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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 20 @ 8:21 AM ET
you're joking me right Justin Faulk from the Carolina hurricanes ?

You're telling me will get Justin Faulk plus more for just the eighth overall pick

Tim Murray should get fired if he passed on that wtf ...

- GERBE!!!75PTS

I can see why he hasn't pulled the trigger yet if true considering the possibility of trading up but if we were to stay at 8 for whatever reason and not trade the pick for Faulk+ I'd be shaking my head and asking questions.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 8:49 AM ET
Wasn't 89 talking about Faulk a few weeks ago? Maybe there is some truth to this...
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 9:06 AM ET
I can see why he hasn't pulled the trigger yet if true considering the possibility of trading up but if we were to stay at 8 for whatever reason and not trade the pick for Faulk+ I'd be shaking my head and asking questions.
- Pegullaville


I would rather move it for Faulk, We need defense. If it is indeed true, (not discrediting the source) but i cant believe it is. Murray should be removed from his position if true.

I also woke up this morning with the Feeling Lucic will be a Sabre.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 20 @ 9:14 AM ET
I would rather move it for Faulk, We need defense. If it is indeed true, (not discrediting the source) but i cant believe it is. Murray should be removed from his position if true.

I also woke up this morning with the Feeling Lucic will be a Sabre.

- ImThatGuy


True or not, people will grasp it as if it is and there were no other moving pieces and use it as some way to bash Murray in the future...yippeee
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 20 @ 9:17 AM ET
So, honestly asking the question about Faulk...is he the missing link, or one of for the Sabres D? Asking because he is 1) about a -15 to -20 player each year, 2) he a righty? So theoretically, it leaves a hole on the top pair still, unless he can switch sides...and allows 15 more points than he contributes.
I get that he is a ~50 point producer ... So trying to rationalize it in my head.

Does that mean GMTM can then package one of Bogosian/Pysyk and one of Girgensons/Ennis to then find Jack's left side winger?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 9:28 AM ET
So, honestly asking the question about Faulk...is he the missing link, or one of for the Sabres D? Asking because he is 1) about a -15 to -20 player each year, 2) he a righty? So theoretically, it leaves a hole on the top pair still, unless he can switch sides...and allows 15 more points than he contributes.
I get that he is a ~50 point producer ... So trying to rationalize it in my head.

Does that mean GMTM can then package one of Bogosian/Pysyk and one of Girgensons/Ennis to then find Jack's left side winger?

- IonSabres


IMO, people make this a bigger issue than it needs to be. Get the best 6 you can. D-men play both sides of the ice during the entirety of the game anyways.

Carolina is very bad, Granted he should be helping that some if he is "That good" but they are kind of like Buffalo where you can only expect one person to do so much.

That said, him for 8 I would do all day.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 20 @ 9:34 AM ET
I leave.....


and you guys are debating on trading Risto.

The best defensement we have seen here in decades.


JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 20 @ 9:42 AM ET
Word is that Florida is gonna be trying to or at least listen to offers on trading Bjugstad and Kulikov.

I don't know a ton about Kulikov defensively but his offensive numbers are nothing to write home about.

Bjugstad could be a REALLY nice 3C or piece to add to this puzzle of a team. At 6'6 and 220 lbs and pots high teens to low 20s in goals. If he could play wing too it would be that much better. Don't know a ton about him though.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 20 @ 9:47 AM ET
I leave.....


and you guys are debating on trading Risto.

The best defensement we have seen here in decades.



- JVince11


Yeah I don't know where that came from, He wasn't the best defenseman in the world last year, so even though he is young and should progress, trade him, he stinks.

Look at his Assists given up to games played of seconds on ice with Guys who use rubber stick tape vs regular stick tape numbers.

Not good, that's all I can say.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 20 @ 9:50 AM ET
Yeah I don't know where that came from, He wasn't the best defenseman in the world last year, so even though he is young and should progress, trade him, he stinks.

Look at his Assists given up to games played of seconds on ice with Guys who use rubber stick tape vs regular stick tape numbers.

Not good, that's all I can say.

- ImThatGuy


I was getting ready to be mad at you..... but then I realized it..

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:04 AM ET
Holy hell....that was intense!
- stashu

silence

I am watching it tonight
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:04 AM ET
It is hard to believe we are finally going to be seeing additions to the roster again this week. It has hard to believe that we really haven't added anything since opening night last year. Should be fun.
- Slump Buster


Remember that one time back in 2010 when the team made a big deal about signing Shaone Morrisonn, Jordan Leopold and Rob (frank)in Niedermayer?
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:12 AM ET
silence

I am watching it tonight

- homiedclown


Nah, I don't do spoilers, but it was a hell of an episode. Realize it's the 2nd last one of the season and you should know it'll be intense.

What sucks is we'll be away from our chances to watch the finale next week..
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:18 AM ET
Nah, I don't do spoilers, but it was a hell of an episode. Realize it's the 2nd last one of the season and you should know it'll be intense.

What sucks is we'll be away from our chances to watch the finale next week..

- stashu



So we should give play by play analysis
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:31 AM ET
I don't buy the he wants to come home crap... If he ends up in Toronto it's because they offer him more money then anyone else. We don't even know for sure if Murray will go after Stamkos. I suspect we'll find out Tuesday (Murray's presser) that he will give some spiel about not expecting the Sabres to do much in FA and that they will look for trades and ways to improve the team.
- bluengold12


9 out of 10 times the most money gets it done, its just business to them. Sure if the money is close and he can go to a cup contender, he will but this will all come down to money.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
So we should give play by play analysis
- Havic3814


Go for it - I won't be on here to read it anyways.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:41 AM ET
So we should give play by play analysis
- Havic3814

mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 20 @ 10:49 AM ET
via TSN:
The Oilers could target right-handed shot Zach Bogosian of the Buffalo Sabres, but Matheson believes his $5.14 million cap hit is too high for the Oilers. Still, the Sun believes the two teams could become trade partners ahead of Friday’s NHL Draft as the Sabres covet London Knights forward Matthew Tkachuk, who likely won’t be available at the Sabres current spot (eighth overall).

Matheson suggests the Sabres could trade Tyler Ennis, Zemgus Girgensons and/or defenceman Mark Pysyk along with the No. 8 pick to move into the Oilers’ fourth slot.


Coveting Tkachuk is great but I would prefer to covet Ennis, Girgensons, Pysyk, Bogosian and whoever we would pick at 8 more
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:55 AM ET
via TSN:
The Oilers could target right-handed shot Zach Bogosian of the Buffalo Sabres, but Matheson believes his $5.14 million cap hit is too high for the Oilers. Still, the Sun believes the two teams could become trade partners ahead of Friday’s NHL Draft as the Sabres covet London Knights forward Matthew Tkachuk, who likely won’t be available at the Sabres current spot (eighth overall).

Matheson suggests the Sabres could trade Tyler Ennis, Zemgus Girgensons and/or defenceman Mark Pysyk along with the No. 8 pick to move into the Oilers’ fourth slot.


Coveting Tkachuk is great but I would prefer to covet Ennis, Girgensons, Pysyk, Bogosian and whoever we would pick at 8 more

- mattmoulson


If the cost is Ennis, and Zemgus or Pysyk plus #8 to move to #4. I would be okay with that honestly.

I think that Zemgus or Larsson will be gone. They are basically the exact same player and Buffalo resigning Larsson like within a week of the season ending showed what their priority was.

Pysyk is okay but he was passed by McCabe and now perhaps Guhle and Nelson are viewed as replacements for him if his trade value is high.

Ennis at 4.6M is just a big unknown... how bad is the head injury? Is his speed perfect for Eichel's wing? Will he be a 20 goal scorer again?

however.... I think I'd take Tkachuk over Ennis on this team and Eichel's wing every day and twice on Sundays especially with Ennis's 4.6M cap hit for 3 more years.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:56 AM ET
via TSN:
The Oilers could target right-handed shot Zach Bogosian of the Buffalo Sabres, but Matheson believes his $5.14 million cap hit is too high for the Oilers. Still, the Sun believes the two teams could become trade partners ahead of Friday’s NHL Draft as the Sabres covet London Knights forward Matthew Tkachuk, who likely won’t be available at the Sabres current spot (eighth overall).

Matheson suggests the Sabres could trade Tyler Ennis, Zemgus Girgensons and/or defenceman Mark Pysyk along with the No. 8 pick to move into the Oilers’ fourth slot.


Coveting Tkachuk is great but I would prefer to covet Ennis, Girgensons, Pysyk, Bogosian and whoever we would pick at 8 more

- mattmoulson



It's says Ennis, 8, Girgs and/or Pysyk.

So one of three options at least how I read it.

Ennis, 8, and Girgs

Ennis, 8, and Pysyk

Ennis, 8, Girgs, and Pysyk.


JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:59 AM ET
It's says Ennis, 8, Girgs and/or Pysyk.

So one of three options at least how I read it.

Ennis, 8, and Girgs

Ennis, 8, and Pysyk

Ennis, 8, Girgs, and Pysyk.

- dadeadhead


I didn't read the "both" option. I wouldn't be crazy about that one.

Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:03 AM ET
via TSN:
The Oilers could target right-handed shot Zach Bogosian of the Buffalo Sabres, but Matheson believes his $5.14 million cap hit is too high for the Oilers. Still, the Sun believes the two teams could become trade partners ahead of Friday’s NHL Draft as the Sabres covet London Knights forward Matthew Tkachuk, who likely won’t be available at the Sabres current spot (eighth overall).

Matheson suggests the Sabres could trade Tyler Ennis, Zemgus Girgensons and/or defenceman Mark Pysyk along with the No. 8 pick to move into the Oilers’ fourth slot.


Coveting Tkachuk is great but I would prefer to covet Ennis, Girgensons, Pysyk, Bogosian and whoever we would pick at 8 more

- mattmoulson

I'd rather get rid of Ennis' cap hit than Bogosian's
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 11:03 AM ET
I didn't read the "both" option. I wouldn't be crazy about that one.
- JVince11



Moving Ennis clears future space

It gives them more cash to go after Stamkos and/or Yandle.

It allows them not to have to pay Girgs his demand of 4 mil per.

Pick 8 just like any other pick is a roll of the dice.

It clears contract space

It makes it easier on whom to protect.
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 20 @ 11:04 AM ET
It's says Ennis, 8, Girgs and/or Pysyk.

So one of three options at least how I read it.

Ennis, 8, and Girgs

Ennis, 8, and Pysyk

Ennis, 8, Girgs, and Pysyk.

- dadeadhead


I'd rather just draft at 8. Get a LHD.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:08 AM ET
Moving Ennis clears future space

It gives them more cash to go after Stamkos and/or Yandle.

It allows them not to have to pay Girgs his demand of 4 mil per.

Pick 8 just like any other pick is a roll of the dice.

It clears contract space

It makes it easier on whom to protect.

- dadeadhead


Completely made up garbage man. You are better than to believe that crap that people post on here.
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