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golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:04 PM ET
You forget that Tanev is a top 2 defense. There are none on the Market. Rhd that are top 2 are always valuable and requires overpayment as well. Jones isn't yet a 1d and yet git traded for an established 1c
- Retinalz


He's a top 2 on our team.....leaguewide he probably slots in 3/4 .
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 17 @ 9:06 PM ET
Very few teams would have him as a #3. He was ranked in top 10 for defensive side of being a defenseman. If he could put up 40+ pts and 10+ goals he would be a legit #1.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:07 PM ET
So what you're saying is it's either the top pick or the top prospect(not both).....then a prospect and a roster player.
- golfingsince


Was trying to come up with a flames comparable ...Bennett and the pick with backs would be a bit much ...any of the other forward prospects aren't really higher end so I went with one of the two D we have.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:09 PM ET
Very few teams would have him as a #3. He was ranked in top 10 for defensive side of being a defenseman. If he could put up 40+ pts and 10+ goals he would be a legit #1.
- Retinalz


But he can't ...that's not his game ...which is why his value isn't as high as you think ...tanev is a 3/4 guy on any team and with the right #1 partner he is a #2 possibly
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:10 PM ET
But he can't ...that's not his game ...which is why his value isn't as high as you think ...tanev is a 3/4 guy on any team and with the right #1 partner he is a #2 possibly
- Redmile247


I think you will see more point production from Tanev this year
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:10 PM ET
You forget that Tanev is a top 2 defense. There are none on the Market. Rhd that are top 2 are always valuable and requires overpayment as well. Jones isn't yet a 1d and yet git traded for an established 1c
- Retinalz


You can't compare Seth Jones to tanev ...it's apples and oranges
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:12 PM ET
Very few teams would have him as a #3. He was ranked in top 10 for defensive side of being a defenseman. If he could put up 40+ pts and 10+ goals he would be a legit #1.
- Retinalz


#1 D dominate games. They're capable of taking over at both ends of the rink. He doesn't do that at all. He's not as good as Hamhuis was and I don't even think it's that close.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:13 PM ET
I think you will see more point production from Tanev this year
- VANTEL


I could see it if he plays with the twins a lot ...maybe if bo has a breakout year and tanev gets a lot of secondary assists
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 17 @ 9:14 PM ET
Hamhuis?
- VANTEL

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 17 @ 9:14 PM ET
#1 D dominate games. They're capable of taking over at both ends of the rink. He doesn't do that at all. He's not as good as Hamhuis was and I don't even think it's that close.
- golfingsince

Read my post before you respond. I said IF he out up those offensive numbers. He already dominates in our end of the rink. This is why he is a legit #2. He just needs the offense to be considered a #1.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 17 @ 9:17 PM ET
You can't compare Seth Jones to tanev ...it's apples and oranges
- Redmile247

Yes you can. Jones obviously has higher potential as a player and will hit it. But right now his defensive play is no better.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:20 PM ET
Read my post before you respond. I said IF he out up those offensive numbers. He already dominates in our end of the rink. This is why he is a legit #2. He just needs the offense to be considered a #1.
- Retinalz


I read your post.

He doesn't dominate at our end of the rink. He was the best defender on one of if not the worst D corps in the league last season. I also don't think his body and playing style allow him to eat the big minutes that a #1D does.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:21 PM ET
The only players that dominate in our end of the rink are opposing forwards.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 17 @ 9:23 PM ET
I read your post.

He doesn't dominate at our end of the rink. He was the best defender on one of if not the worst D corps in the league last season. I also don't think his body and playing style allow him to eat the big minutes that a #1D does.

- golfingsince

He is a top 10 defenseman in our end of the ice. You underestimate him too much. And no I don't overestimate him at all. His teammates singled him out as an MVP at the world's.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:26 PM ET
He is a top 10 defenseman in our end of the ice. You underestimate him too much. And no I don't overestimate him at all. His teammates singled him out as an MVP at the world's.
- Retinalz


If Bonino was Canadian, he would have gotten that mvp
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:27 PM ET
He is a top 10 defenseman in our end of the ice. You underestimate him too much. And no I don't overestimate him at all. His teammates singled him out as an MVP at the world's.
- Retinalz


They called him an unsung hero. That's not quite an MVP award.

IF Chris Higgins could score 40 points he'd be a top 6 forward.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 17 @ 9:34 PM ET
Do you all feel GG is a good hire, and that he is much better prepared to lead after his AC stint? I don't know a lot about him, seemed like an off the board hire though.
- FLflames34

He's a good hire. Good with youth…good work ethic and a fit to where Burke and Treliving want you to go…a players guy... Sucks to lose him in Van.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 17 @ 9:57 PM ET
just think what you could have got for him
- Redmile247

Easy now Redmile you are ok…don't become a goof like Ronpielpep
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:58 PM ET
Someone video'd Booner

https://twitter.com/HoldM...status/738326796823891968
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 17 @ 9:59 PM ET
Someone video'd Booner

https://twitter.com/HoldM...status/738326796823891968

- VANTEL

lol
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:03 PM ET
He is a top 10 defenseman in our end of the ice. You underestimate him too much. And no I don't overestimate him at all. His teammates singled him out as an MVP at the world's.
- Retinalz


Tanev is good no doubt but he's a second pairing defenseman currently. I do think he could become more and hopefully his shooting coach can give him enough direction this offseason to do so. It's not that we are under valuing him as much as we are just being more realistic in terms of his performance over the years. He prevents shots very well and has a calm cool edge about him that allows him to make solid passes out of the zone. If he reached 20 to 30 points next year then maybe you have a case but that is yet to be seen.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 10:04 PM ET
Nine Stanley Cup rioters have to pay back ICBC for damages to vehicles in the riot.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 17 @ 10:07 PM ET
Easy now Redmile you are ok…don't become a goof like Ronpielpep
- LordHumungous


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 10:26 PM ET
So Benning said they want a 20 -30 goal scorer from UFA and a two way forward. Sounds like they are ok with the D.

He also said they will draft an 18 year old and see in camp if he is ready or send him back for another year of JR. He gave high praises to Tkachuk

He almost slipped but I got the impression initiat contact had been made already , but we know that is illegal right
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:42 PM ET
You can't compare Seth Jones to tanev ...it's apples and oranges
- Redmile247


You are ok and not a troll but you are out to lunch on Duchesne value
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