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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Oilers choices at No. 4 (hello Buffalo) and Girgensons rumors gone wild
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 16 @ 3:53 PM ET
Hey bud...
Just been crazy busy.
First time I've looked at the Buzz in over a week.

I like Girgensons, but for Fowler?
I'd do that in a second

One thing GmTm is gonna need to consider though
Assuming Bogosian doesn't get traded...
If we do trade for a defenseman like Fowler,
That means we'll have to leave McCabe unprotected

- jdfitz77


Could go with the 8 skaters route. Leave one of Ennis, Larrson, or Foligno unprotected.

Have protected: D: Risto, Fowler, Bogo, McCabe
F: Kane, ROR, 2 of Ennis, Larrson, or Foligno
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 16 @ 3:53 PM ET
Everyone hates Gus now we can add Clayton keller to your list
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Its this (frank)in bullpoop mentality that if a guy has a down year he is a bum/overrated/attitude problem/peaked as a 3rd liner/can't play in the system/what ever other dumb poop people wanna make up

He is 22.

Bring back Girgs...play him until the trade deadline...then we'll talk
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 16 @ 3:53 PM ET
I like a good read any day of the week, this post has lots of info to keep readers reading, the Toronto chant seemed a little out of place and a bit whiny, maybe I'm missing something but it seemed like a redundant jab at your northern superiors :\

all in all, a good read though, minus the whining

- MMFlames


I think the term "superior" has defeated you.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 16 @ 3:56 PM ET
Its this (frank)in bullpoop mentality that if a guy has a down year he is a bum/overrated/attitude problem/peaked as a 3rd liner/can't play in the system/what ever other dumb poop people wanna make up

He is 22.

Bring back Girgs...play him until the trade deadline...then we'll talk

- feetontheair22


I would take Girgensons as 3rd line winger over Foligno any day. CHeaper, better scorer, more gritty, goes to the dirty places more, lays more hits, better 200 ft game, etc.

Foligno is already at 1.85M and GIrgensons is at 894K and Girgensons has better numbers even. I'd be a HELLUVA lot better off paying Girgensons 1.5-2M then paying Foligno 2.4-3.2M.

The only reason why someone wouldn't agree is because of Marcus's last name.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 16 @ 3:56 PM ET
Bickell 1 year left on the contract. I would have swallowed that in a heart beat. His money goes to resign TT next offseason.
- RhinoFan

gerbe?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 3:57 PM ET
Jaskin resigned by STL>

2 year deal.

No numbers yet that I can find.

Could play a role in the negotiations with a few Sabres.

- JVince11


I have been told agents don't use other players contracts for negotiations
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 3:57 PM ET
Bickell 1 year left on the contract. I would have swallowed that in a heart beat. His money goes to resign TT next offseason.
- RhinoFan

Post of the day
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jun 16 @ 3:58 PM ET
Alright so which of these things are we currently doing?

( ) Bashing Girgensons
( ) Making up opinions as facts about Girgensons
( ) Trading Girgensons, Pysyk, and a 2nd for XXX
( ) Blaming Bogo and his contract for our defense
( ) Being mad at GMTM for trading a 1st for Lehner
( ) Signing Stamkos and Vesey in every scenario


HINT: You can mark all 6 most likley.

- JVince11


Alright so which of these things are we currently doing?

✅Bashing Girgensons
✅ Making up opinions as facts about Girgensons
✅Trading Girgensons, Pysyk, and a 2nd for XXX
✅ Bogo and his contract for o defense
✅Being mad at GMTM for trading a 1st for Lehner
✅Signing Stamkos and Vesey in every scenario

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
I give up.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
Its this (frank)in bullpoop mentality that if a guy has a down year he is a bum/overrated/attitude problem/peaked as a 3rd liner/can't play in the system/what ever other dumb poop people wanna make up

He is 22.

Bring back Girgs...play him until the trade deadline...then we'll talk

- feetontheair22


If Girgs gets you Fowler, you need to do it.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 4:00 PM ET
gerbe?
- CaptainRivet




(frank) you

Hubie Still has the best one .. I will buy a guy and go on top of a mountain and blow my brains out
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
I would take Girgensons as 3rd line winger over Foligno any day. CHeaper, better scorer, more gritty, goes to the dirty places more, lays more hits, better 200 ft game, etc.

Foligno is already at 1.85M and GIrgensons is at 894K and Girgensons has better numbers even. I'd be a HELLUVA lot better off paying Girgensons 1.5-2M then paying Foligno 2.4-3.2M.

The only reason why someone wouldn't agree is because of Marcus's last name.

- JVince11


Now who's making stuff up as fact...
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
I give up.
- RhinoFan



never give up never surrender
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 16 @ 4:03 PM ET
(frank) you

Hubie Still has the best one .. I will buy a guy and go on top of a mountain and blow his brains out

- GERBE!!!75PTS



CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
(frank) you

Hubie Still has the best one .. I will buy a guy and go on top of a mountain and blow my brains out

- GERBE!!!75PTS

That's downright nasty
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
Would anyone do Pysyk for LAK's Mersch and probably a pick?


They have a glutton of LW but need Defensive depth... we have Pysyk who doesn't seem to fit. Mersch would still be expansion protected. He potted 24 goals in the AHL last year and 22 the year before. 23 years old. 1 more year at 787K before RFA

6'2 218lbs

Don't know a ton about him outside of stat line and some headlines. Anyone?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
I would take Girgensons as 3rd line winger over Foligno any day. CHeaper, better scorer, more gritty, goes to the dirty places more, lays more hits, better 200 ft game, etc.

Foligno is already at 1.85M and GIrgensons is at 894K and Girgensons has better numbers even. I'd be a HELLUVA lot better off paying Girgensons 1.5-2M then paying Foligno 2.4-3.2M.

The only reason why someone wouldn't agree is because of Marcus's last name.

- JVince11


Agreed ... He was a monster when he first came here hit people constantly did everything right he played up to 100% Now he just plays whenever he's just happy to be in the NHL and that's it .
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 4:05 PM ET
(frank) you

Hubie Still has the best one .. I will buy a guy and go on top of a mountain and blow my brains out

- GERBE!!!75PTS



I didn't know you could buy a guy

Was one of the better to follow after that
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 4:05 PM ET

- cabin




Cabin you missed that one? It was a classic
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 16 @ 4:08 PM ET
Agreed ... He was a monster when he first came here hit people constantly did everything right he played up to 100% Now he just plays whenever he's just happy to be in the NHL and that's it .
- GERBE!!!75PTS


C'mon?? Really?


*Steps off Keller bandwagon*
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 4:08 PM ET
Agreed on the oilers not getting a kings ransom to trade down a few spots.
Pysyk is probably the caliber of player they could expect at best. That said, they've already got Brandon Davidson, so I'm not sure pysyk really fills a huge need

As far as the forward picks over the last while, easy pachla....
since 2010 there was really only one defender that was a rational pick at the spot they picked, but went with the forward instead.
Murray over yaks. And even then, the guys been a bandaid for most of his first few years and would've made no appreciable difference in their fortunes thus far.
Mayybbee larsson over nuge, but the same can be said about he difference hedve made thus far. Plus, they needed a 1c every bit as bad as a defender at that point.

Guys like trouba and Lindholm really weren't on the radar for those top picks. Hindsight doesn't really work in those cases imo.


Also, they've actually picked 2 defenders in this time frame in the first round. Nurse and klefbom.
Just sayin
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 16 @ 4:10 PM ET
C'mon?? Really?


*Steps off Keller bandwagon*

- JVince11


You think Marcus doesn't half ass it ? Like every four or five games he will turn it on and then he'll go back to his old poop
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 16 @ 4:13 PM ET
You think Marcus doesn't half ass it ? Like every four or five games whole turn it on and then he'll go back to his old poop
- GERBE!!!75PTS


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I thought you were referencing Girgensons with that comment.

Okay we good fam.


Yes I think that Foligno has been a ghost for the majority of the past few seasons but kicks it on the last 15 games or so to make a good appearance going into the off-season. Some have said that a shoulder injury really sidetracked his career.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 16 @ 4:14 PM ET
Would anyone do Pysyk for LAK's Mersch and probably a pick?


They have a glutton of LW but need Defensive depth... we have Pysyk who doesn't seem to fit. Mersch would still be expansion protected. He potted 24 goals in the AHL last year and 22 the year before. 23 years old. 1 more year at 787K before RFA

6'2 218lbs

Don't know a ton about him outside of stat line and some headlines. Anyone?

- JVince11


Not me
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 16 @ 4:15 PM ET
Cabin you missed that one? It was a classic
- GERBE!!!75PTS


I edited it
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