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Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:09 AM ET
For those who seem to think EDM trade is plausible here would be what I hear:

To EDM:
#8 Overall
Pysyk
Girgensons

To BUF:
#4 Overall
Eberle
Ference
Prospect

Eberle is a good fit with McD but they want to have Nuge or Draisital play that spot. Taking Ference would be a cap dump for them and upgraded with Pysyk. We would be filling his spot with a dman that is a part of another trade. Girgensons for Ebs is all about versatility being a top 9 guy mainly a center...Ebs is a top 6 RW we would need more than EDM so we help out each team in their own way. The prospect thrown in is where things get tricky but I would think it would be a minor player for AHL most likely

Eberle Cap hit is 6 mil so once we rid ourselves of the moulson, gionta, franson cap concerns via buy out or new, cheaper deal it will all fit into place
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:10 AM ET
Those terms have been used forever

Your boy has never said dad I just scored a filthy goal on Xbox?

Ov just undressed a defenseman for A disgusting goal

Or wow Jack is just nasty

- GERBE!!!75PTS



You can use it to describe a play, a catch or a goal, but you can't use it to describe someone's wife or girlfriend.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 16 @ 11:12 AM ET
For those who seem to think EDM trade is plausible here would be what I hear:

To EDM:
#8 Overall
Pysyk
Girgensons

To BUF:
#4 Overall
Eberle
Ference
Prospect

Eberle is a good fit with McD but they want to have Nuge or Draisital play that spot. Taking Ference would be a cap dump for them and upgraded with Pysyk. We would be filling his spot with a dman that is a part of another trade. Girgensons for Ebs is all about versatility being a top 9 guy mainly a center...Ebs is a top 6 RW we would need more than EDM so we help out each team in their own way. The prospect thrown in is where things get tricky but I would think it would be a minor player for AHL most likely

Eberle Cap hit is 6 mil so once we rid ourselves of the moulson, gionta, franson cap concerns via buy out or new, cheaper deal it will all fit into place

- Beezer33


Thanks Beezer
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 11:13 AM ET
You can use it to describe a play, a catch or a goal, but you can't use it to describe someone's wife or girlfriend.
- Stripes77


A lot of people use nasty for girls in a good way I said no offense so I wouldn't get my ass kicked before I said it so he wouldn't get offended . but of course everyone is spinning this on me .

I apologize Lots of times I think this matter should be over with
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 16 @ 11:13 AM ET
Yes she was.

I had to come back early for work and she kept the kids. I made the most of my Saturday night. I played a little pick up hockey. She was wasted and started blowing up my phone. She thought I was having an affair...I told her the game of hockey has been my mistress forever...

She was an absolute puddle when I talked to her around midnight.

- Stripes77


She told me she thought you were having an affair. I told her she was crazy. At midnight when the wedding ended, she thought her brothers left her there. Luckily I found Danny for her. They both seemed to be having a lot of fun with how drunk she was.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:13 AM ET
Yes she was.

I had to come back early for work and she kept the kids. I made the most of my Saturday night. I played a little pick up hockey. She was wasted and started blowing up my phone. She thought I was having an affair...I told her the game of hockey has been my mistress forever...

She was an absolute puddle when I talked to her around midnight.

- Stripes77


HAHAHA priceless
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:13 AM ET
For those who seem to think EDM trade is plausible here would be what I hear:

To EDM:
#8 Overall
Pysyk
Girgensons

To BUF:
#4 Overall
Eberle
Ference
Prospect

Eberle is a good fit with McD but they want to have Nuge or Draisital play that spot. Taking Ference would be a cap dump for them and upgraded with Pysyk. We would be filling his spot with a dman that is a part of another trade. Girgensons for Ebs is all about versatility being a top 9 guy mainly a center...Ebs is a top 6 RW we would need more than EDM so we help out each team in their own way. The prospect thrown in is where things get tricky but I would think it would be a minor player for AHL most likely

Eberle Cap hit is 6 mil so once we rid ourselves of the moulson, gionta, franson cap concerns via buy out or new, cheaper deal it will all fit into place

- Beezer33



If that's all it takes I would think GMTM would have pulled the trigger by now.

Taking Ference as a cap hit or not that is still not enough IMO to move up from 8 to 4 AND get a top 6 RWer
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:14 AM ET
She told me she thought you were having an affair. I told her she was crazy. At midnight when the wedding ended, she thought her brothers left her there. Luckily I found Danny for her. They both seemed to be having a lot of fun with how drunk she was.
- HonkFortheGoose



Yeah we had a pretty entertaining ride to Disney yesterday her other brother Ryan flew down here with her. I was laughing the entire time. She's a light weight that's for sure and with all of her medical crap over the years she wasn't drinking. Let's just say she is learning the hard way she's not 21 anymore.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 16 @ 11:17 AM ET
Yeah we had a pretty entertaining ride to Disney yesterday her other brother Ryan flew down here with her. I was laughing the entire time. She's a light weight that's for sure and with all of her medical crap over the years she wasn't drinking. Let's just say she is learning the hard way she's not 21 anymore.
- Stripes77


It's too bad you had to leave! The wedding was great.

I'm glad she made it home safe and sound. Good luck to you guys with your kiddos.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:17 AM ET
Thanks Beezer
- cabin


No problem. The vesey/stamkos watch makes plans interesting but I am hearing that since the Foligno-Larsson-Gio line did so well Girgensons would have to play wing but that is not his best fit, which is at center instead.....but our top 9 is loaded already really
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:18 AM ET
For those who seem to think EDM trade is plausible here would be what I hear:

To EDM:
#8 Overall
Pysyk
Girgensons

To BUF:
#4 Overall
Eberle
Ference
Prospect

Eberle is a good fit with McD but they want to have Nuge or Draisital play that spot. Taking Ference would be a cap dump for them and upgraded with Pysyk. We would be filling his spot with a dman that is a part of another trade. Girgensons for Ebs is all about versatility being a top 9 guy mainly a center...Ebs is a top 6 RW we would need more than EDM so we help out each team in their own way. The prospect thrown in is where things get tricky but I would think it would be a minor player for AHL most likely

Eberle Cap hit is 6 mil so once we rid ourselves of the moulson, gionta, franson cap concerns via buy out or new, cheaper deal it will all fit into place

- Beezer33


Ughh... I hope GMTM's not considering this trade
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:18 AM ET
It's too bad you had to leave! The wedding was great.

I'm glad she made it home safe and sound. Good luck to you guys with your kiddos.

- HonkFortheGoose



I heard the wedding was a blast!

I really wanted to be there for it.

Thanks, the littlest one is a bit of a handful at the moment!
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:19 AM ET
Ughh... I hope GMTM's not considering this trade
- mattsox


Key thing to keep in mind here is the idea of the "inital framework of a trade"
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 11:19 AM ET
For those who seem to think EDM trade is plausible here would be what I hear:

To EDM:
#8 Overall
Pysyk
Girgensons

To BUF:
#4 Overall
Eberle
Ference
Prospect

Eberle is a good fit with McD but they want to have Nuge or Draisital play that spot. Taking Ference would be a cap dump for them and upgraded with Pysyk. We would be filling his spot with a dman that is a part of another trade. Girgensons for Ebs is all about versatility being a top 9 guy mainly a center...Ebs is a top 6 RW we would need more than EDM so we help out each team in their own way. The prospect thrown in is where things get tricky but I would think it would be a minor player for AHL most likely

Eberle Cap hit is 6 mil so once we rid ourselves of the moulson, gionta, fransoyn cap concerns via buy out or new, cheaper deal it will all fit into place

- Beezer33



This makes no sense were giving up nothing if this is true. Breakdown


Oilers get
A bottom forward 3rd line center
A top 4 defenseman
8th ( A potential first line player or top for defenseman )



Buffalo gets
A top forward
A potential all star forward ( 4th)
A bottom pairing defenseman
And a prospect





hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:20 AM ET
I heard the wedding was a blast!

I really wanted to be there for it.

Thanks, the littlest one is a bit of a handful at the moment!

- Stripes77


the 2nd child is always best
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 16 @ 11:21 AM ET
No problem. The vesey/stamkos watch makes plans interesting but I am hearing that since the Foligno-Larsson-Gio line did so well Girgensons would have to play wing but that is not his best fit, which is at center instead.....but our top 9 is loaded already really
- Beezer33


Is Ferrence recovered from the hip surgery ? Seems he only played 6 games last season.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:21 AM ET
Ughh... I hope GMTM's not considering this trade
- mattsox



Can I ask why?

The cost to move up from 8 to 4 would be the 8th and Pysyk plus IMO

If Zemgus Girgensons gets you Eberle then you do that all day everyday even if it means taking on Ference for one year with a $3.75 million cap hit.

You can still pull the trigger on Stamkos
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 16 @ 11:22 AM ET
This makes no sense were giving up nothing if this is true. Breakdown


Oilers get
A bottom forward 3rd line center
A top 4 defenseman
8th ( A potential first line player or top for defenseman )



Buffalo gets
A top forward
A potential all star forward ( 4th)
A bottom pairing defenseman
And a prospect

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Yeah ? So what.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:22 AM ET
the 2nd child is always best
- hubie




Haha I beg to differ!!!!

When are you and the Mrs. coming down? We will be back up in September!
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:23 AM ET
This makes no sense were giving up nothing if this is true. Breakdown


Oilers get
A bottom forward 3rd line center
A top 4 defenseman
8th ( A potential first line player or top for defenseman )



Buffalo gets
A top forward
A potential all star forward ( 4th)
A bottom pairing defenseman
And a prospect

- GERBE!!!75PTS


If the prospect is Jake Caggulia
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 11:23 AM ET
Can I ask why?

The cost to move up from 8 to 4 would be the 8th and Pysyk plus IMO

If Zemgus Girgensons gets you Eberle then you do that all day everyday even if it means taking on Ference for one year with a $3.75 million cap hit.

You can still pull the trigger on Stamkos

- Stripes77


How does the eighth pick , pysyk get you 4th ? Honest question if the shoe was on the other foot would you say that's a good trade no

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:24 AM ET
How does the eighth pick , pysyk get you 4th ? Honest question if the shoe was on the other foot would you say that's a good trade no
- GERBE!!!75PTS


It doesn't

I said the 8th pick Pysyk plus...
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:24 AM ET
This makes no sense were giving up nothing if this is true. Breakdown


Oilers get
A bottom forward 3rd line center
A top 4 defenseman
8th ( A potential first line player or top for defenseman )



Buffalo gets
A top forward
A potential all star forward ( 4th)
A bottom pairing defenseman
And a prospect

- GERBE!!!75PTS


You need to look at this trade in terms of hockey value and where each timeline is at. EDM has forwards galore but has no where to fit them all with 3 top line centers so they will shift one to the wing. Using an older than the rest of their "core"Eberle it opens up a spot for Draistal to play with McD on the wing instead.

Ennis is a mystery to me where he falls in any deal but I would hope they take a look at him with Eichel for a bit longer just in case but again with the Vesey rumors heating up more than Stamkos....Pysyk is our #4/5 dman currently..risto, mccabe and bogo rank ahead of him in our organization and especially with being able to only protect so many players this move shows that. Trading for Ference is doing them a favor but also the price of moving up...take away the prospect maybe but this is again just word on the street currently...
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 11:24 AM ET


If the prospect is Jake Caggulia

- mattsox



The trade would make even more less sense then
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:25 AM ET


If the prospect is Jake Caggulia

- mattsox


No clue who Jake is...Drake Caggulia is pretty good at hockey tho
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