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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Buffalo's free agent list. Re-sign or not to re-sign? If so, how much? Pt.3
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 11 @ 5:18 PM ET
it's not an asian massage parlor
- homiedclown



I like a hot towel for my face and the back of my neck while they wash my feet in ice water.

Chaka-ko, ladies!
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 11 @ 5:19 PM ET
Nope - he won't, clb might ask for him but gmtm would never do it. Common logic - Samson was a #2 pick 2 years ago, is a proven NHL commodity and will only get better. Why would you trade him for a #3 who may end up great, but is unproven NHL wise and is 2 years behind in the development curve.
- turbo044



So yesterday we were trading Risto and today Reinhart? Time for some to check themselves in to Bry-Lin.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 11 @ 5:28 PM ET
I think Murray is gonna stay at 8 and pick a dman, probably Chick-rin and also make a trade on Day one at the draft.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 11 @ 5:32 PM ET
What's been going on in hockey land? I've been too busy the last few days to keep up. Lol
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 11 @ 5:35 PM ET
Nope - he won't, clb might ask for him but gmtm would never do it. Common logic - Samson was a #2 pick 2 years ago, is a proven NHL commodity and will only get better. Why would you trade him for a #3 who may end up great, but is unproven NHL wise and is 2 years behind in the development curve.
- turbo044



That was not what the discussion was about. They were talking about if he was in this draft class, not being traded.

Someone said the draft was not that deep, and the rebuttal was if Reinhart was in this draft, he would go 5 or lower. That was followed up by saying he would be in the discussion as being taken 3rd overall if he was in this draft class.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 11 @ 5:50 PM ET
I think Murray is gonna stay at 8 and pick a dman, probably Chick-rin and also make a trade on Day one at the draft.
- mhp


I think you're right. Chychrun makes too much sense with his upside and relations to the Pegula's. As for the Reinhart/risto trade proposals, it's funny that people underestimate the values of our "superstars" and overstate the values of our 3rd/4th liners. If gmtm wanted to get to #3 or #4 be should be able to do it with #8, grigs or Pysyk (depending on if it's clb or edm) and a 2nd or 3rd rounder or a prospect. EDM wants to draft a dman and clb a center and neither should be picked at 3 and 4.
mhp
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Jun 11 @ 6:03 PM ET
I think you're right. Chychrun makes too much sense with his upside and relations to the Pegula's. As for the Reinhart/risto trade proposals, it's funny that people underestimate the values of our "superstars" and overstate the values of our 3rd/4th liners. If gmtm wanted to get to #3 or #4 be should be able to do it with #8, grigs or Pysyk (depending on if it's clb or edm) and a 2nd or 3rd rounder or a prospect. EDM wants to draft a dman and clb a center and neither should be picked at 3 and 4.
- turbo044


I think after the first 5 there will be a run of a dmen selected. I would bet Calgary goes for Juolvei and Arizona taps Sergachev. I am sure Murray would like to trade up to 4 and who knows what the asking price will be to move up 4 slots.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 11 @ 6:04 PM ET
I think Murray is gonna stay at 8 and pick a dman, probably Chick-rin and also make a trade on Day one at the draft.
- mhp


This is what I hope he does. Not interested in giving up the farm to move up 3 or 4 spots.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 11 @ 6:04 PM ET
I think Murray is gonna stay at 8 and pick a dman, probably Chick-rin and also make a trade on Day one at the draft.
- mhp


My guess is chychrun and Hoffman via trade.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 11 @ 6:06 PM ET
I think Murray is gonna stay at 8 and pick a dman, probably Chick-rin and also make a trade on Day one at the draft.
- mhp



If no trade up going with Clayton Keller he's everything we need and more
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 11 @ 6:06 PM ET
This is what I hope he does. Not interested in giving up the farm to move up 3 or 4 spots.
- SabreWest


CBJ supposedly already got 2 legit offers for their pick, wonder if we were one of them.
mhp
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Jun 11 @ 6:12 PM ET
This is what I hope he does. Not interested in giving up the farm to move up 3 or 4 spots.
- SabreWest


It doesn't make sense to do that, agreed. And I would love Tkachuk in Buff. Maybe Calgary and Edm swap picks, the Oilers get their dman and the Flames get Tkachuk.
mhp
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Jun 11 @ 6:15 PM ET
My guess is chychrun and Hoffman via trade.
- Sabresfan-365


I can't disagree. There could be another trade with Ottawa. It is so quiet I have no clue who Murray will trade for. And realistically, a Hoffman trade would make sense.

Maybe they select Chick-run and make a trade with Anaheim for either Vatanen or Fowler. They'll really shore up the D with those moves on day one. Just spitballing. Then maybe sign UFA forward. Call it a day.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jun 11 @ 6:17 PM ET
CBJ supposedly already got 2 legit offers for their pick, wonder if we were one of them.
- Sabresfan-365


I hope they asked for Marcus 🙏🏿
mhp
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Jun 11 @ 6:19 PM ET
If no trade up going with Clayton Keller he's everything we need and more
- GERBE!!!75PTS



I don't see that although ya never know. Logic tells me it'll be a dman at 8, what we need. Build the future d core.

Chick-rin
Risto
Fowler/Vatanen
Guhle
McCabe
Pysyk
Nelson
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 11 @ 6:24 PM ET
My guess is chychrun and Hoffman via trade.
- Sabresfan-365


Reasonable assumption - a sniper Iike Hoffman would look great with eichel, though defense would be scary with that line. Couple this by signing vesey, trading for or signing a LHD and re-signing Johnson at G and I call that a great offseason
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 11 @ 6:25 PM ET
I can't disagree. There could be another trade with Ottawa. It is so quiet I have no clue who Murray will trade for. And realistically, a Hoffman trade would make sense.

Maybe they select Chick-run and make a trade with Anaheim for either Vatanen or Fowler. They'll really shore up the D with those moves on day one. Just spitballing. Then maybe sign UFA forward. Call it a day.

- mhp



I mean even without the ottawa connection it makes sense. We want a goal scorer, he wants to get paid and his team doesn't want to pay him.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jun 11 @ 6:30 PM ET
I don't see that although ya never know. Logic tells me it'll be a dman at 8, what we need. Build the future d core.

Chick-rin
Risto
Fowler/Vatanen
Guhle
McCabe
Pysyk
Nelson

- mhp



That is true but you could get a quality defenseman in the second round though
History has shown you can possibly get a franchise defensemen in the second round or a very good defenseman

With our pipeline so dry on wing and we need some speed in this organization He could be our version of Johnny hockey I see no flaws in his game only weaknesses he's small But he has Great puck protection he can't get knocked off the puck easily, hes super fast , he's an absolute sniper ,his hockey sense is Great , and he's great at passing and making plays I think this guy is the total package
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 11 @ 6:31 PM ET
I mean even without the ottawa connection it makes sense. We want a goal scorer, he wants to get paid and his team doesn't want to pay him.
- Sabresfan-365



trade for Hoffman and Vatanen, draft Chicky and sign Stamkos and done.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 11 @ 6:32 PM ET
trade for Hoffman and Vatanen, draft Chicky and sign Stamkos and done.
- mhp



not sure they could do all 3.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 11 @ 6:36 PM ET
not sure they could do all 3.
- Sabresfan-365


True. If we moved 8+ for a player (Vatanen) I'm good with that. I do see your point there. Any trade would involve 8 and I'm ok with that as well.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 11 @ 6:36 PM ET
May I ask why Vatanen? Not questioning the talent, just the handedness.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 11 @ 6:39 PM ET
My guess is chychrun and Hoffman via trade.
- Sabresfan-365

Same, actually.

I'm predicting we sign Yandle too.


Stamkos stays in Tampa.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
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Jun 11 @ 6:39 PM ET
That is true but you could get a quality defenseman in the second round though
History has shown you can possibly get a franchise defensemen in the second round or a very good defenseman

With our pipeline so dry on wing and we need some speed in this organization He could be our version of Johnny hockey I see no flaws in his game only weaknesses he's small But he has Great puck protection he can't get knocked off the puck easily, hes super fast , he's an absolute sniper ,his hockey sense is Great , and he's great at passing and making plays I think this guy is the total package

- GERBE!!!75PTS


anything is possible. they could use it, trade up or down or trade it for a player from a team that wants an additional pick in the 1st, i.e. Anaheim.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jun 11 @ 6:46 PM ET
anything is possible. they could use it, trade up or down or trade it for a player from a team that wants an additional pick in the 1st, i.e. Anaheim.
- mhp


http://youtu.be/R17NWnp78sA

just watch this imagine him with Jack those two together speeding down Center ice together ". ...those two could be a magical combination
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