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phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:15 PM ET
Hansons speed is an asset I dont care to lose. Who do you replace that immense speed?
We'd be better off keeping Hanson, unless its for something like a 1st round pic in top 15....not debating if thats fair just saying unless its towards something like that you keep his speed.

- SMBDragon


If we could get even a late first early second for hansen its worth it, he would just be taking up a spot for expansion, would much rather trade him for future assets and sign a UFA, Hansen shouldnt be in the top 6 at all if we want a successful season, and id by far rather virtanen on the third line. Or even Rodin
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 13 @ 5:20 PM ET
If we could get even a late first early second for hansen its worth it, he would just be taking up a spot for expansion, would much rather trade him for future assets and sign a UFA, Hansen shouldnt be in the top 6 at all if we want a successful season, and id by far rather virtanen on the third line. Or even Rodin
- phyllee

So who replaces his speed then?
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:23 PM ET
So who replaces his speed then?
- SMBDragon


Virtanen can cruise, Sutter is a fast skated, never seen Rodin play so im not sure how fast he is. And this was the first season hansens speed actually was useful, normally hes on a breakaway and screws up
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 13 @ 5:24 PM ET
If we could get even a late first early second for hansen its worth it, he would just be taking up a spot for expansion, would much rather trade him for future assets and sign a UFA, Hansen shouldnt be in the top 6 at all if we want a successful season, and id by far rather virtanen on the third line. Or even Rodin
- phyllee


I agree with this. They want to be a competitive team, but they wont be contenders so positioning for life after expansion should be the focus. That means no NMC's so that the Lucic's, Brouwer's and Laad's can all be left unprotected. The homegrown should be the priority when it comes to protection, not these aging UFA signings
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 13 @ 5:26 PM ET
So who replaces his speed then?
- SMBDragon

Gotta give to get. He is at his absolute peak value, with 22 goals last season and a cap friendly contract. He's a nice piece to have, but we have other needs right now.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:37 PM ET
I know. Just (frank)ing around.

But nice pick-ups by Pitts; Haglin, Bonino, and Kessel all in the same season. That cheap contract of bonino's gave Pittsburgh a lot of flexibility. Good player/roster management.

Edit: turning castoffs into a championship roster

- bloatedmosquito


I thought their gm was the biggest idiot in the league. Every move he made was a headscratcher, including hiring Sullivan. I couldn't understand why he wasn't bolstering the backend. Shows what I know. He should win gm of the year.
Ronning4ever
Joined: 09.11.2008

Jun 13 @ 5:39 PM ET
PP1 with Edler?

Discuss..


- LordHumungous


Edler's best years on the PP came with Salo (booming shot) and Erhoff (who was the best offensive D we had in the good years). He just hasn't been that good since...
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 13 @ 5:40 PM ET
I thought their gm was the biggest idiot in the league. Every move he made was a headscratcher, including hiring Sullivan. I couldn't understand why he wasn't bolstering the backend. Shows what I know. He should win gm of the year.
- CubanBuffet

With everyone going to analytics I'm expecting a lap top to be nominated for Gm of the year.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 13 @ 5:40 PM ET
I thought their gm was the biggest idiot in the league. Every move he made was a headscratcher, including hiring Sullivan. I couldn't understand why he wasn't bolstering the backend. Shows what I know. He should win gm of the year.
- CubanBuffet



He did make boneheaded moves. See Lovejoy for Depres.
Finally, halfway through the year he woke from his ass and played to the teams strength: speed
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 5:41 PM ET
So who replaces his speed then?
- SMBDragon

I agree we should keep Hansen. He is useful in almost all situations, he can play with the twins if Eriksson gets injured, and his contract runs for a few more years so we can trade him for picks at the deadline or next summer if necessary. No reason to sell him off just yet, despite his value being high.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:42 PM ET
With everyone going to analytics I'm expecting a lap top to be nominated for Gm of the year.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Benning just fired his laptop.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:43 PM ET
I agree we should keep Hansen. He is useful in almost all situations, he can play with the twins if Eriksson gets injured, and his contract runs for a few more years so we can trade him for picks at the deadline or next summer if necessary. No reason to sell him off just yet, despite his value being high.
- NorthNuck


Linden Vey puts up points with the sedins, so did kassian and Jensen, moral of the story Hansen doesnt belong in the top 6
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:43 PM ET
He did make boneheaded moves. See Lovejoy for Depres.
Finally, halfway through the year he woke from his ass and played to the teams strength: speed

- DeflatedPucks


Yeah, bad trade.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 5:44 PM ET
Letang would make most D coaches look pretty good on any team dude...


- LordHumungous

Watching the last couple games it felt like Letang for Pit and Polak for SJ were on the ice 50 minutes a game
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:45 PM ET
Linden Vey puts up points with the sedins, so did kassian and Jensen, moral of the story Hansen doesnt belong in the top 6
- phyllee


Ideally no, but his ability to play up and down the lineup is a strength, not a problem.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 5:45 PM ET
Linden Vey puts up points with the sedins, so did kassian and Jensen, moral of the story Hansen doesnt belong in the top 6
- phyllee

Vey is nowhere near the offensive consistency and Hansen is miles better defensively than any of those players, so i fail to see the comparison
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 5:45 PM ET
Ideally no, but his ability to play up and down the lineup is a strength, not a problem.
- CubanBuffet

WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 13 @ 5:49 PM ET
I agree we should keep Hansen. He is useful in almost all situations, he can play with the twins if Eriksson gets injured, and his contract runs for a few more years so we can trade him for picks at the deadline or next summer if necessary. No reason to sell him off just yet, despite his value being high.
- NorthNuck


I agree he is useful, but he is too valuable to not sell now. We saw how Vrbata's value fell off a cliff, I think you explore an option to acquire a young player, perhaps an RFA on a team with tight cap to replace him, but you move him this summer (I think even waiting until after the world cup is a risk). With Hansen in the lineup, the team is borderline playoffs, and without him they are a little less likely but neither option has them as contenders which is why he should be sold high
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 13 @ 5:49 PM ET
Ideally no, but his ability to play up and down the lineup is a strength, not a problem.
- CubanBuffet


on the pp, vey over hansen, even strength, hansen.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:49 PM ET
Vey is nowhere near the offensive consistency and Hansen is miles better defensively than any of those players, so i fail to see the comparison
- NorthNuck


If Vey played as much games with the Sedins as hansen did id predict he was better offensive numbers then Hansen, the defensive side of things not as good forsure.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:53 PM ET
on the pp, vey over hansen, even strength, hansen.
- hillbillydeluxe


Tough call. Vey can distribute the puck better, Hansen can retrieve it. Either way, it's probably safe to say that if either one gets significant PP time next year it's probably not going to be a very good PP.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 5:53 PM ET
If Vey played as much games with the Sedins as hansen did id predict he was better offensive numbers then Hansen, the defensive side of things not as good forsure.
- phyllee

Vey is barely an NHL player IMO, Hansen could play anywhere on the lineup, 1st to 4th line, PK, OT, anything except PP apparently.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:55 PM ET
Vey is barely an NHL player IMO, Hansen could play anywhere on the lineup, 1st to 4th line, PK, OT, anything except PP apparently.
- NorthNuck


He is good on the penalty kill, but i mean anyone can play anywhere in a lineup, its whether or not they belong there, Hansen doesnt belong in the top 6. He was with the sedins to pump his stats up this season trade him while values high.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 13 @ 5:55 PM ET
I thought their gm was the biggest idiot in the league. Every move he made was a headscratcher, including hiring Sullivan. I couldn't understand why he wasn't bolstering the backend. Shows what I know. He should win gm of the year.
- CubanBuffet


I agree, thought he would be fired by the summer time. He made some truly bizarre trades and the team was a disaster half way through the season. I'm still shocked the Penguins won and won easy. I thought WAS would steamroll them. It goes to show, that anybody can win if you make the playoffs. I find it hilarious that some posters would prefer a high draft pick to a wild card spot in the playoffs
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 5:56 PM ET
I agree he is useful, but he is too valuable to not sell now. We saw how Vrbata's value fell off a cliff, I think you explore an option to acquire a young player, perhaps an RFA on a team with tight cap to replace him, but you move him this summer (I think even waiting until after the world cup is a risk). With Hansen in the lineup, the team is borderline playoffs, and without him they are a little less likely but neither option has them as contenders which is why he should be sold high
- WhiteLie

Look at Hansens point totals throughout his career, he is very consistant, and he's not old. I don't expect to see an immediate drop off, whereas with Vrbata we all knew he was streaky, one year up one year down.
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