I hated the pick when it was made everyone told me to chill out he could be just like his dad etc
- GERBE!!!75PTS

He's a good player. I can't comprehend how he wanted out of here to go to Winnipeg of all places though. Theres maybe five or so cities in the NHL with less to do and worse weather then Buffalo and Winnipeg is one of them. Mix in where they are located geographically and....

I haven't heard any feedback...

Word is that CLB is trying hard to get rid of Hartnell. 4.75M AAV for 3 more years. Actual salary is 5, 5, 4.5, and 3.

Past few seasons...

13-14 PHI 20g/32a (78 games)
14-15 CLB 28g/32a (77 games)
15-16 CLB 23g/26a (79 games)


I would personally LOVE to have his physical play here even at 34 years old. Would be an AWESOME physical veteran 2LW to put on Eichel's wing if Kane is 1LW.

I offered Ennis with us retaining possibly 1.5M being then a 3M cap hit for 3 more seasons. Adding a possible 2nd or 3rd rounder or even a winger like bailey, baptiste, carrier, possler, etc.

I think we should jump at that option.
- JVince11

Yes yes yes yes .. Hartnell is still solid as hell I would love to add him a nice top six forward I would trade Marcus for him not Ennis

City or team?

WPG is loaded with young talent. Adding Laine only makes them better. I'll be curious to see who makes a run first us or them
- sbroads24

City obviously. That's why he didn't want to stay here I'm assuming considering we are also one of the most upcoming teams and he obviously didn't know Laine was going to be there when he got traded

Yes yes yes yes .. Hartnell is still solid as hell I would love to add him a nice top six forward I would trade Marcus for him not Ennis
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Three more years at 4.75?? He would cost us a 3rd round pick maximum

If you've got some time to kill.

http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/expansion

Expansion simulator.
- chilliard77

Nice, they pre-lock all the NMC guys. Chicago only gets to choose 4 people to protect.

I haven't heard any feedback...

Word is that CLB is trying hard to get rid of Hartnell. 4.75M AAV for 3 more years. Actual salary is 5, 5, 4.5, and 3.

Past few seasons...

13-14 PHI 20g/32a (78 games)
14-15 CLB 28g/32a (77 games)
15-16 CLB 23g/26a (79 games)


I would personally LOVE to have his physical play here even at 34 years old. Would be an AWESOME physical veteran 2LW to put on Eichel's wing if Kane is 1LW.

I offered Ennis with us retaining possibly 1.5M being then a 3M cap hit for 3 more seasons. Adding a possible 2nd or 3rd rounder or even a winger like bailey, baptiste, carrier, possler, etc.

I think we should jump at that option.
- JVince11

His NMC stays with him, as long as you dont have any expansion draft fwd protection issues, then go for it.

If Harntell means you lose a good player bc of that NMC, well stay away

He's a good player. I can't comprehend how he wanted out of here to go to Winnipeg of all places though. Theres maybe five or so cities in the NHL with less to do and worse weather then Buffalo and Winnipeg is one of them. Mix in where they are located geographically and....
- bluengold12

I don't think hes a good player maybe just like kassian
But my hatred is strong for him lol

I have no clue maybe because of barrie colts idk

I haven't heard any feedback...

Word is that CLB is trying hard to get rid of Hartnell. 4.75M AAV for 3 more years. Actual salary is 5, 5, 4.5, and 3.

Past few seasons...

13-14 PHI 20g/32a (78 games)
14-15 CLB 28g/32a (77 games)
15-16 CLB 23g/26a (79 games)


I would personally LOVE to have his physical play here even at 34 years old. Would be an AWESOME physical veteran 2LW to put on Eichel's wing if Kane is 1LW.

I offered Ennis with us retaining possibly 1.5M being then a 3M cap hit for 3 more seasons. Adding a possible 2nd or 3rd rounder or even a winger like bailey, baptiste, carrier, possler, etc.

I think we should jump at that option.
- JVince11

You want to trade Ennis, retain salary, give them a pick/prospect and take on Hartnell's contract?

I haven't heard any feedback...

Word is that CLB is trying hard to get rid of Hartnell. 4.75M AAV for 3 more years. Actual salary is 5, 5, 4.5, and 3.

Past few seasons...

13-14 PHI 20g/32a (78 games)
14-15 CLB 28g/32a (77 games)
15-16 CLB 23g/26a (79 games)


I would personally LOVE to have his physical play here even at 34 years old. Would be an AWESOME physical veteran 2LW to put on Eichel's wing if Kane is 1LW.

I offered Ennis with us retaining possibly 1.5M being then a 3M cap hit for 3 more seasons. Adding a possible 2nd or 3rd rounder or even a winger like bailey, baptiste, carrier, possler, etc.

I think we should jump at that option.
- JVince11

The flyers would hate us for that

Nice, they pre-lock all the NMC guys. Chicago only gets to choose 4 people to protect.
- stashu

One thing this doesn't account for though is when the expansion draft will take place (probably next year or two years), so it still has the current rosters to pick from as if the draft was happening today.

I haven't heard any feedback...

Word is that CLB is trying hard to get rid of Hartnell. 4.75M AAV for 3 more years. Actual salary is 5, 5, 4.5, and 3.

Past few seasons...

13-14 PHI 20g/32a (78 games)
14-15 CLB 28g/32a (77 games)
15-16 CLB 23g/26a (79 games)


I would personally LOVE to have his physical play here even at 34 years old. Would be an AWESOME physical veteran 2LW to put on Eichel's wing if Kane is 1LW.

I offered Ennis with us retaining possibly 1.5M being then a 3M cap hit for 3 more seasons. Adding a possible 2nd or 3rd rounder or even a winger like bailey, baptiste, carrier, possler, etc.

I think we should jump at that option.
- JVince11

Yea, no. That offer is very bad.

CBJ wants to shed his salary bad.

Offer a 3rd rd pick with no retention on their side.

Yes yes yes yes .. Hartnell is still solid as hell I would love to add him a nice top six forward I would trade Marcus for him not Ennis
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I guess I didn't think they would go for that. I figured they would want a skilled NHL player back.

Maybe I am off base with trade offer but I think Ennis might not ever be the same player after being lit up like he was and missing 4 months.

Three more years at 4.75?? He would cost us a 3rd round pick maximum
- bluengold12

Hartnel Is no scrub he'll get you 20-25 goals year if it just cost us Marcus I would do it in a second

You want to trade Ennis, retain salary, give them a pick/prospect and take on Hartnell's contract?

- chilliard77

Agreed - they should be given us a prospect for taking on Hartnell. Ennis stays. I do like Hartnell though; 3rd rounder seems fair

His NMC stays with him, as long as you dont have any expansion draft fwd protection issues, then go for it.

If Harntell means you lose a good player bc of that NMC, well stay away
- DDM-Coga

You sure about that? I thought it's voided once traded.

Big reason why there's speculation Bogosian's was voided as well

I haven't heard any feedback...

Word is that CLB is trying hard to get rid of Hartnell. 4.75M AAV for 3 more years. Actual salary is 5, 5, 4.5, and 3.

Past few seasons...

13-14 PHI 20g/32a (78 games)
14-15 CLB 28g/32a (77 games)
15-16 CLB 23g/26a (79 games)


I would personally LOVE to have his physical play here even at 34 years old. Would be an AWESOME physical veteran 2LW to put on Eichel's wing if Kane is 1LW.

I offered Ennis with us retaining possibly 1.5M being then a 3M cap hit for 3 more seasons. Adding a possible 2nd or 3rd rounder or even a winger like bailey, baptiste, carrier, possler, etc.

I think we should jump at that option.
- JVince11

Are we going to protect or want to be forced to have to protect a 34 year old winger in the Expansion Draft? I wouldn't deal Ennis for him and I have no problem dealing Ennis but not for a 34 year old.

Yea, no. That offer is very bad.

CBJ wants to shed his salary bad.

Offer a 3rd rd pick with no retention on their side.
- ImThatGuy

Again... I didn't assume they would just GIVE him away seeing as how he is still a very good player . Ennis I think he goign to be a shell not like he was and we need to dump his salary like Moulson.

You sure about that? I thought it's voided once traded.

Big reason why there's speculation Bogosian's was voided as well
- bluengold12

NTCs can be voided, NMC stays with you.

Look at Hartnell

Hartnel Is no scrub he'll get you 20-25 goals year if it just cost us Marcus I would do it in a second
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Carolina gave up a low end 2nd rounder and a 3rd for a younger player with better upside. It won't cost a player. I get the link to Foligno but if anything we trade for his brother not the other way around

NTCs can be voided, NMC stays with you.

Look at Hartnell
- DDM-Coga

It must be different per case because Murray and also capfriendly believe Bogosian's NMC was voided when he came here.

Agreed - they should be given us a prospect for taking on Hartnell. Ennis stays. I do like Hartnell though; 3rd rounder seems fair
- turbo044

Hartnell can still play, but he is declining. I don't want to be paying a 37 year old Hartnell 4.75 when we have to sign Reinhart/Eichel.

One thing this doesn't account for though is when the expansion draft will take place (probably next year or two years), so it still has the current rosters to pick from as if the draft was happening today.
- chilliard77

Yep, just noticed that as a bunch of expiring contracts are on there. Still fun.

It must be different per case because Murray and also capfriendly believe Bogosian's NMC was voided when he came here.
- bluengold12

The argument was that Bogo's NMC didn't kick in to his contract until the 3rd (maybe 2nd?) season which would have been this past season i think it was... so he didn't have the NMC at the time he was traded yet which keeps it in tact.

That was how I understood it.

It must be different per case because Murray and also capfriendly believe Bogosian's NMC was voided when he came here.
- bluengold12

Its pretty damn rare if a NMC is voided, it protects the players from being traded to a team just to be dumped into the minors.

Yep, just noticed that as a bunch of expiring contracts are on there. Still fun.
- stashu

By the time everyone has to protect players , the teams should be very different .