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allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 12 @ 2:24 PM ET
Yes, it's legal now instead of happening on the sly. I wonder if that means teams are talking to them even earlier now?

I always found it funny that minutes after free agency opened a bunch of deals were being announced.

- golfingsince


Because of exactly what you said the deals are already done just not published for the world to know
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:25 PM ET
Pens and Flyers I think.

I'm pretty sure the Habs also traded for Sundin's rights before he signed with the Canucks.

- golfingsince


Think about Ryan Parent. Gets traded off the flyers for nothing

Coach: Sorry to tell you ryan, but you've been traded to the Preds.

RP: That sucks... who did you trade me for?

Coach: Nothing. GTFO.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:27 PM ET
Why would you be livid? If Benning thinks he projects higher than Tkachuk or PLD perhaps he is right...keep in mind that he knows more about these prospects than fans and scouts. Drafts never follow the consensus
- CanuckDon

i think that the point is that if benning identifies "down draft" players who are on his top 5, he should trade down and pick up another asset.

to take it to an extreme, if he thinks a player ranked 50th is the best player in the draft, it's probably not a good idea to take him at 5, even if he's eventually proven right.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:28 PM ET
Because of exactly what you said the deals are already done just not published for the world to know
- allsports

Put it this way with all the media saying it looks like Ericsson to Van , someone has to be talking.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 12 @ 2:28 PM ET
I wonder if you guys have an outside shot at Puljujärvi?

If the rumours about CLB not being too keen on Pulj are true and EDM SHOULD be looking for a D (or trading for one?)... I wonder if there's a chance (albeit a small one) that Puljujärvi could fall to you guys?

- As_I_See_It


I'm in the minority here but it's different dominating world juniors compared to dominating in the NHL. Dare I say Hodgson in our thread, Sandlak too. I'm just not convinced but if he does fall to us and Benning does like Brown more I hope he trades down and pick up a young top 6 forward, 1st and 2nd rounder.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 12 @ 2:29 PM ET
If Benning didn't give stupid $$$ to Dorsett and Sbisa, they'd be in position to go after Lucic AND Ericsson
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 12 @ 2:30 PM ET
Put it this way with all the media saying it looks like Ericsson to Van , someone has to be talking.
- VANTEL


Yep
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:30 PM ET
I wonder if you guys have an outside shot at Puljujärvi?

If the rumours about CLB not being too keen on Pulj are true and EDM SHOULD be looking for a D (or trading for one?)... I wonder if there's a chance (albeit a small one) that Puljujärvi could fall to you guys?

A lot would need to fall into place, but...

- As_I_See_It

yeah, i've thought about that too.

now it seems that the fanbase is fixated on dubois. there's going to be an outcry from a lot of fans if puljujarvi is taken instead of dubois.

but that would be an amazing gift to the canucks. (but sadly it's a long shot at best)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:30 PM ET
I'm in the minority here but it's different dominating world juniors compared to dominating in the NHL. Dare I say Hodgson in our thread, Sandra too. I'm just not convinced but if he does fall to us and Benning does like Brown more is hope need trade down and pick up a young top 6 forward, 1st and 2nd rounder.
- allsports

That's the scenario I like
golfingsince
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Jun 12 @ 2:31 PM ET
If Benning didn't give stupid $$$ to Dorsett and Sbisa, they'd be in position to go after Lucic AND Ericsson
- TheGame316

Don't forget Sutter
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:31 PM ET
i think that the point is that if benning identifies "down draft" players who are on his top 5, he should trade down and pick up another asset.

to take it to an extreme, if he thinks a player ranked 50th is the best player in the draft, it's probably not a good idea to take him at 5, even if he's eventually proven right.

- RealityChecker


Patrick White
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
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Jun 12 @ 2:32 PM ET
If Benning didn't give stupid $$$ to Dorsett and Sbisa, they'd be in position to go after Lucic AND Ericsson
- TheGame316


allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 12 @ 2:33 PM ET
Patrick White
- bloatedmosquito


Nonis though
golfingsince
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Jun 12 @ 2:33 PM ET
yeah, i've thought about that too.

now it seems that the fanbase is fixated on dubois. there's going to be an outcry from a lot of fans if puljujarvi is taken instead of dubois.

but that would be an amazing gift to the canucks. (but sadly it's a long shot at best)

- RealityChecker


I think Puljujarvi has a decent shot of becoming the best player in the draft.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:33 PM ET
Patrick White
- bloatedmosquito

patrick white and daniel rahimi for tyson barrie. get it done benning.
golfingsince
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Jun 12 @ 2:34 PM ET
patrick white and daniel rahimi for tyson barrie. get it done benning.
- RealityChecker


Gillis' best work.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 12 @ 2:35 PM ET
i think that the point is that if benning identifies "down draft" players who are on his top 5, he should trade down and pick up another asset.

to take it to an extreme, if he thinks a player ranked 50th is the best player in the draft, it's probably not a good idea to take him at 5, even if he's eventually proven right.

- RealityChecker


Yeah thats what i ment, would much rather trade to 9 with montreal get a nice package and get brown then.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 12 @ 2:36 PM ET
That's the scenario I like
- VANTEL


That scenario you heard of the 5OA for Gallagher+9 overall+ 2nd would be solid, unlikely but i wish
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:36 PM ET
I think Puljujarvi has a decent shot of becoming the best player in the draft.
- golfingsince

i don't know. i haven't watched any of these prospects.

in a general sense though, i'm always skeptical when players drop without games going on. i get how some players move up due to strong playoffs and int'l competition in may of the draft year (egs tckachuk and laine) but how does a consensus tier 1 player (who some had at 2) drop without games going on?

it's just the nature of the media to try "new angles" and "fresh analysis" to seem different.

imo, take the player who was a consensus top 3 all season.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:37 PM ET
If Benning didn't give stupid $$$ to Dorsett and Sbisa, they'd be in position to go after Lucic AND Ericsson
- TheGame316

They still could be.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:37 PM ET
Gillis' best work.
- golfingsince

seems like that cap space player isn't a bad guy to have on the roster.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:39 PM ET
patrick white and daniel rahimi for tyson barrie. get it done benning.
- RealityChecker


Yeah, that's when Doug Wilson was hitting the crack pipe pretty hard. I heard the recovery has been long and hard.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:39 PM ET
I wonder if you guys have an outside shot at Puljujärvi?

If the rumours about CLB not being too keen on Pulj are true and EDM SHOULD be looking for a D (or trading for one?)... I wonder if there's a chance (albeit a small one) that Puljujärvi could fall to you guys?

A lot would need to fall into place, but...

- As_I_See_It

While I do like this. The top 3 will remain the top 3. They are the only 3 NHL ready. All 3 will do well in the league for a long time.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:41 PM ET
While I do like this. The top 3 will remain the top 3. They are the only 3 NHL ready. All 3 will do well in the league for a long time.
- thundachunk


I wouldn't be 100 % sure Pulj is going number 3
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:43 PM ET
I wouldn't be 100 % sure Pulj is going number 3
- VANTEL

Really? I would be very surprised.
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