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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:05 PM ET
http://nuckshockey.com/index.php?story=45769

This one sucks
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 15 @ 9:10 PM ET
http://nuckshockey.com/index.php?story=45769

This one sucks

- VANTEL


Desharnais is TERRIBLE.

He was a healthy scratch 5 times last year.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:11 PM ET
Desharnais is TERRIBLE.

He was a healthy scratch 5 times last year.

- classic321


That proposal is stupid
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:11 PM ET
http://nuckshockey.com/index.php?story=45769

This one sucks

- VANTEL


I think he'd be shot out in the back if he did the deal for Desharnais and the 9th for the 5th. That would be a crappy trade for us. Include Beaulieu and I'd say yes though
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 15 @ 9:12 PM ET
I think with Burrows it could go either way. He might be packaged (salary retained), he could be a solo trade (salary retained) and if all else fails he is bought out on the final day.

Higgins who knows?

- VANTEL


Another options - Burrows is retained and plays out his contract.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:14 PM ET
Another options - Burrows is retained and plays out his contract.
- dbot

Good one.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 15 @ 9:14 PM ET
Good one.
- VANTEL

WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:17 PM ET
Aside from not trading first round draft picks ( recently selected players not included) I haven't seen much consistency in the plan. Trying to get younger is obvious, but holding on to vets and allowing them to walk for nothing. That seems to be what we're dealing with.

Unless we're mathematically eliminated at the TDL, I expect we'll see much of the same. If we are eliminated at that point, I can see a regime change happening as well.

- golfingsince


I think buying out Burrows could potentially be a good idea due to his NTC. He could just cause problems with any potential trades IF that's even a possibility. Not about cap space but just moving on and making our next TDL not become the same as the last one.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 15 @ 9:18 PM ET
I think with Burrows it could go either way. He might be packaged (salary retained), he could be a solo trade (salary retained) and if all else fails he is bought out on the final day.

Higgins who knows?

- VANTEL



Higgins isn't eligible for a buyout apparently

the minimum cap hit is 2.8 million.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:21 PM ET
Well they found the toddler
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:23 PM ET
The price set by TB for negotiating rights with Stamkos is a 2nd and young NHL ready winger.


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:23 PM ET
I think buying out Burrows could potentially be a good idea due to his NTC. He could just cause problems with any potential trades IF that's even a possibility. Not about cap space but just moving on and making our next TDL not become the same as the last one.
- WhatTheNuck



The best thing for Burrows is to be bought out. If he plays this yer for Canucks he gets 3 mil. If he gets bought out over the next two years he receives 3.5 plus gets a new contract from his new team.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:25 PM ET
http://nuckshockey.com/index.php?story=45769

This one sucks

- VANTEL

These guys are morons. We trade 5OA and Burrows(we are retaining salary?) for 9oa and 45oa? not only are we getting shafted, but need to retain salary to get shafted in this scenario.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:33 PM ET
The price set by TB for negotiating rights with Stamkos is a 2nd and young NHL ready winger.



- golfingsince

I would laugh if a team paid any more than a 4th rounder. The only reason to do it now is just to be able to legally able to talk any real numbers(as far as i know) and maybe 1 or 2 extra days. 4 or 5 days before UFA teams are allowed to talk to players to determine if it is worth making an offer.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:35 PM ET
Well they found the toddler
- VANTEL


That really got to me. Called my wife after I read the news and had her give the phone to my two year old daughter so I could say hi. Moments like those that remind you how precious each moment is.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:37 PM ET
I would laugh if a team paid any more than a 4th rounder. The only reason to do it now is just to be able to legally able to talk any real numbers(as far as i know) and maybe 1 or 2 extra days. 4 or 5 days before UFA teams are allowed to talk to players to determine if it is worth making an offer.
- Retinalz


I get that he's an elite talent but you want a player now, and a player later for a guy who's gone in a week........or could re-sign with you?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:38 PM ET
That really got to me. Called my wife after I read the news and had her give the phone to my two year old daughter so I could say hi. Moments like those that remind you how precious each moment is.
- WhatTheNuck


I don't know man, I have a two year old and she was on my lap when the news came on the TV. I couldn't help but wonder WTF the parents were doing letting the kid play in a lagoon in Florida after dark.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:41 PM ET
That really got to me. Called my wife after I read the news and had her give the phone to my two year old daughter so I could say hi. Moments like those that remind you how precious each moment is.
- WhatTheNuck



Nothing worse could happen to a parent. Thankfully things like that rarely happen
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:43 PM ET
I don't know man, I have a two year old and she was on my lap when the news came on the TV. I couldn't help but wonder WTF the parents were doing letting the kid play in a lagoon in Florida after dark.
- golfingsince


There's some truth to that, and there were plenty of no swimming signs as well, but at the same time you don't expect alligators on Disney property. There's blame to go around, but none of it belongs to the two year old.

Honestly, I feel for the parents.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:45 PM ET
I don't know man, I have a two year old and she was on my lap when the news came on the TV. I couldn't help but wonder WTF the parents were doing letting the kid play in a lagoon in Florida after dark.
- golfingsince


That was exactly what my wife said. It's pretty odd really. 9pm at night couldn't have been that dark but still you'd think at two years old that you wouldnt let them get far enough for that too happen. When I'm. Outside with my daughter I never get more then 6-10 feet away. They are way too quick to let them roam any further.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:46 PM ET
I think with Burrows it could go either way. He might be packaged (salary retained), he could be a solo trade (salary retained) and if all else fails he is bought out on the final day.

Higgins who knows?

- VANTEL

I think Higgins is done.

Hopefully Bieksa and Kesler are talking up Burrows to Carlyle and we can ship Burr off to ANA…unlikely tho.

Welcome back and thx for the muscle vs that Ron clown.


golfingsince
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Jun 15 @ 9:47 PM ET
There's some truth to that, and there were plenty of no swimming signs as well, but at the same time you don't expect alligators on Disney property. There's blame to go around, but none of it belongs to the two year old.
- CubanBuffet


Of course none to the 2 year old. To me it's difficult to feel bad for the parents. I get a bit of rage inside me thinking about them. I'd rather see them charged then give them any sympathy.

It's a lagoon, in Florida. There are over a million gators in the state. Anyone that's ever been there knows they are everywhere. It's dark, not broad daylight.....which is bad enough.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:48 PM ET
That was exactly what my wife said. It's pretty odd really. 9pm at night couldn't have been that dark but still you'd think at two years old that you wouldnt let them get far enough for that too happen. When I'm. Outside with my daughter I never get more then 6-10 feet away. They are way too quick to let them roam any further.
- WhatTheNuck


Florida is pretty far south of where we live man. I'm sure it's dark by 8.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:52 PM ET
Of course none to the 2 year old. To me it's difficult to feel bad for the parents. I get a bit of rage inside me thinking about them. I'd rather see them charged then give them any sympathy.

It's a lagoon, in Florida. There are over a million gators in the state. Anyone that's ever been there knows they are everywhere. It's dark, not broad daylight.....which is bad enough.

- golfingsince


I just caught part of the news, they said there weren't supposed to be any alligators in the water/lagoon and when they went to look for the 2 yr old, they found 3.

I guess there was a certain sense of safety/security at a Disneyland resort.

very sad.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 15 @ 9:52 PM ET
Of course none to the 2 year old. To me it's difficult to feel bad for the parents. I get a bit of rage inside me thinking about them. I'd rather see them charged then give them any sympathy.

It's a lagoon, in Florida. There are over a million gators in the state. Anyone that's ever been there knows they are everywhere. It's dark, not broad daylight.....which is bad enough.

- golfingsince


I'm not aware of the story, but my thought would be what is the point of charging the parents?
Is any punishment going to come even close to the grief they are going to feel for the rest of their lives? Will it prevent/deter other parents?
I don't think so.
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