If playing with the Sedins is a big selling point, maybe 3 years is a good number as the Sedins may re-up for another season or two when their present contract expires.

We need some scoring added to the lineup and Eriksson fits the bill as well as any ufa out there.
- hillbillydeluxe

Im hoping Benning can trade Hansen and try to rid of Burrows somehow and pickup Eriksson and one of Lucic/Brouwer for size.

If CBJ truly wants a Centre to replace Johanson they need to trade down out of that spot. We have their 2018 2nd and I would be fine trading it with #5 for Pul at #3 (who I thought before this season was the best of the class). Or maybe we can pawn off Sbisa + 5 for 3OA...

I still can't believe you guys haven't figured out that JB loves draft picks because other GMs over value them. There's only so many roster spots on a team and the name of the game is maximizing each and every one of them. If you are 95% sure that someone is avail at #5 who can succeed Hank, then you have to take him, but PLD, Jeff Brown (and a lesser extent Tkachuk at LW) only came to notoriety this past season and they're riding a wave. Puljajarvi has been at the top of this draft class since he was 15 years old. He's got the size, speed and strength to be a top line C/RW for the next 10 years. If CBJ is trading that pick, and JB isn't sold on a successor for Hank, then make a deal. Please. Having too many big, powerful RW is a good problem to have unless one of them is Dustin Brown.

So if Montreal trades for the pick and one of the teams get fleeced how will you cope? Quite the conundrum for your situation huh? Maybe your true colors might finally show?
- WhatTheNuck

Zero sum game.

I'd hope for a win-win but regardless I would try to judge the trade objectively.

If CBJ truly wants a Centre to replace Johanson they need to trade down out of that spot. We have their 2018 2nd and I would be fine trading it with #5 for Pul at #3 (who I thought before this season was the best of the class). Or maybe we can pawn off Sbisa + 5 for 3OA...

I still can't believe you guys haven't figured out that JB loves draft picks because other GMs over value them. There's only so many roster spots on a team and the name of the game is maximizing each and every one of them. If you are 95% sure that someone is avail at #5 who can succeed Hank, then you have to take him, but PLD, Jeff Brown (and a lesser extent Tkachuk at LW) only came to notoriety this past season and they're riding a wave. Puljajarvi has been at the top of this draft class since he was 15 years old. He's got the size, speed and strength to be a top line C/RW for the next 10 years. If CBJ is trading that pick, and JB isn't sold on a successor for Hank, then make a deal. Please. Having too many big, powerful RW is a good problem to have unless one of them is Dustin Brown.
- Max.Betts

So Juulsen and a 2nd is laughable to move from 9 to 5 but a 2018 2nd or Sbisa is enough to move from 5 to 3. Okay, makes sense, thanks for playing.

i think that the point is that if benning identifies "down draft" players who are on his top 5, he should trade down and pick up another asset.

to take it to an extreme, if he thinks a player ranked 50th is the best player in the draft, it's probably not a good idea to take him at 5, even if he's eventually proven right.
- RealityChecker

You are assuming he won't go 6th to calgary. I think he will

So Juulsen and a 2nd is laughable to move from 9 to 5 but a 2018 2nd or Sbisa is enough to move from 5 to 3. Okay, makes sense, thanks for playing.

- RonPielep

Yeah i was thinking that too, would take alot more to move into top 3

You are assuming he won't go 6th to calgary. I think he will
- CanuckDon

Calgary has alot of young center depth with Monahan and Bennet, i wouldnt be suprised to see them take a Dman, or even Nylander

Zero sum game.

I'd hope for a win-win but regardless I would try to judge the trade objectively.
- RonPielep

Best Case for us.

We trade 5 + for 3
We take JP at 3rd

Edmonton drops back to 9ov to grab one of the top 3 D
4ov for 9ov and Gallagher

Montreal takes Dubouis at 4
Columbus drops back to 7
5ov for 7ov ++

Arizona take Tachuck at 5

Ottawa moves up to grab the top D and trades 12ov and 2 seconds for 6ov
Ottawa takes Juolevi at 6

Columbus takes Sergechev at 7

Buffalo takes Chychrun at 8

Edmonton goes wtf...... takes Keller at 9

The NHL collectively LOL's







It'll never happen, but I'd love to see the Oil move back for a top ranked D and get stuck with an undersized forward.

Again, he's done a tolerable job. Not 'very good', IMO.

Too many critics with too much ammunition to ignore that he's made mistakes in judgement. But I've accepted the fact that he's here to rebuild the prospect pool and turn over the team to a younger core.

My concern is that the team is moving away from that original plan and trying to be too competitive too quickly. A more veteran GM might be able to keep the team going in the right direction regardless of the external pressures felt.
- bloatedmosquito

Bingo.
Starting mid last yr I started becoming suspect when Benning straight up said he has no interest in moving players like Hamhuis to accumulate draft picks. That combined with his constant trading of our 2nd and 3rd round picks.
He's notrebuildongrebuilding aSoon as he gets a young asset he is eager to parlay it into a older piece in a race to get back to the playoffs. Listen his drafting thus far has looked good, whether these players reach their potential is the next step, but I'll give him the benefit of doubt. But we are kinda resembling the Toronto rebuild of the last decade.

Best Case for us.

We trade 5 + for 3
We take JP at 3rd

Edmonton drops back to 9ov to grab one of the top 3 D
4ov for 9ov and Gallagher

Montreal takes Dubouis at 4
Columbus drops back to 7
5ov for 7ov ++

Arizona take Tachuck at 5

Ottawa moves up to grab the top D and trades 12ov and 2 seconds for 6ov
Ottawa takes Juolevi at 6

Columbus takes Sergechev at 7

Buffalo takes Chychrun at 8

Edmonton goes wtf...... takes Keller at 9

The NHL collectively LOL's

I'd rather Tkachuk then Finn. Tkachuk is gonna score a ton of big playoff goals. The guy is as good as it gets around the net and down low in the offensive end





It'll never happen, but I'd love to see the Oil move back for a top ranked D and get stuck with an undersized forward.
- Pres.cup

So Juulsen and a 2nd is laughable to move from 9 to 5 but a 2018 2nd or Sbisa is enough to move from 5 to 3. Okay, makes sense, thanks for playing.

- RonPielep

agreed. Everyone puts sbisa in deals cause they don't like them.

thats ballard raymond 2nd talk.

If CBJ doesn't get a real good C in a deal for #3, u take the best player. All this chatter and it will likely go as planned. Tkachuk/Dubois. Slight chance on a trade down and draft Brown. I don't care if Nucks need C D or W. Take best available.

I wonder:

To CBJ:

Nugget_Foreskin

To EDM:
Uncool contract (Hartnell)
#3

EDM can surely afford to move RNH. They have McJesus and Draisiatl already. Plus, they should be able to keep the 4th. Is RNH worthy of the #3? Maybe.

EDM can then trade #4 to a team for a good NHL dman. Perhaps Hamonic. Snow wants a D in return but thats not easy to do. They say he has withdrawn his request to be traded. But talk is he still wants out. Ok, what am I doing, this isn't an Oiler thread.....

Remember when everyone was upset that we didn't take Kyle Beech?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2008e.html
- hillbillydeluxe

yeah and then remember how we and 14 other teams passed on E Karlsson? yeah that wasn't awesome - hindsight right?

Josi went 38th for F-sakes

agreed. Everyone puts sbisa in deals cause they don't like them.

thats ballard raymond 2nd talk.

If CBJ doesn't get a real good C in a deal for #3, u take the best player. All this chatter and it will likely go as planned. Tkachuk/Dubois. Slight chance on a trade down and draft Brown. I don't care if Nucks need C D or W. Take best available.

I wonder:

To CBJ:

Nugget_Foreskin

To EDM:
Uncool contract (Hartnell)
#3

EDM can surely afford to move RNH. They have McJesus and Draisiatl already. Plus, they should be able to keep the 4th. Is RNH worthy of the #3? Maybe.

EDM can then trade #4 to a team for a good NHL dman. Perhaps Hamonic. Snow wants a D in return but thats not easy to do. They say he has withdrawn his request to be traded. But talk is he still wants out. Ok, what am I doing, this isn't an Oiler thread.....
- storm88

Honestly i dont mind Sbisa, 3.8 isnt as bad of contract as people make it out to be, inflation is happening in the NHL, and yes he sucked with Bieksa, but this year before injuries he wasnt as bad as he gets made out to be, if hes traded thats alright, but if he is playing third Dman pairing with tryamkin i wouldnt mind that either

Honestly i dont mind Sbisa, 3.8 isnt as bad of contract as people make it out to be, inflation is happening in the NHL, and yes he sucked with Bieksa, but this year before injuries he wasnt as bad as he gets made out to be, if hes traded thats alright, but if he is playing third Dman pairing with tryamkin i wouldnt mind that either
- phyllee

I agree with this, sbisa isn't that bad and Guddy is not a bottom pairing. The sky isn't falling.

Any time we as canuck fans feel the walls and roof trembling just remember, at least we are not the leafs or oilers.

agreed. Everyone puts sbisa in deals cause they don't like them.

thats ballard raymond 2nd talk.

If CBJ doesn't get a real good C in a deal for #3, u take the best player. All this chatter and it will likely go as planned. Tkachuk/Dubois. Slight chance on a trade down and draft Brown. I don't care if Nucks need C D or W. Take best available.

I wonder:

To CBJ:

Nugget_Foreskin

To EDM:
Uncool contract (Hartnell)
#3

EDM can surely afford to move RNH. They have McJesus and Draisiatl already. Plus, they should be able to keep the 4th. Is RNH worthy of the #3? Maybe.

EDM can then trade #4 to a team for a good NHL dman. Perhaps Hamonic. Snow wants a D in return but thats not easy to do. They say he has withdrawn his request to be traded. But talk is he still wants out. Ok, what am I doing, this isn't an Oiler thread.....
- storm88

You guys are seriously undervaluing these top 3 picks. I don't think Vancouver has a player in their organization that Can wouldn't have a good laugh at if offered for that 3rd pick.
Nuge is just as bad. Try Hall for the 3rd pick. Or 4th and edm 2nd +.

Bingo.
Starting mid last yr I started becoming suspect when Benning straight up said he has no interest in moving players like Hamhuis to accumulate draft picks. That combined with his constant trading of our 2nd and 3rd round picks.
He's notrebuildongrebuilding aSoon as he gets a young asset he is eager to parlay it into a older piece in a race to get back to the playoffs. Listen his drafting thus far has looked good, whether these players reach their potential is the next step, but I'll give him the benefit of doubt. But we are kinda resembling the Toronto rebuild of the last decade.
- Bieksa#3

You know not all teams have to take the Pitts, LA, Chicago route of rebuilding in order to be successful moving forward.

Look at Detroit during their period of consistency, they never drafted higher than 27th in 8 years leading up to their cup win and proved that drafting smart/being lucky can be a successful way of retooling/rebuilding. Boston, Carolina and New Jersey same thing -retooling on the fly and winning a cup.

I think you guys are all getting caught up in the complete rebuild from top to bottom and not realizing that its not the be all end all way of getting back to being successful.

yeah and then remember how we and 14 other teams passed on E Karlsson? yeah that wasn't awesome - hindsight right?

Josi went 38th for F-sakes
- Brooks_Light

Not saying hindsight, just what we take as the consensus can be different from how many hockey clubs have the draft orders laid out.

we talk about players falling, but if many clubs weren't high on that player, then the player didn't really fall, it is just the consensus didn't match with how nhl clubs had the players ranked.

When JB drafted Boeser and I think JB said he was surprised Boeser was still available when he had that pick.

I'm curious to see who JB takes, but I am not going to freak out if he deviates from the consensus. If NHL clubs look at the consensus and have a different order, they aren't going to call Bob McKenzie and say, "you don't have this guy high enough in your rankings"... They will likely let it slide and pick the guy a little early from the consensus but right where the NHL club has that guy pegged.

Maybe the top 3 is the top 3 but there are often surprises. Wasn't Seth Jones predicted to go #1 and drop to #4? sh!t happens

I agree with this, sbisa isn't that bad and Guddy is not a bottom pairing. The sky isn't falling.

Any time we as canuck fans feel the walls and roof trembling just remember, at least we are not the leafs or oilers.
- Pres.cup

Of coarse Gudbrannson is a bottom pairing. He was what?, 3rd in ice time amung Florida D men. Yet he comes to Vancouver and is bottom pairing
He's not flashy, I think we gave up to much but he's a top 4 on the majority of the teams in the league.

You guys are seriously undervaluing these top 3 picks. I don't think Vancouver has a player in their organization that Can wouldn't have a good laugh at if offered for that 3rd pick.
Nuge is just as bad. Try Hall for the 3rd pick. Or 4th and edm 2nd +.
- Bieksa#3

What, you don't like my 5ov and Sbisa and hanson for 3ov?

Not saying hindsight, just what we take as the consensus can be different from how many hockey clubs have the draft orders laid out.

we talk about players falling, but if many clubs weren't high on that player, then the player didn't really fall, it is just the consensus didn't match with how nhl clubs had the players ranked.

When JB drafted Boeser and I think JB said he was surprised Boeser was still available when he had that second pick in the first round.

I'm curious to see who JB takes, but I am not going to freak out if he deviates from the consensus. If NHL clubs look at the consensus and have a different order, they aren't going to call Bob McKenzie and say, "you don't have this guy high enough in your rankings"... They will likely let it slide and pick the guy a little early from the consensus but right where the NHL club has that guy pegged.

Maybe the top 3 is the top 3 but there are often surprises. Wasn't Seth Jones predicted to go #1 and drop to #4? sh!t happens
- hillbillydeluxe

Nope, sorry but you're wrong. So, so very wrong.....

It was the two previous years that we had 2 x 1st round picks, not Boesers draft year.

What, you don't like my 5ov and Sbisa and hanson for 3ov?
- Pres.cup

I think Hansen has enough value to make that work. If Hansen is worth say a 2nd and 3rd. And Sbisa a 3rd. You're dealing a 2nd and 33rds to move from 5 to 3. I think the jackets do that. Just hope benning doesn't. Tkachuk is better

Nope, sorry but you're wrong. So, so very wrong.....

It was the two previous years that we had 2 x 1st round picks, not Boesers draft year.
- Pres.cup

thanks for the correction, but I believe JB was still surprised Boeser was available.

I got the impression JB had expected Boeser to get picked earlier in the round.

Nope, sorry but you're wrong. So, so very wrong.....

It was the two previous years that we had 2 x 1st round picks, not Boesers draft year.
- Pres.cup

Yep
2013.
9th Horvat
24th Shink
2014
6th
Virtanen
24 mcCann
2015
23 Boeser

I think Hansen has enough value to make that work. If Hansen is worth say a 2nd and 3rd. And Sbisa a 3rd. You're dealing a 2nd and 33rds to move from 5 to 3. I think the jackets do that. Just hope benning doesn't. Tkachuk is better
- Bieksa#3

Then JP? not a chance... well maybe a chance but I wouldn't bank on it. I still like JP more then Laine, he was better all year until his injury derailed his season. I have Tkachuck at 5 but that's because I value centers more then wingers.

Then JP? not a chance... well maybe a chance but I wouldn't bank on it. I still like JP more then Laine, he was better all year until his injury derailed his season. I have Tkachuck at 5 but that's because I value centers more then wingers.
- Pres.cup

Tkachuk is the kinda guy you want in the playoffs.