I think the Bickell, Teravainen deal is a win for Chi personally.

Yes Teravainen might turn out to be a top 6 player but they got pretty good value for a guy who still has a lot of question marks.

If most people agree Baertschi for a 2nd was good value, doesn't moving Teravainen for a 2nd, 3rd and 4 million in cap space make it look like coup for the Hawks?

Teravainen is a better prospect than Baertschi was at 21 but I'm not sure their upside is much different.
- belcherbd

I agree with you and I haven't had a drink
I just said the exact same thing to a buddy praising Carolina. Solid trade for Chicago

TT and SB will probably be very similar players. I think TT will have slightly better point production, but SB will have a better 2 way game.
- Retinalz

Really? I think TT is the superior player in both aspects. Now that he is likely to see top 6 minutes/opportunities in Carolina I think his usage will be favorable and his production will improve dramatically.

How long did Vantel get banned for?
- golfingsince

#freevantel

I must have missed that, was he posting in another teams comments section?
- hillbillydeluxe

I haven't seen him posting for a bit. I figure his lashing at the Oilers fan got him.

I agree with you and I haven't had a drink
I just said the exact same thing to a buddy praising Carolina. Solid trade for Chicago
- CanuckDon

I don't think it's a loss for Carolina either though. They get an NHL ready top 6 guy and someone who can play on their bottom 6 for now. They don't have cap issues.

I haven't seen him posting for a bit. I figure his lashing at the Oilers fan got him.
- golfingsince

ahh. nice day out there, maybe he is out enjoying the weather, maybe I'll run into him.

cheers.

I don't think it's a loss for Carolina either though. They get an NHL ready top 6 guy and someone who can play on their bottom 6 for now. They don't have cap issues.
- golfingsince

Thats fair, they both did ok. I was just a bit surprised CHI was able to gain two picks

Really? I think TT is the superior player in both aspects. Now that he is likely to see top 6 minutes/opportunities in Carolina I think his usage will be favorable and his production will improve dramatically.
- RonPielep

It will be interesting to see how it plays out, Chicago will be fine without TT and can use that Bickell capspace very well. For Carolina, you hope that TT thrives with the opportunity instead of being exposed. The Canes have a decent set of forwards but not like the Hawks, it'll be interesting for sure

I don't think it's a loss for Carolina either though. They get an NHL ready top 6 guy and someone who can play on their bottom 6 for now. They don't have cap issues.
- golfingsince

Hence the reason you accumulate picks at the deadline.

It's the purest form of currency in the NHL.

Thanks fair, they both did ok. I was just a bit surprised CHI was able to gain two picks without trading with Benning.
- CanuckDon

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Hence the reason you accumulate picks at the deadline.

It's the purest form of currency in the NHL.
- classic321

That and cap space to cap strapped teams.

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- golfingsince

I agree with you and I haven't had a drink
I just said the exact same thing to a buddy praising Carolina. Solid trade for Chicago
- CanuckDon

I disagree. Look at the freak out here when Benning traded McCann for Gudbrandson. Could you imagine if he had traded Burrows and McCann for a 2nd and 3rd?

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- golfingsince

I disagree. Look at the freak out here when Benning traded McCann for Gudbrandson. Could you imagine if he had traded Burrows and McCann for a 2nd and 3rd?


- fiveandagame

Different situation though. They're a cup contending team that needs space to sign players, not a team that should be holding onto youth at all costs.

I disagree. Look at the freak out here when Benning traded McCann for Gudbrandson. Could you imagine if he had traded Burrows and McCann for a 2nd and 3rd?


- fiveandagame

There is also a freak out because we didn't make this trade...and there would be a freak out if we did. I try not to concern myself with the dillusional members of this fanbase.

I disagree. Look at the freak out here when Benning traded McCann for Gudbrandson. Could you imagine if he had traded Burrows and McCann for a 2nd and 3rd?


- fiveandagame

Totally different situations. The cap space is worth more to Chi than Van and the picks are worth more to Chi than Gudbranson would be (considering their cap situation).

Still think it was a good deal for Carolina but I don't really like to see anybody helping the Hawks out of their cap problems unless it is for a proper fleecing (which I don't think this was).

Different situation though. They're a cup contending team that needs space to sign players, not a team that should be holding onto youth at all costs.
- golfingsince

It's OK. You're an Oilers fan, we're used to you guys being slow.
- golfingsince

I agree with you and I haven't had a drink
I just said the exact same thing to a buddy praising Carolina. Solid trade for Chicago
- CanuckDon

Teravainen

Personally, I laugh at the emo, sky-is-falling-crowd. I hope they team continues to develope and the kids improve and gain experience but feel that the playoffs are a pipe (bong) dream.
- Marwood

My work here is done....

I'm curious since I really have no clue, what is Boesers expected skill cap? Are we expecting him to be a 1st line player?

Really? I think TT is the superior player in both aspects. Now that he is likely to see top 6 minutes/opportunities in Carolina I think his usage will be favorable and his production will improve dramatically.
- RonPielep

Fully agree. SB doesnt hold a candle to TT....

Fully agree. SB doesnt hold a candle to TT....
- chompsey

I think it's too early to say that. With Sven you can't really look at his age because his growth was so stunted with Calgary, he's only now starting to catch up to where he should've been years ago. He could still turn out to be better than most are saying he will.