We still have 800k of it. Also if he retires early we are screwed.
- Retinalz

Should we continue from the last blog with Lou retirement discussion.

@TheGame316

I also remember something about wanting a t6 player as well. I took that as 5OA for a 1st(likely has to be t15 unless...)2nd, top6 player(...this is a higher end t6 player making it worth going lower)

IF TB offered it, I would consider Drouin+27+44+57. Drouin needs to grow up..but he will still be an elite 1LW player.
- Retinalz

I would do #5 for Drouin straight up

Hw was the only Tampa player who showed up in that series against the Penguins

He's gonna be that good

I would do #5 for Drouin straight up

Hw was the only Tampa player who showed up in that series against the Penguins

He's gonna be that good
- TheGame316

I think that would be everyones consensus here. One can hope.

I would do #5 for Drouin straight up

Hw was the only Tampa player who showed up in that series against the Penguins

He's gonna be that good
- TheGame316

Everyone would, except TBY.

We got rid of Lou's contract (for the most part) and got Marky. I'll consider that a massive win for Van.
- LordHumungous

Lou's contract really isn't that bad considering what we ended up giving to an inferior Ryan Miller

Despite Markstroms killer AHL numbers he still looks like a mid tier NHL starter and is likely just keeping the seat warm until Demko is ready to go

Trade looks like a lose/lose

If Luongo didn't "need" to go (for a myriad of non hockey reasons) Canucks would have been better off just keeping him

(In reality, would have been better of keeping Schnieder but thats a whole nother discussion
)

I would do #5 for Drouin straight up

Hw was the only Tampa player who showed up in that series against the Penguins

He's gonna be that good
- TheGame316

That is horrible value for us. Drouins skills may be worth 5OA, but his attitude isn't. I would much prefer Dubois. I am guessing JB would as well. There have already been rumors of a package involving Drouin for 5OA.

That is horrible value for us. Drouins skills may be worth 5OA, but his attitude isn't. I would much prefer Dubois. I am guessing JB would as well. There have already been rumors of a package involving Drouin for 5OA.
- Retinalz

I'm with you on this one, (frank) Drouin. I want the size and skill Dubois or Tkachuk brings

That is horrible value for us. Drouins skills may be worth 5OA, but his attitude isn't. I would much prefer Dubois. I am guessing JB would as well. There have already been rumors of a package involving Drouin for 5OA.
- Retinalz

I would do #5 for Drouin straight up

Hw was the only Tampa player who showed up in that series against the Penguins

He's gonna be that good
- TheGame316

I don't think Tampa would do that. Drouin has shown flashes of brilliance already and he's still very young. We are once again talking about a proven talent vs potential which, as most of us agree, is trumped by the former. As far as the one off-ice issue, we really don't know the full story of what went on (it could of been bad advice being given by his agent or simply a case of immaturity - it looks like him and the organization have moved passed that, however, as evidenced by his excellent showing in the playoffs and receiving the coach's trust/support. I feel Drouin has a very bright future as an elite level player - sooner than later.

- Marwood

Do we really know what his attitude is like? I don't know if he really got a fair shake in TB. Johnson has people he likes and doesn't. Sometimes characters don't mesh. The same could be said for McCann when he was drafted. First comments and some of us crucified him. Maybe it was the same with WD. We don't know. We are all assuming. He would put up 30 points on the 2nd line and that is exactly what we need.

I don't think Tampa would do that. Drouin has shown flashes of brilliance already and he's still very young. We are once again talking about a proven talent vs potential which, as most of us agree, is trumped by the former. As far as the one off-ice issue, we really don't know the full story of what went on (it could of been bad advice being given by his agent or simply a case of immaturity - it looks like him and the organization have moved passed that, however, as evidenced by his excellent showing in the playoffs and receiving the coach's trust/support. I feel Drouin has a very bright future as an elite level player - sooner than later.
- Zogg

Lou's contract really isn't that bad considering what we ended up giving to an inferior Ryan Miller

Despite Markstroms killer AHL numbers he still looks like a mid tier NHL starter and is likely just keeping the seat warm until Demko is ready to go

Trade looks like a lose/lose

If Luongo didn't "need" to go (for a myriad of non hockey reasons) Canucks would have been better off just keeping him

(In reality, would have been better of keeping Schnieder but thats a whole nother discussion
)
- TheGame316

The whole goalie thing was handled poorly. Why give Lou that huge contract with Scheider in the AHL and looking ready? unless you planned on moving Schneider?

Talk about waffling on a decision. nuts.

I liked Lou for the most part until he started whining about his contract sucking... fecking diva. the poor millionaire.

Anyway, as it stands, I hope JB would seriously consider trading one of Markstrom or Miller if a good offer comes along... Miller isn't the goalie of the future, Markstrom could be if they decide to go in that direction, and if they commit money and term to Markstrom, they should consider offers for Demko.

The idea of having 2 goalies is great, but if you commit money and term to one, make them the #1 and move the other. No different to the cons of having Green as an Assistant to WD, it might work short term but can be grating long term, you know your days are numbered.

The whole goalie thing was handled poorly. Why give Lou that huge contract with Scheider in the AHL and looking ready? unless you planned on moving Schneider?

Talk about waffling on a decision. nuts.

I liked Lou for the most part until he started whining about his contract sucking... fecking diva. the poor millionaire.

Anyway, as it stands, I hope JB would seriously consider trading one of Markstrom or Miller if a good offer comes along... Miller isn't the goalie of the future, Markstrom could be if they decide to go in that direction, and if they commit money and term to Markstrom, they should consider offers for Demko.

The idea of having 2 goalies is great, but if you commit money and term to one, make them the #1 and move the other. No different to the cons of having Green as an Assistant to WD, it might work short term but can be grating long term, you know your days are numbered.
- hillbillydeluxe

Markstrom has done nothing to warrant consideration in term or dollars...

The whole goalie thing was handled poorly. Why give Lou that huge contract with Scheider in the AHL and looking ready? unless you planned on moving Schneider?

Talk about waffling on a decision. nuts.

I liked Lou for the most part until he started whining about his contract sucking... fecking diva. the poor millionaire.

Anyway, as it stands, I hope JB would seriously consider trading one of Markstrom or Miller if a good offer comes along... Miller isn't the goalie of the future, Markstrom could be if they decide to go in that direction, and if they commit money and term to Markstrom, they should consider offers for Demko.

The idea of having 2 goalies is great, but if you commit money and term to one, make them the #1 and move the other. No different to the cons of having Green as an Assistant to WD, it might work short term but can be grating long term, you know your days are numbered.
- hillbillydeluxe

Sorry accidental flag.

The team should never take offers for Demko right now. His value is the lowest it will ever be. Markstrom is not the goalie of the future, he is turning 27 and still not established. We should treat Markstromg like Bishop(seemingly) is being treated. Our solid goalie for now, but once the younger goalie comes into hsi own, trade him. rumors are that TB may move Bishop and go with the younger goalie. This would be for 2 reasons. 1 the yougner goalie is proving his worth, and will be cheaper. Bishop will be looking at 6-7mil after next season. Makrstormg will be the same way. we will give him a 2 or 3 year deal, and if he plays well enough to be a #1 will want to get paid. This is when Demko becomes the #1 and Marky gets dealt.

Markstrom has done nothing to warrant consideration in term or dollars...
- RoloTahmasee

I don't think he has done much to earn a contract beyond a couple seasons and couple million dollars per. JB is in a strange spot. 1 more year left on both Miller and Markstrom's contracts.

Do you re up Miller? Do you let one walk or move one at tdl?

Guessing neither will be moved at tdl if the Canucks are in the hunt for the playoffs at tdl...

another goalie controversy on the horizon?

The whole goalie thing was handled poorly. Why give Lou that huge contract with Scheider in the AHL and looking ready? unless you planned on moving Schneider?

Talk about waffling on a decision. nuts.

I liked Lou for the most part until he started whining about his contract sucking... fecking diva. the poor millionaire.

Anyway, as it stands, I hope JB would seriously consider trading one of Markstrom or Miller if a good offer comes along... Miller isn't the goalie of the future, Markstrom could be if they decide to go in that direction, and if they commit money and term to Markstrom, they should consider offers for Demko.

The idea of having 2 goalies is great, but if you commit money and term to one, make them the #1 and move the other. No different to the cons of having Green as an Assistant to WD, it might work short term but can be grating long term, you know your days are numbered.
- hillbillydeluxe

In hind site, Canucks should have traded Lou and Kesler (we all know the rumours with Schneider). Instead Schneider forced Gillis' hand. Thus stuck with Lou, a goalie that was already ready to move on....

Canucks gotta seem fortunate they have Marky for now, with Demko on the way.

I don't think he has done much to earn a contract beyond a couple seasons and couple million dollars per. JB is in a strange spot. 1 more year left on both Miller and Markstrom's contracts.

Do you re up Miller? Do you let one walk or move one at tdl?

Guessing neither will be moved at tdl if the Canucks are in the hunt for the playoffs at tdl...

Another goalie controversy on the horizon?
- hillbillydeluxe

I hope so.

@TheGame316

I also remember something about wanting a t6 player as well. I took that as 5OA for a 1st(likely has to be t15 unless...)2nd, top6 player(...this is a higher end t6 player making it worth going lower)

IF TB offered it, I would consider Drouin+27+44+57. Drouin needs to grow up..but he will still be an elite 1LW player.
- Retinalz

All that for a "?" at #5.

Not. Even. Close.

I don't think he has done much to earn a contract beyond a couple seasons and couple million dollars per. JB is in a strange spot. 1 more year left on both Miller and Markstrom's contracts.

Do you re up Miller? Do you let one walk or move one at tdl?

Guessing neither will be moved at tdl if the Canucks are in the hunt for the playoffs at tdl...

another goalie controversy on the horizon?
- hillbillydeluxe

I say either give markstromg 3x3 and get miller on a 3 or 4x1(would be same cap hit as now) and Demko 2 years in the AHL. Re-evaluate what to do about Markstrom after Demko has backed him up for 2 years. Also Miller gets either no NTC or limited with at least 5 teams on it. I think he would resign for 1 last year and doubt he wants to move out east. The teams besides Van he would want no longer need his services.

Sorry accidental flag.

The team should never take offers for Demko right now. His value is the lowest it will ever be. Markstrom is not the goalie of the future, he is turning 27 and still not established. We should treat Markstromg like Bishop(seemingly) is being treated. Our solid goalie for now, but once the younger goalie comes into hsi own, trade him. rumors are that TB may move Bishop and go with the younger goalie. This would be for 2 reasons. 1 the yougner goalie is proving his worth, and will be cheaper. Bishop will be looking at 6-7mil after next season. Makrstormg will be the same way. we will give him a 2 or 3 year deal, and if he plays well enough to be a #1 will want to get paid. This is when Demko becomes the #1 and Marky gets dealt.
- Retinalz

I am not sure Demko's value is the lowest... coming off a great college season, nominated for awards, etc.

Expecting Demko will be in the AHL for at least one full season and likely another 1 or 2 couldn't hurt. Which leaves maybe 1 season at 925k in the NHL as a backup, and another 1 or 2 year cheap contract. but as soon as any goalie is pegged to be the starter, they start expecting more money. minimum I'd guess around 3 mil per... Talbot is getting 4.166 and Jones is getting 3

I might be agreeing with you here. it will be interesting to watch it unfold.

I hope so.
- thundachunk

At least it can be a legitimate topic on the radio instead of made up cr4p.

The whole goalie thing was handled poorly. Why give Lou that huge contract with Scheider in the AHL and looking ready? unless you planned on moving Schneider?

Talk about waffling on a decision. nuts.

I liked Lou for the most part until he started whining about his contract sucking... fecking diva. the poor millionaire.

Anyway, as it stands, I hope JB would seriously consider trading one of Markstrom or Miller if a good offer comes along... Miller isn't the goalie of the future, Markstrom could be if they decide to go in that direction, and if they commit money and term to Markstrom, they should consider offers for Demko.

The idea of having 2 goalies is great, but if you commit money and term to one, make them the #1 and move the other. No different to the cons of having Green as an Assistant to WD, it might work short term but can be grating long term, you know your days are numbered.
- hillbillydeluxe

Why would you ever trade either one? There's no guarantee that Demko will be as good as hoped (see Markstrom in Florida), it's likely yes, but not a guarantee. You need Markstrom to at least be a bridge for 3-4 years until Demko's ready because otherwise there's no one else and wasting assets to trade for a goalie or sign one in UFA is a dumb idea.

Miller, on the other hand should be driven to the airport and sent packing to Las Vegas.

All that for a "?" at #5.

Not. Even. Close.
- As_I_See_It

Yeah I don't get that? Drouin, 1st and 2 2nds????? for 5OA?

Who comes up with that? TBY wouldn't trade Drouin for the 5OA straight up.

Even EA sports video game would reject that trade.

I am not sure Demko's value is the lowest... coming off a great college season, nominated for awards, etc.

Expecting Demko will be in the AHL for at least one full season and likely another 1 or 2 couldn't hurt. Which leaves maybe 1 season at 925k in the NHL as a backup, and another 1 or 2 year cheap contract. but as soon as any goalie is pegged to be the starter, they start expecting more money. minimum I'd guess around 3 mil per... Talbot is getting 4.166 and Jones is getting 3

I might be agreeing with you here. it will be interesting to watch it unfold.
- hillbillydeluxe

Jones and Talbot are both on show me you're #1 goalies. Talbot hasn't shown he's worth more than that now but Jones is going to get a big raise after next season where I'm sure they'll extend him at much more than the $3m he makes now

I don't think he has done much to earn a contract beyond a couple seasons and couple million dollars per. JB is in a strange spot. 1 more year left on both Miller and Markstrom's contracts.

Do you re up Miller? Do you let one walk or move one at tdl?

Guessing neither will be moved at tdl if the Canucks are in the hunt for the playoffs at tdl...

another goalie controversy on the horizon?
- hillbillydeluxe

Millers to old to get another contract, honestly depending how much he wants id be all for trading miller now if we can and signing Reimer to a 3 year term