belcherbd
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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to me, #9 and the 2 2nd's is a reasonable overpayment.
anything more than that, and hurts the canadiens more than it helps imo. - Tumbleweed
9 and the two 2nds would also be a good deal I think.
Goes against his retool plan though. |
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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to me, #9 and the 2 2nd's is a reasonable overpayment.
anything more than that, and hurts the canadiens more than it helps imo. - Tumbleweed
But it is not interesting to us. We would rather keep the #5 if that is the case. If MTL wants Dubois(when will another one come around?) they would need to over pay. #9 + 2 2nds is not an overpayment. It may ven be under payment. Last time a t5 pick was traded it was 5 going down to 7. the 7 added a 2nd and 3rd. one could easily say 2 more spots would be another 2nd and 3rd, so #9 + 2 2nds + 2 3rds as a minimum. Gallagher is easily worth a 2nd and 2 3rds, and we are talking about a starting point with the picks. |
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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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to me, #9 and the 2 2nd's is a reasonable overpayment.
anything more than that, and hurts the canadiens more than it helps imo. - Tumbleweed
Two seconds who may or may not ever amount to anything, aren't worth very much at all when compared to a sure fire NHL player with skill in the top five overall. |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Previous blog
yes he looks really really good. He just hope he can translate that to nhl....some cant. I believe he will.
- SMBDragon
Its a big step for Goalies. Toughest position in the game to play. It's the most physically demanding and mentally demanding job in the game. I have seem so many goalies with all the physical tools to be great in the NHL and fall short because they are the mentally unprepared. - thundachunk
which was my point when I said some cant ....but the kid reminds me of schneider, real calm cool and collected. Think he'll be great.
Markstrom had a few bad initial outings early on but has looked solid since. I wonder how much involvement Linden has with the young players (if any) because he seems to have a real calming influenece. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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But it is not interesting to us. We would rather keep the #5 if that is the case. If MTL wants Dubois(when will another one come around?) they would need to over pay. #9 + 2 2nds is not an overpayment. It may ven be under payment. Last time a t5 pick was traded it was 5 going down to 7. the 7 added a 2nd and 3rd. one could easily say 2 more spots would be another 2nd and 3rd, so #9 + 2 2nds + 2 3rds as a minimum. Gallagher is easily worth a 2nd and 2 3rds, and we are talking about a starting point with the picks. - Retinalz
i disagree with your valuation. to each their own.
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Two seconds who may or may not ever amount to anything, aren't worth very much at all when compared to a sure fire NHL player with skill in the top five overall. - kaptaan
and the #9 |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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But it is not interesting to us. We would rather keep the #5 if that is the case. If MTL wants Dubois(when will another one come around?) they would need to over pay. #9 + 2 2nds is not an overpayment. It may ven be under payment. Last time a t5 pick was traded it was 5 going down to 7. the 7 added a 2nd and 3rd. one could easily say 2 more spots would be another 2nd and 3rd, so #9 + 2 2nds + 2 3rds as a minimum. Gallagher is easily worth a 2nd and 2 3rds, and we are talking about a starting point with the picks. - Retinalz
I dont usually get involved with too much trade talk but Id have to agree with you here....would have to be something along #5 for #9+gallagher+another pick like 2nd or 3rd
Top 5 picks are at a premium. Usually a good player is added as well as an additional pick. Thats the norm |
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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i disagree with your valuation. to each their own. - Tumbleweed
Ya but, your team thought Phil Kessel was worth 2OA... |
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Don't shoot the messenger.
On the 1040 Pratt said this is the hot rumor of what is being offered.
To MTL 5OA
To VAN. 9 th OA 39 th OA and Brendan Gallagher.
That is a top 6 ready now player. Sergachev at 9 , D fixed, and a second round pick like a Tyler Benson comparable. It also makes Rodin or Sven tradable which would probably be a third round pick.
It is something to think about if that type of offer is there.
Gallagher BC boy with four years left at 3.25 per. - VANTEL
Haha what a troll. Not a chance Montreal is doing that. Bergevin would have to have a real hate on for Gallagher and extremely high expectations from the potential pick.
Scenarios galore. |
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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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Moving up will cost.
So stay at 5. - Marwood
Would you do it for the 5th, Hansen, the Torteralla gift whilst taking on one of their crappier contracts (ie Tyutin, Savard, Tyutin)? |
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#9, Gallagher, and any picks is more than enough to move up to #5 ...realistically it would be say #9, a 2nd, and a 4th or 5th for the #5...even that might be much |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Puljujarvi has certainly lost a bit of his shine but I don't get the Raymond comparison at all.
He is a very complete player and most scouts agreed was the more NHL ready player prior to Laine going off in the final month. I think Laine has really showed his potential is lights out but Puljujarvi is still a very special player and IMO will have a bigger impact next season.
I personally think CLB is just trying to see if they can get someone to overpay for him. - belcherbd
A truly bizarre comparison...Pulj is a stud |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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I wouldn't want Gallagher on the team for the same reasons i wouldn't want Lucic on the team - NorthNuck
But yet both are consistent 20+ goal guys. Sure Gallagher is another Burrows type and Lucic is a goof but really they fill needs we have. |
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Would you do it for the 5th, Hansen, the Torteralla gift whilst taking on one of their crappier contracts (ie Tyutin, Savard, Tyutin)? - Rocket_Launcher
It was mentioned last night do you see Hansen waiving his NTC to play for Torts |
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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#9, Gallagher, and any picks is more than enough to move up to #5 ...realistically it would be say #9, a 2nd, and a 4th or 5th for the #5...even that might be much - Redmile247
Rofl, That is horrible. Read my previous post about the last time a top 5 was moved. and it was only 2 spots not 4. #9, Gallagher, #39 would be the deal, unless MTL swaps Gallagher for more picks(2 more 2nds and a 3rd) one of the 2nds could be a 2017 if it makes them feel better. Even then, Dubois has more value to us than Brown or Sergachev. |
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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It was mentioned last night do you see Hansen waiving his NTC to play for Torts - VANTEL
No, but he could waive somewhere that has an asset CBJ want that we could acquire. Personally I don't want to move up as we don't have the assets. and to move down requires an over payment like #9, Gallagher, #39 |
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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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#9, Gallagher, and any picks is more than enough to move up to #5 ...realistically it would be say #9, a 2nd, and a 4th or 5th for the #5...even that might be much - Redmile247
That's what you might want the Nux to accept, but not happening unless JB gets a legit top six player right now. |
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fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: BC Joined: 05.06.2010
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It was mentioned last night do you see Hansen waiving his NTC to play for Torts - VANTEL
Yah, I forgot. I suppose Burrows and/or Edler won't work either. |
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#9, Gallagher, and any picks is more than enough to move up to #5 ...realistically it would be say #9, a 2nd, and a 4th or 5th for the #5...even that might be much - Redmile247
I wouldn't trade the 5 th for the 9 th and 39 th or even another second rounder seeing they have two. If they weren't offering Gallagher in the package I would be walking up to the stage and drafting my future top center. |
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allsports
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.17.2015
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Moving up will cost.
So stay at 5. - Marwood
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phyllee
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 06.24.2014
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I wouldn't trade the 5 th for the 9 th and 39 th or even another second rounder seeing they have two. If they weren't offering Gallagher in the package I would be walking up to the stage and drafting my future top center. - VANTEL
The Canucks are having their first draft party, this is JB's 3rd draft, he has something up his sleeve. |
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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I wouldn't trade the 5 th for the 9 th and 39 th or even another second rounder seeing they have two. If they weren't offering Gallagher in the package I would be walking up to the stage and drafting my future top center. - VANTEL
Exactly, and when was the last time a French Canadian had 1c potential? The youngest I think is Bergeron. That was 13 years ago. |
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I wouldn't trade the 5 th for the 9 th and 39 th or even another second rounder seeing they have two. If they weren't offering Gallagher in the package I would be walking up to the stage and drafting my future top center. - VANTEL
Totally agree. If Montreal wants a big French first line center, then they will have to over-pay. Gallagher or Galchenyuk plus a 2nd and the 9th for the 5th, Borrows, and one of the d prospects (Brisbois, Neil, Tate, Subban). |
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