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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 14 @ 6:58 PM ET
Murray was named special advisor to Doug Whaley, and Stamkos is trying out for the bills.
- Mentalorgasm5


Stamkos a football fan like molasses ?? Lol send him free tickets to that failure
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 14 @ 6:59 PM ET
9.99999/10 these reports are generally false..
- bluengold12


True but it's going to be a wild next 10+ days or so nonetheless. Got my draft tickets for both days - bringing my 12 and 14 year old sons - coming in from ct. Figure it's a once in a lifetime type thing - when the next time the draft will be in Buffalo - 20-30 years??
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 7:00 PM ET
This what I'm hoping for the rights thing lol ..
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Don't really want to trade for his rights... If he is going to hit FA then it means he wants to see what else is out there. I don't want to risk giving up a pick for him if Murray isn't 100% sure he can get him and he'll likely have to overpay big time to get him to agree not to hit FA... like bigger then 10.5... I don't think he deserves more then 10.5

If Murray thinks he has a real chance at him he'll wait till FA. But my bet is Tampa is going to push this to the wire to keep him and won't be trading his rights.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 7:00 PM ET
Still fun and brings more conversation talk
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Just gets me mad when they end up being false and they sign with a rival.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 14 @ 7:01 PM ET
True but it's going to be a wild next 10+ days or so nonetheless. Got my draft tickets for both days - bringing my 12 and 14 year old sons - coming in from ct. Figure it's a once in a lifetime type thing - when the next time the draft will be in Buffalo - 20-30 years??
- turbo044


Enjoy every minute Of it I went last year in Florida I wanted to witness history
No regrets best time ever
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 14 @ 7:01 PM ET
Elmos, betches
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 7:03 PM ET
True but it's going to be a wild next 10+ days or so nonetheless. Got my draft tickets for both days - bringing my 12 and 14 year old sons - coming in from ct. Figure it's a once in a lifetime type thing - when the next time the draft will be in Buffalo - 20-30 years??
- turbo044



Yeah, probably. Last one was 98 I believe which is 18 years ago.

I'm expecting to see a high influx in false rumor accounts and guys with 32 followers claiming to know Stamkos cousin who claims he's signing with Buffalo...
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 14 @ 7:03 PM ET
Just gets me mad when they end up being false and they sign with a rival.
- bluengold12


Right lol .. it's better to be happy right now then pissed as (frank) on ufa day
Which me and you are probably going to get pissed off when all leaf fans come in here
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 14 @ 7:08 PM ET
Don't really want to trade for his rights... If he is going to hit FA then it means he wants to see what else is out there. I don't want to risk giving up a pick for him if Murray isn't 100% sure he can get him and he'll likely have to overpay big time to get him to agree not to hit FA... like bigger then 10.5... I don't think he deserves more then 10.5

If Murray thinks he has a real chance at him he'll wait till FA. But my bet is Tampa is going to push this to the wire to keep him and won't be trading his rights.

- bluengold12


I agree with everything you just said. I personally rather have Vesey, if given the choice between the two. Vesey seems more in line with what we're trying to build. Though i would take both too - lol.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 14 @ 7:10 PM ET
Enjoy every minute Of it I went last year in Florida I wanted to witness history
No regrets best time ever

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Yeah I had tix last year too - simple to get last year -but had a wedding that had to go to instead.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 14 @ 7:16 PM ET
Tampering all day everyday.
- ImThatGuy

Tampa-ring

...I'll see myself out
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 14 @ 7:16 PM ET
All I heard a few minutes ago when I was speaking with my uncle was, they have no problem keeping the pick and there is talk about a few options but I wasn't told of any as of yet. The brass has been talking a lot lately mostly about Stamkos and a couple other scoring wingers but also a lot about the draft.

Moving up will cost an awful lot, don't know if they are willing to go that high.

- SABRES 89


I'm glad about that. I don't think moving up is a good decision - they should stay put or move the pick for a player...
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 14 @ 7:22 PM ET
I agree with everything you just said. I personally rather have Vesey, if given the choice between the two. Vesey seems more in line with what we're trying to build. Though i would take both too - lol.
- turbo044



If you trade for his rights before the draft and you know you're going to sign him you are going into the busiest off season trade weekends with one need already checked off. It gives you flexibility knowing you crossed off one check list on your need and want list.

I think if Stamkos is a Sabre before the draft that pick #8 gets moved for a current NHL defensemen.

Then signing Vesey is icing on the cake but I don't know if that happens with out without Stamkos.

Sign Stamkos, trade Ennis and a pick for Fowler (not 8th overall), send 8 and Gus for Shattenkirk. Sign Vesey

Kane Stamkos ROR
Vesey Eichel Reinhart
Folingo Larsson Gionta
Moulson Schaller Delo
COR

Risto Fowler
Shattenkirk Bogo
Gorges Pysyk
Nelson Franson

Then try to send Pysyk or Franson for a solid depth 3rd liner
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:25 PM ET
If you trade for his rights before the draft and you know you're going to sign him you are going into the busiest off season trade weekends with one need already checked off. It gives you flexibility knowing you crossed off one check list on your need and want list.

I think if Stamkos is a Sabre before the draft that pick #8 gets moved for a current NHL defensemen.

Then signing Vesey is icing on the cake but I don't know if that happens with out without Stamkos.

Sign Stamkos, trade Ennis and a pick for Fowler (not 8th overall), send 8 and Gus for Shattenkirk. Sign Vesey

Kane Stamkos ROR
Vesey Eichel Reinhart
Folingo Larsson Gionta
Moulson Schaller Delo
COR

Risto Fowler
Shattenkirk Bogo
Gorges Pysyk
Nelson Franson

Then try to send Pysyk or Franson for a solid depth 3rd liner

- Stripes77

Is girgensons, pysyk and pick 39 enough for shattenkirk?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:27 PM ET
If you trade for his rights before the draft and you know you're going to sign him you are going into the busiest off season trade weekends with one need already checked off. It gives you flexibility knowing you crossed off one check list on your need and want list.

I think if Stamkos is a Sabre before the draft that pick #8 gets moved for a current NHL defensemen.

Then signing Vesey is icing on the cake but I don't know if that happens with out without Stamkos.

Sign Stamkos, trade Ennis and a pick for Fowler (not 8th overall), send 8 and Gus for Shattenkirk. Sign Vesey

Kane Stamkos ROR
Vesey Eichel Reinhart
Folingo Larsson Gionta
Moulson Schaller Delo
COR

Risto Fowler
Shattenkirk Bogo
Gorges Pysyk
Nelson Franson

Then try to send Pysyk or Franson for a solid depth 3rd liner

- Stripes77


sad but true
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:29 PM ET
Is girgensons, pysyk and pick 39 enough for shattenkirk?
- Mentalorgasm5



Ou et le Garcon du Pysyk?

bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 7:30 PM ET
http://www.teamworkonline.com/sports/#!/search-sports-jobs?location=&s=pegula&Category=&button.x=0&button.y=0&button=Submit

Not sure how legit this is but looks like the long awaited Pegula sports network may be in the making. My guess is for the 2017-2018 season or at least when their contract ends with MSG. Will be nice to have a Sabres network again.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 14 @ 7:31 PM ET
I'm glad about that. I don't think moving up is a good decision - they should stay put or move the pick for a player...
- Cup Crazy '07


My guess is it won't take as much to move up as edm really wants to move down but not down to much. My guess:

Sabres trade #8, Pysysk and some grade B prospect or a 3rd pick to Edm for #4. With #4 Buf does not take Tkachuk but takes Dubois.

But trades a #2 and girgs for Fowler

Buf loses out on Stamkos, but sgns Boedker andr Okposo on 7/1

On 8/15 Buf signs Vesey

Buf re-signed Johnson at goalie
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 14 @ 7:33 PM ET
Is girgensons, pysyk and pick 39 enough for shattenkirk?
- Mentalorgasm5


I would do it in a heartbeat so thus the answer must be no
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 14 @ 7:35 PM ET
If you trade for his rights before the draft and you know you're going to sign him you are going into the busiest off season trade weekends with one need already checked off. It gives you flexibility knowing you crossed off one check list on your need and want list.

I think if Stamkos is a Sabre before the draft that pick #8 gets moved for a current NHL defensemen.

Then signing Vesey is icing on the cake but I don't know if that happens with out without Stamkos.

Sign Stamkos, trade Ennis and a pick for Fowler (not 8th overall), send 8 and Gus for Shattenkirk. Sign Vesey

Kane Stamkos ROR
Vesey Eichel Reinhart
Folingo Larsson Gionta
Moulson Schaller Delo
COR

Risto Fowler
Shattenkirk Bogo
Gorges Pysyk
Nelson Franson

Then try to send Pysyk or Franson for a solid depth 3rd liner

- Stripes77


We think alike - this would be a wet dream!!
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:35 PM ET
I would do it in a heartbeat so thus the answer must be no
- turbo044

Might be easier if they don't bring Backus back also.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:53 PM ET
My guess is it won't take as much to move up as edm really wants to move down but not down to much. My guess:

Sabres trade #8, Pysysk and some grade B prospect or a 3rd pick to Edm for #4. With #4 Buf does not take Tkachuk but takes Dubois.

But trades a #2 and girgs for Fowler

Buf loses out on Stamkos, but sgns Boedker andr Okposo on 7/1

On 8/15 Buf signs Vesey

Buf re-signed Johnson at goalie

- turbo044

We'd go over the cap. I really hope we stay away from both those UFAs. Stamkos or Yandle, if anything stay off the UFA market.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:00 PM ET
We'd go over the cap. I really hope we stay away from both those UFAs. Stamkos or Yandle, if anything stay off the UFA market.
- Mentalorgasm5

Okposo has one more point ober the past three years than The coveted Taylor Hall. He cost you nothing but cash. If he signs for 4 years 5-5.5per I am good with it.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:02 PM ET
We'd go over the cap. I really hope we stay away from both those UFAs. Stamkos or Yandle, if anything stay off the UFA market.
- Mentalorgasm5


Nope not even close, approximately:

Under cap by 25m

Okposo +5.5m
Boedker +4m
Fowler +5m
Vesey +1m
Pysyk -1.5m
Girgs -1.5m
Johnson +2m

=17.5m net = 7.5m left for risto and foligno's bridge deal. We also may be able to get rid of some contacts - Franson, Moulsen (prob not) and Gorges/Gionta's go away soon
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 8:08 PM ET
Turned on ESPN's OJ special and of course they show Buffalo making it look like Antarctica and some ex teammate said it was the worst place you can go. Closest thing to a tundra.
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