- homiedclown

- homiedclown

frank celery.

- IndianaSabresFan

wtf?

weak tea

frank celery.

- Der Kaiser

wtf?

weak tea
- Der Kaiser

Reminded me of a girl I met.

- homiedclown

This right here is absolutely delightful.

Put a cheezburg on that plate and you just flat WIN!

- homiedclown

*** weeps for joy ***

exactly you don't need to draft a defenseman in the first-round when you can get a quality one in the second one or even a franchise one as history has shown


Clayton Keller let's go
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Do you ever research these things, or is this something you just came up with as a catch phrase one day and stuck with and through repetition it's become fact to you?

I'm not saying there aren't good d-men in the 2nd or later, but I've just gone back and looked at all drafts from 2006-2013 (anything more recent is too small a sample size) and the overwhelming number of better defensemen are in the 1st round - kind of obvious I'd hope...but the way you throw this phrase out there makes me think you are under the impression that top pairing d-men around the league are equally found after the 1st as in the 1st.

For every Subban/Faulk type that you find in the 2nd or later rounds, there are probably 4-5 d-men drafted in the first round that are such safer bets at being the type of d-man to play on a team for a long time and succeed.

Look through these same drafts and count the number of very good or better d-men drafted Round 2 and later and tell me who you come up with and I'll do the work to compare who is found in round 1 and we'll see if it's worth avoiding taking a shot at what should be the better talent.

Do you ever research these things, or is this something you just came up with as a catch phrase one day and stuck with and through repetition it's become fact to you?

I'm not saying there aren't good d-men in the 2nd or later, but I've just gone back and looked at all drafts from 2006-2013 (anything more recent is too small a sample size) and the overwhelming number of better defensemen are in the 1st round - kind of obvious I'd hope...but the way you throw this phrase out there makes me think you are under the impression that top pairing d-men around the league are equally found after the 1st as in the 1st.

For every Subban/Faulk type that you find in the 2nd or later rounds, there are probably 4-5 d-men drafted in the first round that are such safer bets at being the type of d-man to play on a team for a long time and succeed.

Look through these same drafts and count the number of very good or better d-men drafted Round 2 and later and tell me who you come up with and I'll do the work to compare who is found in round 1 and we'll see if it's worth avoiding taking a shot at what should be the better talent.
- stashu

You all thought I over-reacted, but now you're coming around to my way of thinking.

EDIT:

His next post will identify three players in the 690 player NHL that are late round successful Dmen, and he will claim those three guys prove he is right.

Do you ever research these things, or is this something you just came up with as a catch phrase one day and stuck with and through repetition it's become fact to you?

I'm not saying there aren't good d-men in the 2nd or later, but I've just gone back and looked at all drafts from 2006-2013 (anything more recent is too small a sample size) and the overwhelming number of better defensemen are in the 1st round - kind of obvious I'd hope...but the way you throw this phrase out there makes me think you are under the impression that top pairing d-men around the league are equally found after the 1st as in the 1st.

For every Subban/Faulk type that you find in the 2nd or later rounds, there are probably 4-5 d-men drafted in the first round that are such safer bets at being the type of d-man to play on a team for a long time and succeed.

Look through these same drafts and count the number of very good or better d-men drafted Round 2 and later and tell me who you come up with and I'll do the work to compare who is found in round 1 and we'll see if it's worth avoiding taking a shot at what should be the better talent.
- stashu

Usually the best players are found in the top 10 picks.......

You all thought I over-reacted, but now you're coming around to my way of thinking.
- Der Kaiser

Just keep seeing him say this spiel over and over the past few days and I believed it, figuring there were still lots of gems being found...but there really aren't once things are, ya know, actually looked at rather than blindly said.

Just keep seeing him say this spiel over and over the past few days and I believed it, figuring there were still lots of gems being found...but there really aren't once things are, ya know, actually looked at rather than blindly said.
- stashu

jump on the Connor Keller Bandwagon he's not too small Johnny Hockey Jonny Drouin Danny Briere LETS GO!

if they moved franson and gorges, I would be ok getting Jared Cowen for the bottom pair
- homiedclown

Here's a guy both Toronto and Ottawa wanted nothing to do with. Mega, ultra pass.

Do you ever research these things, or is this something you just came up with as a catch phrase one day and stuck with and through repetition it's become fact to you?

I'm not saying there aren't good d-men in the 2nd or later, but I've just gone back and looked at all drafts from 2006-2013 (anything more recent is too small a sample size) and the overwhelming number of better defensemen are in the 1st round - kind of obvious I'd hope...but the way you throw this phrase out there makes me think you are under the impression that top pairing d-men around the league are equally found after the 1st as in the 1st.

For every Subban/Faulk type that you find in the 2nd or later rounds, there are probably 4-5 d-men drafted in the first round that are such safer bets at being the type of d-man to play on a team for a long time and succeed.

Look through these same drafts and count the number of very good or better d-men drafted Round 2 and later and tell me who you come up with and I'll do the work to compare who is found in round 1 and we'll see if it's worth avoiding taking a shot at what should be the better talent.
- stashu

Colin Chisholm
Hannu Virta *
Greg Brown
Denis Tsygurov
Rumun Ndur
Cory Sarich *
Henrik Tallinder *
Doug Janik
Gerard Dicaire
John Adams
Mike Funk
Andrej Sekera *
Marc-Andre Gragnani
Mike Weber *
Drew Schiestel
T.J. Brennan
Corey Fienhage
Matt Mackenzie
Brayden McNabb *
Jerome Leduc


these are the d men the sabres have drafted in a 30 year stretch 1980-2010 in the 2nd or 3rd rd

I put a * next to the ones that even sniffed justification for their results


aside from virta, hank and sekera

really they all suck

Reminded me of a girl I met.
- cabin

To me it just looks like somebody took some diseased greasy meat and shoved it into two wornout buns.

Oh wait ...

- homiedclown

hot dog garbage plates are for communists.

wtf?

weak tea
- Der Kaiser

you don't like the sideways sloppy joe?

Plenty of places .
- cabin

Buffalo is not a place for paint parties, pool parties , loads of nightclubs on top of the buildings , hot girls ( playboy girls etc )

Buffalo is a place where you start a family and you raise your kids because you're sick of all that poop

Colin Chisholm
Hannu Virta *
Greg Brown
Denis Tsygurov
Rumun Ndur
Cory Sarich *
Henrik Tallinder *
Doug Janik
Gerard Dicaire
John Adams
Mike Funk
Andrej Sekera *
Marc-Andre Gragnani
Mike Weber *
Drew Schiestel
T.J. Brennan
Corey Fienhage
Matt Mackenzie
Brayden McNabb *
Jerome Leduc


these are the d men the sabres have drafted in a 30 year stretch 1980-2010 in the 2nd or 3rd rd

I put a * next to the ones that even sniffed justification for their results


aside from virta, hank and sekera

really they all suck
- homiedclown

It's a new day.

Post 2010, we hit (or look to have hit) on both defensemen taken in the 2nd or 3rd round. McCabe's in and Guhle seems to be a huge hit for a late 2nd rounder.. question is, do we ever see Martin? So far, 2/3 I'd say with a chance for 3/3.

jump on the Connor Keller Bandwagon he's not too small Johnny Hockey Jonny Drouin Danny Briere LETS GO!
- Der Kaiser

I forgot there was this guy from the blues that was just absolutely killing it in the playoffs maybe you can remind me of his name

jump on the Connor Keller Bandwagon he's not too small Johnny Hockey Jonny Drouin Danny Briere LETS GO!
- Der Kaiser

Clayton Keller... And no thanks. Not at 8. If we want him we trade down.

To me it just looks like somebody took some diseased greasy meat and shoved it into two wornout buns.

Oh wait ...
- Der Kaiser

I thought the same

Buffalo is not a place for paint parties, pool parties , loads of nightclubs on top of the buildings , hot girls ( playboy girls etc )

Buffalo is a place where you start a family and you raise your kids because you're sick of all that poop
- GERBE!!!75PTS

so being in playboy is what it takes to be hot?

I forgot there was this guy from the blues that was just absolutely killing it in the playoffs maybe you can remind me of his name
- GERBE!!!75PTS

lets look on the cup for his name