The bottom line is this. Not trading a player like Hansen is why the team is in the position it is. Look at Chicago. They constantly move pieces when the value is high, bring in youth and compete. Vancouver management has been holding on to assets and then wait until they are untradable to unload. Hansens value will likely never be higher. If we keep him then we are saying we want to rebuild in 2 years when the Sedins likely retire, rather than get assets now that can grow and keep us competitive. Sure we need to high end talent to make it work. But we have 5OA, and some very talented youth.

Bottom line:

Trade Hansen while he has value, or continue to be a useless team for 10 years. I say this because, lets face it, if we won't do it with Hansen, we won't do it with anyone in the future.
- Retinalz

This is when to trade. He plays next season and doesn't play as well then his value is shot
- Retinalz

I wouldnt say shot, but the thoughts creep in that the Sedin's made him a 20-goal scorer (though I will say he scored quite a few of his goals through his own work and finish) and will diminish his value.

Canucks should look at what Dale Weise was acquired for and take that as the benchmark. Though not as good as Hansen, Weise was playing up and down the Canadien's lineup, scored a bunch, has speed. Packaged with Fleishmann got a former 1st rounder and a 2nd round pick. If Van can get something close to that...

I dunno how much depth. We still have nobody to slot in if one of them gets injured. Hansen solves that.
EDIT:But if we are out of the playoff picture by TDL which is expected then it would be fine to move him
- NorthNuck

This is exactly my take also.

Not maxing his value is stupid.
Offseason is not the best time unless apackage in a draft deal at best.
Only a 2nd rounder is not better than a Hansen. Waiting fetches more.
- Nighthawk

What makes you so sure he can achieve a higher value? I like Hansen but he may be at an all time high which is why trading now is better in terms of value. Cannot predict next season..

This is when to trade. He plays next season and doesn't play as well then his value is shot
- Retinalz

In most cases i agree but Hansen has value no matter & it will remain.

This is exactly my take also.
- Nighthawk

I respect the depth prospective but with Hansen its a bit more complicated. Former 7th round pick, 28 years old, hard worker, scored 22 goals last season. If we bring in a UFA to play with the Sedins there is literally no chance he surpasses or even matches those totals. It was pretty clear WD didnt want him on the PP too. Keeping him until the TDL is dumb and if he isnt moved this off season than JB could lose him to the expansion for nothing if they choose not to protect him. Its a pretty complicated scenario with an almost definite expansion next year prior to the draft. Better to trade guys you dont want to protect. If they keep him this off season chances are he plays out his contract here.

I'm not sure waiting fetches more in Hansen's case. Sure prices are inflated around the TDL, but if Hansen shoots/produces at his usual rate, the price for a 15 goal guy that can move up and down the lineup isnt going to be a little less than now. Also the past few TDL's have been busts, most "insiders" have said that the draft has replaced it as the time to make moves. I think we wouldnt see much of a difference in return but that it would probably be safer to make the move now and gives more time for whatever asset Van acquires to develop or be used to help the team IMO
- WhiteLie

Hansen is a well known quantity & no signs otherwise.
He could fetch an awesome package at the TDL.
I say risk it & decide then with expansion looming.

So, As The Penguins blow the doors off the Sharks with Speed and Skill, Benning seems to be loading up on Size and Toughness

#BehindtheTimesBenning

#DimJim
- TheGame316

It's a moving target... Just another reason why it's so hard to win.

What makes you so sure he can achieve a higher value? I like Hansen but he may be at an all time high which is why trading now is better in terms of value. Cannot predict next season..
- WhatTheNuck

Maybe so but cannot predict he will fall or even produce more either.
There is no rush to trade him unless a no brainer offered. IMO
I think patience is better at this juncture.

I respect the depth prospective but with Hansen its a bit more complicated. Former 7th round pick, 28 years old, hard worker, scored 22 goals last season. If we bring in a UFA to play with the Sedins there is literally no chance he surpasses or even matches those totals. It was pretty clear WD didnt want him on the PP too. Keeping him until the TDL is dumb and if he isnt moved this off season than JB could lose him to the expansion for nothing if they choose not to protect him. Its a pretty complicated scenario with an almost definite expansion next year prior to the draft. Better to trade guys you dont want to protect. If they keep him this off season chances are he plays out his contract here.
- WhatTheNuck

This is it right there. He isnt going to get the same opportunities he had last year

I went golfing today for the first time in almost 2 years. shot an 81. Best game i've ever played.

Maybe so but cannot predict he will fall or even produce more either.
There is no rush to trade him unless a no brainer offered. IMO
I think patience is better at this juncture.
- Nighthawk

Just looking at his career shooting percentage and the company he was in last year, we can all predict he will not produce 20 goals next year. At best, he can replicate high-teens and a few more assists to stay in the 30-40 point range, but it wont bring a higher return

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ilter=shots,gte,100&pos=S

He is not in the company of Stamkos, Pavelski, Malkin or Benn. Its not sustainable

Just looking at his career shooting percentage and the company he was in last year, we can all predict he will not produce 20 goals next year. At best, he can replicate high-teens and a few more assists to stay in the 30-40 point range, but it wont bring a higher return

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ilter=shots,gte,100&pos=S

He is not in the company of Stamkos, Pavelski, Malkin or Benn. Its not sustainable
- WhiteLie

Hansen 22 goals only 1 on the PP
That is quite good for 2.5m no matter the predictions for 2016
Thats a 4/5m value on any contender.
He will keep on doing pretty much the same IMO

He will be a HUGE TDL chip

I have no problem trading him I'm just saying it might be worth keeping him around for 1 more season. I realize he's not going to be a part of us competing for the cup but do we really need another hole in the forward lineup?
- NorthNuck

You won't have one, as I said, you replace him with another middle six forward via free agency.

Just looking at his career shooting percentage and the company he was in last year, we can all predict he will not produce 20 goals next year. At best, he can replicate high-teens and a few more assists to stay in the 30-40 point range, but it wont bring a higher return

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ilter=shots,gte,100&pos=S

He is not in the company of Stamkos, Pavelski, Malkin or Benn. Its not sustainable
- WhiteLie

IS Jiri Hudler Van's next Radim Vrbata?

You won't have one, as I said, you replace him with another middle six forward via free agency.
- LeftCoaster

Another UFA mid 6F won't come cheaper nor a short term.
Also hurts expansion draft decision time.

Hansen 22 goals only 1 on the PP
That is quite good for 2.5m no matter the predictions for 2016
Thats a 4/5m value on any contender.
He will keep on doing pretty much the same IMO

He will be a HUGE TDL chip
- Nighthawk

I'd trade him at the draft for another first rounder or a B+ prospect and a later pick. Sign someone on a cheaper contract. Don't take the chance that he falls off.

I'd trade him at the draft for another first rounder or a B+ prospect and a later pick. Sign someone on a cheaper contract. Don't take the chance that he falls off.
- manvanfan

That is the other side of the coin yes.
Boils down on what comes our way.
Like i said no rush & field crazy offers. Patience

Ok my Hansen draft deal...







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Hansen/Gaunce for Canes 13OA/4th

Another UFA mid 6F won't come cheaper nor a short term.
Also hurts expansion draft decision time.
- Nighthawk

Don't care about cheaper, as Vantel mentions, grab McGinn at 3 to 4 million, more grit, harder to play against, scores more.

Hansen 22 goals only 1 on the PP
That is quite good for 2.5m no matter the predictions for 2016
Thats a 4/5m value on any contender.
He will keep on doing pretty much the same IMO

He will be a HUGE TDL chip
- Nighthawk

1 goal on the PP doesnt change the fact that 18% of his shots went in the net. Thats a higher percentage than legit snipers like Stamkos, Benn, Malkin, Kane, etc. Hansen usually scores on 11% of his shots, which means if he shoots another 120 shots, he will only score around 13-16 goals. That looks much less appealing for a high return.

Dale Weise, he of the 14 goals needed to be packaged with another 14 goal scorer to get a decent return. We should be happy if JB can get close to that

EDIT: And Weise's salary was a little over $1M

That is the other side of the coin yes.
Boils down on what comes our way.
Like i said no rush & field crazy offers. Patience
- Nighthawk

there might be a cap strapped team that offers something good this summer...

no rush for sure.

Don't care about cheaper, as Vantel mentions, grab McGinn at 4 million, more grit, harder to play against, scores more.
- LeftCoaster

Ok but i like Martin @3/3m

That is the other side of the coin yes.
Boils down on what comes our way.
Like i said no rush & field crazy offers. Patience
- Nighthawk

Yeah at some point Van needs to capitalize on players having good seasons instead of waiting till they suck and then trying to trade them. Trading Hansen, buying out burrows will basically allow to get brouwer, McGinn or someone else. Just get some assests out of it.

Don't care about cheaper, as Vantel mentions, grab McGinn at 3 to 4 million, more grit, harder to play against, scores more.
- LeftCoaster

I can't see McGinn getting to the 4 mark. Beleskey last year didn't do it. Very similar players and similar stats.