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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
Really? I would be very surprised.
- thundachunk


I heard a while ago CBJ want a centre
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 12 @ 2:46 PM ET
yeah, i've thought about that too.

now it seems that the fanbase is fixated on dubois. there's going to be an outcry from a lot of fans if puljujarvi is taken instead of dubois.

but that would be an amazing gift to the canucks. (but sadly it's a long shot at best)

- RealityChecker


I think the reason for everyone being higher on Dubois is because in reality it's hard to see any of the top 3 fall lower. Between Tkachuk and Dubois, I feel Dubois fits the needs of the team going forward better if he can develop as a center. LW works as well but having versatility makes it more appealing going forward. If we somehow ended up with Pulijarvii, I don't think many would be that upset.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:51 PM ET
I think the reason for everyone being higher on Dubois is because in reality it's hard to see any of the top 3 fall lower. Between Tkachuk and Dubois, I feel Dubois fits the needs of the team going forward better if he can develop as a center. LW works as well but having versatility makes it more appealing going forward. If we somehow ended up with Pulijarvii, I don't think many would be that upset.
- WhatTheNuck

sure, i can agree with that.

i'm just of the opinion that the fanbase is higher on dubois right now b/c it's been over a month since we've thought we had no chance at pulijarvi.

if the canucks had gotten 3rd pick at the lottery, i don't think that the dubois (or brown) talk would be as much. sure, there are going to be a lot of fans that will covet the big, strong centre but i think it's also a product of not thinking we had a chance at 1 of the top 3.

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 12 @ 2:58 PM ET
i don't know. i haven't watched any of these prospects.

in a general sense though, i'm always skeptical when players drop without games going on. i get how some players move up due to strong playoffs and int'l competition in may of the draft year (egs tckachuk and laine) but how does a consensus tier 1 player (who some had at 2) drop without games going on?

it's just the nature of the media to try "new angles" and "fresh analysis" to seem different.

imo, take the player who was a consensus top 3 all season.

- RealityChecker

I don't think it was him dropping. I think Tkachuk rose due to his performance.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:12 PM ET
I wouldn't be 100 % sure Pulj is going number 3
- VANTEL


If CLB isn't going to pick him, they should trade down. Somebody would offer a boatload for that pick!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:24 PM ET
If CLB isn't going to pick him, they should trade down. Somebody would offer a boatload for that pick!
- PetrolSexual

They have had two offers that they feel wasn't enough.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 12 @ 3:30 PM ET
I don't think it was him dropping. I think Tkachuk rose due to his performance.
- Retinalz


I have been trying to take a deep breath when I hear rankings and players climbing or falling. It is not like any of these media pundits have been privy to the projected drafting orders of teams.

As CS pointed out from Elliotte's blog, At this time of year, I refer to the Isiah Thomas rule. As a young reporter, he said to me, “Around the draft, everyone lies.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFII-edH-Yo
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:37 PM ET
That scenario you heard of the 5OA for Gallagher+9 overall+ 2nd would be solid, unlikely but i wish
- phyllee



Take that deal and run absolutely. Then flip the 9th, and irtanen for the 3rd overall and col 2nd draft Pulijarvi i
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
Take that deal and run absolutely. Then flip the 9th, and irtanen for the 3rd overall and col 2nd draft Pulijarvi i
- The_Kuze


Virtanen should be (and probably is) untouchable (short of a mega-offer/overpayment by another club).

As far as the Gallagher plus plus scenario, Montreal would be crazy to do that. Gallagher is a slightly better version of Burrows in his prime, he is an ultra-pest, has good offensive skills, and shows up to play every night. Given his diminutive size, it's also amazing that he's been so durable. Most importantly, he is a PROVEN asset who is quite consistent in his game. I would love to have Gallagher on the Canucks but there is no way that happens based on the proposed deal on here.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:46 PM ET
I think Puljujarvi has a decent shot of becoming the best player in the draft.
- golfingsince


Especially as a best all around two way player.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:47 PM ET
i don't know. i haven't watched any of these prospects.

in a general sense though, i'm always skeptical when players drop without games going on. i get how some players move up due to strong playoffs and int'l competition in may of the draft year (egs tckachuk and laine) but how does a consensus tier 1 player (who some had at 2) drop without games going on?

it's just the nature of the media to try "new angles" and "fresh analysis" to seem different.

imo, take the player who was a consensus top 3 all season.

- RealityChecker


Yeah there is 0 chance Pulju drops to 5 imo
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:48 PM ET
That scenario you heard of the 5OA for Gallagher+9 overall+ 2nd would be solid, unlikely but i wish
- phyllee


Talk about delusional wishful thinking.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:49 PM ET
I wouldn't be 100 % sure Pulj is going number 3
- VANTEL


Definitely won't slide past 4
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
Virtanen should be (and probably is) untouchable (short of a mega-offer/overpayment by another club).

As far as the Gallagher plus plus scenario, Montreal would be crazy to do that. Gallagher is a slightly better version of Burrows in his prime, he is an ultra-pest, has good offensive skills, and shows up to play every night. Given his diminutive size, it's also amazing that he's been so durable. Most importantly, he is a PROVEN asset who is quite consistent in his game. I would love to have Gallagher on the Canucks but there is no way that happens based on the proposed deal on here.

- Zogg


Bang on with the second part of the post. Not so sure I see why Virtanen is untouchable tho.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:56 PM ET
Definitely won't slide past 4
- RonPielep


Aww come on, we all know that the Oil will take the best D that they think is available, said D will bust out onto the scene like a trans-am on knight rider.... crashing and burning like a real car however. This is the way things work in oil country, haven't you heard?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 12 @ 3:57 PM ET

Remember when everyone was upset that we didn't take Kyle Beech?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2008e.html
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 12 @ 4:01 PM ET
Aww come on, we all know that the Oil will take the best D that they think is available, said D will bust out onto the scene like a trans-am on knight rider.... crashing and burning like a real car however. This is the way things work in oil country, haven't you heard?
- Pres.cup


He doesn't care. He only picks the good parts about teams. That's why he cant stick with just one. Just think of him as a bandwagoner with no real direction as to where his allegiance lies.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 12 @ 4:05 PM ET
Definitely won't slide past 4
- RonPielep


So if Montreal trades for the pick and one of the teams get fleeced how will you cope? Quite the conundrum for your situation huh? Maybe your true colors might finally show?
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 12 @ 4:12 PM ET
So if Montreal trades for the pick and one of the teams get fleeced how will you cope? Quite the conundrum for your situation huh? Maybe your true colors might finally show?
- WhatTheNuck

Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jun 12 @ 4:25 PM ET
Remember when everyone was upset that we didn't take Kyle Beech?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2008e.html

- hillbillydeluxe


Bravo.
Wiser's slow-clap.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 12 @ 4:25 PM ET
So if Montreal trades for the pick and one of the teams get fleeced how will you cope? Quite the conundrum for your situation huh? Maybe your true colors might finally show?
- WhatTheNuck


He's a repressed Oilers fan, waiting for the day that the 15year rebuild is over, then he will throw up an avatar and team like it ain't no thang.

phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 12 @ 4:26 PM ET
He's a repressed Oilers fan, waiting for the day that the 15year rebuild is over, then he will throw up an avatar and team like it ain't no thang.


- Pres.cup


You are 100% right, hes a nucker lite
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 12 @ 4:26 PM ET
Bravo.
Wiser's slow-clap.

- Max.Betts


Just waiting for everyone to freak if JB doesn't draft the consensus.

I was looking forward to the draft, now I just want to see what happens in free agency.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 12 @ 4:28 PM ET
Just waiting for everyone to freak if JB doesn't draft the consensus.

I was looking forward to the draft, now I just want to see what happens in free agency.

- hillbillydeluxe


Reading alot of Eriksson comming, i wont mind that, hoping its 3 years top contract tho, and cant see that happening but i mean Benning got Vrbata for 2 years so who knows
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 12 @ 4:31 PM ET
Reading alot of Eriksson comming, i wont mind that, hoping its 3 years top contract tho, and cant see that happening but i mean Benning got Vrbata for 2 years so who knows
- phyllee


If playing with the Sedins is a big selling point, maybe 3 years is a good number as the Sedins may re-up for another season or two when their present contract expires.

We need some scoring added to the lineup and Eriksson fits the bill as well as any ufa out there.
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