggestion that "THEY ALL LOOK FOR THE MOST MONEY."

Sidney left money on the table to be where he wanted to be.
- Der Kaiser

We are going way off subject Blue and gold said cizikas would not control what Gus would get ..

I said players look at the contract and compare them and agents do it I'm talking about fourth line players and third liners right now

I dont care about superstars they should get paid whatever they want

I was making A bad example I already got hammered

But to say players don't look at contracts and compare them is just a lie even us fans do it when a player signs
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Of course a players agent wouldn't be doing his job to keep up with who got what. But at the end of the day if the client wants to stay he needs to work out the best deal to make that happen and not just for the most money.

You like bringing up Tim Kennedy and how his agent screwed him.

Perfect example of why you can't always just push for the most money.

Of course a players agent wouldn't be doing his job to keep up with who got what. But at the end of the day if the client wants to stay he needs to work out the best deal to make that happen and not just for the most money.

You like bringing up Tim Kennedy and how his agent screwed him.

Perfect example of why you can't always just push for the most money.
- Stripes77

That's what I was trying to explain to blue and gold that agents, players use the contracts

We all went way off the tracks

poll of the day

if gerbe was removed from his parents umbrella, would he have anything better than a trailer or an apartment with 5 other room mates


1. yes, better then an apartment/trailer
2. no, lucky to have a trailer

poll closes at 7 pm eastern time
- homiedclown

so far

2 votes for lucky to have a trailer

poll closes at 7

OK, the way I see it:

We have the draft coming up, free agency, maybe trades, maybe signing someone else's reject (next Briere)....all that is fine and dandy and the reason talking hockey in June in Buffalo is fun. BUT for a moment, forget about all the other potential roster changes and who might be traded, and what I see is:

=Two top-notch premier players coming back who are going to light it up this year. There's no stopping both Sam and Jack from getting 30 goals and 60 pts each, both before they can buy beer. Awesome!

=maybe a healthy, speedy sniper winger will be back. The one guy on our team with wheels who gets 20+ per year not named Kane. Ennis stays healthy and maybe he's a 30-goal guy?

=The increased maturation and hopefully improvement of McCabe and Risto gets us half of our top-4 in a fantastic place.

=Nelson will be next year's Ghost, I predict. It may not happen right away but when he gets the call he is going to be scary good for us.

=Lehner has a lot to prove, and these months off could be all he needs to show he's #1 and not #2 (tee-hee). A good, cheap starter will go a long way.

=The rest of the team now has a year with their coach....last year I saw a team that was trying to fly around but getting beaten soundly for a few months, then things seemed to gel more and more after New Year. Jack picked it up, Kane seemed less of a spaz, even whipping boys like Pysyk, Gio and Foligno picked it up at the end. Big onus on Disco to get this team ready for a full 82+.

=unless moved, I seriously will be shocked if 28 doesn't bounce back. Just 2 years ago we all were in love with Girgs, Foligno and Ennis as the next French Connection. He is still a .35 ppg player, even after the sh!tstorm that was last year.

All things to be positive about, without even a single move or draft pick being made.

Full disclaimer: I'm on vacation and the wife and kid are out of town, just finished my first Corona (sadly, only 11 of her sisters are left) so I am in a heck of a mood.

The Crosby article posted says otherwise.

The grass isn't always greener.

See Brad Richards, Chris Drury, Danny Briere etc etc.

They get paid an insane amount of money as it is.

Many times players leave $ on the table.

Patty Kane and Toews got paid a lot of money (the same exact contract) to stay.

PK could have gotten more from his hometown team though.
- Stripes77

Money isn't an issue to guys like Crosby who are going to play 15+ years and get endorsements. Their situations are 20x different than a bottom 6 player who will be lucky to play 10

so far

2 votes for lucky to have a trailer

poll closes at 7
- homiedclown

I think it's funny that you think I live under my parents "umbrella"

To each his own I guess

Money isn't an issue to guys like Crosby who are going to play 15+ years and get endorsements. Their situations are 20x different than a bottom 6 player who will be lucky to play 10
- sbroads24

Ville Leino...

Tim Kennedy...

all guys that took or wanted more $ and are now out of the NHL

OK, the way I see it:

We have the draft coming up, free agency, maybe trades, maybe signing someone else's reject (next Briere)....all that is fine and dandy and the reason talking hockey in June in Buffalo is fun. BUT for a moment, forget about all the other potential roster changes and who might be traded, and what I see is:

=Two top-notch premier players coming back who are going to light it up this year. There's no stopping both Sam and Jack from getting 30 goals and 60 pts each, both before they can buy beer. Awesome!

=maybe a healthy, speedy sniper winger will be back. The one guy on our team with wheels who gets 20+ per year not named Kane. Ennis stays healthy and maybe he's a 30-goal guy?

=The increased maturation and hopefully improvement of McCabe and Risto gets us half of our top-4 in a fantastic place.

=Nelson will be next year's Ghost, I predict. It may not happen right away but when he gets the call he is going to be scary good for us.

=Lehner has a lot to prove, and these months off could be all he needs to show he's #1 and not #2 (tee-hee). A good, cheap starter will go a long way.

=The rest of the team now has a year with their coach....last year I saw a team that was trying to fly around but getting beaten soundly for a few months, then things seemed to gel more and more after New Year. Jack picked it up, Kane seemed less of a spaz, even whipping boys like Pysyk, Gio and Foligno picked it up at the end. Big onus on Disco to get this team ready for a full 82+.

=unless moved, I seriously will be shocked if 28 doesn't bounce back. Just 2 years ago we all were in love with Girgs, Foligno and Ennis as the next French Connection. He is still a .35 ppg player, even after the sh!tstorm that was last year.

All things to be positive about, without even a single move or draft pick being made.

Full disclaimer: I'm on vacation and the wife and kid are out of town, just finished my first Corona (sadly, only 11 of her sisters are left) so I am in a heck of a mood.
- LandlordTom

Does anybody here really contend that this man will not rise to a challenge?




PS - thanks for the reminder Tom.

Ville Leino...

Tim Kennedy...

all guys that took or wanted more $ and are now out of the NHL
- Stripes77

Does it really matter for Ville Leino i'm sure he's wiping away his tears with his millions of dollars

Ristolainen - YES - 8 years - $44 Million

Girgensons - NO - Trade

Foligno - YES - 2 years - $4.8 Million

Deslauriers - YES - 1 year - $1 Million

McCabe - YES - 4 years - $11 Million

Nelson- YES - 2 years - $2 Million

I think it's funny that you think I live under my parents "umbrella"

To each his own I guess
- GERBE!!!75PTS

never once talked about a job on here

so either your getting a hand out, or going so far in debt you won't afford a double wide


I don't judge

Ville Leino...

Tim Kennedy...

all guys that took or wanted more $ and are now out of the NHL
- Stripes77

Can you name a bunch of players that opted for neither a big pay day or long term security? Because I'm pretty sure that's the point here. Czikas got long term security and a good pay day. 100% of players want at least one of those things

Can you name a bunch of players that opted for neither a big pay day or long term security? Because I'm pretty sure that's the point here. Czikas got long term security and a good pay day. 100% of players want at least one of those things
- sbroads24

PK took a bridge deal before his big pay day.

He gambled and it paid off but what if it wouldn't have?

never once talked about a job on here

so either your getting a hand out, or going so far in debt you won't afford a double wide


I don't judge
- homiedclown

So because he doesn't talk about his job on here, he's automatically jobless and a mooch?

He shouldn't have to mention his job on here, this is a hockey site. Talk hockey.

Ristolainen - YES - 8 years - $44 Million

Girgensons - NO - Trade

Foligno - YES - 2 years - $4.8 Million

Deslauriers - YES - 1 year - $1 Million

McCabe - YES - 4 years - $11 Million

Nelson- YES - 2 years - $2 Million
- Jammerz04

McCabe is worth more than Foligno

Trade Markus pay Girgs for the potential - ship him at TDL if he keeps it up

PK took a bridge deal before his big pay day.

He gambled and it paid off but what if it wouldn't have?
- Stripes77

His bridge deal was a gamble to eventually get a HUGE pay day. Again, what are we talking about here? Gerbe is right, bottom 6 players will push for more money because of Czikas.

They are a ton less likely to take discounts or take the city into consideration than a Crosby or Subban etc

McCabe is worth more than Foligno

Trade Markus pay Girgs for the potential - ship him at TDL if he keeps it up
- Der Kaiser

Either my math is off or I am missing your point...

McCabe =2.75 per

Foligno- 2.4 per

In what he posted

His bridge deal was a gamble to eventually get a HUGE pay day. Again, what are we talking about here? Gerbe is right, bottom 6 players will push for more money because of Czikas.

They are a ton less likely to take discounts or take the city into consideration than a Crosby or Subban etc
- sbroads24

And it's not always going to work out in their favor is what I am saying.

Also just because 1 team paid it doesn't mean 29 others will

never once talked about a job on here

so either your getting a hand out, or going so far in debt you won't afford a double wide


I don't judge
- homiedclown

So when people don't talk about a job that means they make no income is that what I'm getting out of this ? I'll be sure to remember that when I wrap a car this week

Either my math is off or I am missing your point...

McCabe =2.75 per

Foligno- 2.4 per

In what he posted
- Stripes77

11 divided by 4 is 2.25

11 divided by 4 is 2.25
- Der Kaiser

Go back to school

So because he doesn't talk about his job on here, he's automatically jobless and a mooch?

He shouldn't have to mention his job on here, this is a hockey site. Talk hockey.
- Jammerz04

It not automatic, but some posters are on here all the time and talk about their daily lives regularly. Those conversations inevitably mention work, and we get to know one another. Like, for example

Cabin sells manufacturing parts and equip
89 works at a hotel in Vegas
Stripes is a hockey ref.
Homie works nights and sells fish on the side.
Jochfr is a male stripper
Deadhead slings booze
Indy is a engineer
Goose worked for verizon
Feet on Air is a law student
I'm on disability and steal my mothers Social security checks

Go back to school
- Stripes77

school. Seven letters

So when people don't talk about a job that means they make no income is that what I'm getting out of this ? I'll be sure to remember that when I wrap a car this week
- GERBE!!!75PTS

you must be dealing good sh!t